Review: Detailer’s System 3000 Deluxe Pad Washer

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If you’re in the market for a pad washer system the Detailer’s System 3000 Deluxe Pad Washer by Lake Country is one of the best. It’s simple to setup and start using right out of the box. When setting up the pad washer I noticed everything felt very durable and was built to last. I was really impressed with how solid and sturdy the thin lids felt. I would have expected them to be more flimsy for being such large pieces of thin plastic.

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A great feature of this pad washer is that it offers three different operating modes for different cleaning preferences.

Filtered: the cleaning solution is contiguously recycled through a replaceable filter.

Captured: the catch basin retains any dirty solution.

Standard: remove the catch basin and use full pail until solution needs to be replaced.

In addition to three different operating modes it cleans foam, wool and microfiber pads. I really think this pad washer will set a new standard for pad washers after a few tweaks, which I’ll talk about a little later.


Usage:

One of the first things I noticed when using the pad washer was how powerful the pump was. I was using a Lake Country Hybrid Polishing Pad and around the outside of the pad water was shooting up through the foam where there wasn’t Velcro. It only takes a couple pumps to fully saturate a 6.5 in pad. The pad wash plate is designed great to match and clean all different types of pads.

I’ve washed several different types of pads with this pad washer along with cleaning spent compounds, polishes, waxes and sealants and they all cleaned up effortlessly. Due to having such a powerful pump it allows water to be injected deep into the pad (and sometimes through it) to remove all spent product for a perfectly clean pad. This allows pads to be used longer while detailing and does not hinder the performance like having spent residue and removed paint on your pads. Also, the wash plate was gentle enough not to damage finishing pads, but still tough enough to remove compound from dense, stiff cutting pads.

I have only used this product on the captured setting and I can already tell it’s going to be my favorite. It allows dirty solution to be stored away from your clean solution. It’s very easy to clean the catch basin; you just simply rinse it out with a hose and wipe it down with a microfiber towel after use. Having the dirty and clean solutions separate allows you to minimize solution waste and cross contamination, you only use as much solution as you need to clean your pad and then it’s discarded. There is no cross contamination and no guessing when your solution needs to be replaced. To give you an idea just how long 1.6 gallons of solution lasts, I was able to completely polish an SUV and Truck back to back without having to add more clean solution or empty out the catch basin and I still had plenty of clean solution left in the bottom of the bucket.

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The catch basin is blue, the bottom is the clean solution area, and the white tube is the pump inlet.

I plan to test out Detailer’s Polishing Pad Rejuvenator next as it claims it can be used for up to a week, cleaning pads everyday without being replaced. You would use 1.5 scoops of DP Polishing Pad Rejuvenator with the System 3000 setup in standard mode. So theoretically one container of DP Rejuvenator should last about 10 weeks of cleaning pads everyday. I’m going to guess that the solution would last even longer if used in the filter mode, so that might be another good option.

To dry your pad after washing you simply let it free spin inside the unit. While this sounds great in theory there is one problem, cleaning solution shoots out of the gap between the top of the bucket and the bottom of the lids; it makes a mess.

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The lid doesn’t sit tight against the rim of the bucket. This is the maximum amount of play in the lid when it’s in the locked position. It would help if there was a vertical shield around the edge of the lid to keep the solution from shooting out or some type of gasket.

Another downside to this pad washer in general is it does not really work with the Flex 3401, which is frustrating because it’s my go to DA polisher. It does work great with smaller spindle or gear housings. I do not own a Rupes DA but from pictures of the machine it looks like it wouldn’t work well either. The opening after closing the lids does not allow enough space for the gear housing to fit, it’s not even really close. I tried to use the unit with the lids semi-closed but solution goes everywhere and if you are not extremely careful the sharp edges on the inside of the lid destroys your pads.

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Fits great before putting a pad on the backing plate.

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Once the pad is on, it no longer closes.

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Closer look. This is all the further the lid will close.

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The damage to the inside of the lid from trying to use the flex. That edge is what will eat and tear up the sides of your pads.

The pad washer does work great with my Porter Cable DA and likewise with the Griots Garage DA. Autogeek’s description of the product claims: “The System 3000 Deluxe Pad Washer works with all polishers – random orbital, DA and rotary” and while in some sense it will work with those three types of polishers, it does not work specifically with all polishers. A simple fix to this problem is to create another lid that works with the larger polisher housings, but without the larger lid it’s useless with my favorite and most used machine.

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Porter Cable DA fits and works like a charm.

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Another view.


Final Thoughts:

The Detailer’s System 3000 Deluxe Pad Washer by Lake Country is an almost perfect pad washer. It’s lightweight and easy to move while working around a vehicle and phenomenally cleans all types of pads and removes all types of products. The deal breaker for me is not being able to use it with the Flex 3401. If another lid option were offered in the future it would be the perfect pad washer.
 
You put together a really thorough review! Do you have any pics of the pad washer taken apart? The top piece that you wash the pad on looks easier to clean than the grit guard in the GG pad washer. I have the same trouble cleaning pads on the Flex on the Grit guard pad washer as well. I put my pads on my GG6 to clean them. Looks like a nice set up, if I didn't buy a GG pad washer a few months ago I would think about picking this up.
 
Beautifully well done review! Thanks for putting it together for all to see.

Would it be possible to trim out the inner circle of lid to allow use of the 3401?
 
Great ideas for improvements.

I sent your review on to Lake Country, just in case they have not seen it already.
 
You put together a really thorough review! Do you have any pics of the pad washer taken apart? The top piece that you wash the pad on looks easier to clean than the grit guard in the GG pad washer. I have the same trouble cleaning pads on the Flex on the Grit guard pad washer as well. I put my pads on my GG6 to clean them. Looks like a nice set up, if I didn't buy a GG pad washer a few months ago I would think about picking this up.

I'll take some for you later today.

There are only a couple parts to do.

In the second pictures, the darkest blue section holds the pump and wash plate (it comes assembled). The next lighter blue piece of the catch basin, which is just a smaller bucket with holes you can plug depending on the cleaning setting you choose, and the last item is just a bucket that everything sits into.

Beautifully well done review! Thanks for putting it together for all to see.

Would it be possible to trim out the inner circle of lid to allow use of the 3401?

I don't think you can trim it, but you could use a dremel tool to sand it out, but I wouldn't want to alter the product and mess up a part I couldn't easily order.
Great ideas for improvements.

I sent your review on to Lake Country, just in case they have not seen it already.

Thanks! Hopefully they design another lid.
 
Were there ever any changes made to this device or usage suggestions to alleviate the difficulties the reviewer pointed out? (cleaning solution flung out sides, Flex not fitting into pad cleaner)
 
Seems a slight cut would open it more. :dblthumb2:

Yes perhaps. Seems odd that a very popular polisher that Lake Country makes a backing plate system and specific pads for doesn't fit into a pad washer made by Lake Country.

And opening the hole doesn't do anything for the splashing out the sides issue. This thing costs $160 and I'd rather not have to modify the lid to fit a Flex nor worry about soaking my shoes with cleaning solution every time I use it.
 
I found they have a video of this system on the Lake Country site. They show both a Flex 3401 and a Rupes being used with it...except without the lid closed.
 
Well, I bought one of these the other week during one of the sales (I actually bought it at ACC because it was a little cheaper there).

The feature that intrigued me about this washer was the captured effluent pan. The other pad washers comingle the wash water, so the more pads you clean, the dirtier it gets, and you might be cleaning a relatively clean pad with some really dirty solution, that isn't going to get rinsed out (spin dry only). Also I'm going to use a pad washer infrequently, so if I mix up a bucket and dirty it up with pad gunk from only a few pads, it's going to sit and go rancid and I'm going to waste the whole bucket of solution.

So, my "review".

1. I didn't really have the problem the OP did with the Flex. I was able to simply push the machine further into the pad washer, compressing the spring-loaded wash plate to fit the Flex in. It was a little tricky doing the spin dry, but I didn't have the problem the OP did (although now that I think of it, I did spin dry some of the Flex pads in the sink). Since I had a variety of pads to clean and different machines set up for each pad size, I had a Flex, PC7424, and GG 3" all in the washer.

2. If you notice, the wash plate has kind of a mushroom shape, I found with larger pads (I have some old 7" pads that I use on my Flex) that it seemed the sloping edges of the plate didn't allow for as good cleaning at the outside diameter of the pads as it did closer to the center (plus there is the solution nozzle in the center which is a lot rougher than the stainless plate--of course on a typical DA the center of the pad can get the most product residue).

3. Cleaning solution comes out the sides of the top. I'm not sure I noticed any "spray" but liquid pours through the opening especially when you are spin drying. Then when you open the covers to get the machine out, it drips all over. Use this machine outside, or, since I was using it in my basement, I put the washer in large basin...although I was still worried about spray.

4. The captured effluent pan works as advertised, and you can remove it and clean it without disturbing (too much) the clean fluid below. It's a little bit of a nuisance because the pump drips when you pull the top works out. Make sure you put the little seal washers that they give you under the screw-in plugs, and also on the pump where it goes thru the drain pan--these aren't mentioned in the instructions.

4a. The downside with using the captured pan is that it limits your clean solution to 1.6 gallons (per instructions), because there just isn't room in the bucket for more than that with the clean tank, dirty tank, wash plate, cover, etc. I mixed up 2 gallons of solution, and I may have gotten a little more than 1.6 gallons in, but not much. If you overfill the bottom, it comes up into the effluent pan when you are putting the washer together.

5. Because I was paranoid about having Snappy Clean residue in my pads, I threw them in the washing machine after. I did notice a few Velcro problems after getting the pads dry; I don't know if it was just coincidence, or a result of the pad washer (which I used hot water in--which probably was not the best idea).

My conclusions? This washer is worth something to the average enthusiast detailer...I'm not sure it's worth what it costs, but it is worth something--I'm not unhappy I bought it. Hopefully the unused solution in the bottom will stay fresh until the next time I use it.
 
Thank you very much for the feedback. I appreciate it, and will pass the information along as well.

During testing of pad washing methods, I have noted that I have had more failure when using hot water. The water at my house gets pretty hot, but if I wash with warm water, I have very few Velcro loop issues.
 
oooo I like that!
I don't like my GGPW, it works but I like this one better because the filter, pump in the middle and the wash Plate.
I'll get one soon.
thanks for the write up
 
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