Review: Pinnacle Black Label Paint Coating v 2.0

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This is to be the beginning of a long term review of the above mentioned paint coating. This is just the start of the review, as I have just installed the paint coating 2 weeks ago. So, in this part, there is no beading shots or no long term results. Just my initial thoughts.

I have been turned off to coatings in general. I applied OC 2.0 shortly after it came out. It was OK, but quite frankly fell a little short of the hype IMHO. But, at the time - it was just about all that was available. Since then, I have pretty much stuck to sealants and waxes. Remember all those threads of people reporting OC failure and user error?

Well, this Pinnacle stuff seemed a bit too good to be true. You get multiple applications per purchase - so if something gets screwed up the first time - you still have a lot left to reapply. Users also report a very high ease of application. Cost seems fairly reasonable ($80 for multiple applications) - assuming it lives up to the hype.

So, since my vehicle is aging and I have since lost the desire to constantly screw around with the latest and greatest detailing products, the idea of something that is "set it and forget it" kind of appealed to me. I`m not chasing after the last 1% of gloss and shine on this vehicle, but something that will last a long time and possibly make my life a bit easier.

To me, the beauty of high quality wax/sealant is the ease of simply renewing them. On my BMW, I might drive 300 miles before washing it and applying another coat of wax (currently Souverän). These products are generally fast/easy to apply, give excellent results, and the disappointment/screw up factor is extremely low. You also get many applications per purchase. The screw up factor for some paint coatings can be significantly higher, many are not easily renewable (layer-able), and you may only get one application per purchase. However, Pinnacle's coating ticked most of the wax/sealant boxes for me - so I thought I`d give it a go.

Anyway, Pinnacle recommends using their Black Label surface cleansing polish as a paint prep. I was not going to let anything screw up this test or anyone claim user error, so that is exactly what I did. I had some on hand from Synergy wax.

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Since I was spending the time and money to do this, I made sure I did it correctly. I started by washing the vehicle with ONR after a pressure wash. Then I used Dodo Juice`s Ferro Lube & a clay block to decon the surface. After that, I wiped the vehicle down with MULTIPLE products that are known to remove waxes/polymers/sealants from the painted surface:

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However, this was PRIOR to polishing with Pinnacle`s Black Label Surface Prep polish. The absolute last thing to touch the paint prior to the coating was the surface prep polish - no other product or chemical.

I even hand polished edges and areas I couldn`t 100% be sure were wax free by hand with the prep polish and a hand pad set up:

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Believe me when I tell you this, by the time I was done - there were no waxes / sealants / polymers / etc... on the paint. None. The application of the coating was done with 2 brand new Lake Country coating applicators (recommended by Pinnacle) and a new towel. I wore new rubber gloves during the application as to not get oils from my skin on the pain if I touched it accidentally.

My thoughts on the application:

1. It is very easy to apply and hard to screw it up. If you are afraid to try a coating, but want to, I`d recommend this one.

2. The directions tell you to spray it on the paint, spread it, and immediately wipe. I found it much better to spray it on the applicator - 1 or 2 sprays only - at a time - no more. Then, spread it from the applicator. It took about 6 sprays to do a door on my Pathfinder. Immediately wipe is right on.

3. The product reeks of IPA. There is definitely alcohol being used as a solvent here.

4. No complaints about the packaging, sprayer, or bottle - all worked fine.

5. It took about 20% of the bottle to coat the paint on my rather large SUV.

6. Stuff feels pretty slick when you apply it, the applicator gets a bit grabby when it`s time to apply more.

7. Product does look pretty glossy on paint. You would be hard pressed to tell the difference between this and a high quality wax.

8. Once the prep work is done, you can coat a large vehicle in about a half hour

9. I believe Pinnacle says you can layer it - more on that below.

10. If product holds up - it`s a winner - so far, nothing has turned me off about it.

11. As long as you wipe it off immediately, you can run a towel over it with no pressure and it will level easily.

I actually applied this paint coating about 2 weeks ago. Today, I washed and wiped down the vehicle with Mckee`s new N-914 rinseless wash and applied ANOTHER layer of the coating. This rinseless wash leaves nothing behind, so it`s OK just go straight to a coating assuming there is no waxes/sealants/polymers on the paint to begin with.

So, the test begins. Two coats of the coating on what I believe to be a perfectly prepped vehicle. When in doubt, I used more coating product - opposed to less. After 2 coats - there was definitely sufficient amount of the coating applied. This vehicle will be maintained 100% with McKees N-914 rinseless wash - so there will be no polymers / waxes / or "coating clogging" interfering with my results. No spray waxes or similar will touch the paint. As recommended, car sat in garage 12 hours after application of each coating layer - as not to get wet.

Some after shots:

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So, how will it hold up in the long term? You have to stay tuned to find out. I will periodically report back with my thoughts and pics.


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Looks great so far. I'm really looking forward to seeing how this holds up for you. I went into the world of coating for similar reasons. I like washing my vehicles and keeping them clean, but time constraints and other parts of my life keep me from truly enjoying polishing and waxing. Anything that will keep the car looking great longer and makes it easier to clean is a winner in my book.

Any particular reason you went with PBL and not McKee's 37? I'm pretty happy with the McKee's product, but view the PBL as a "step up" in durability and possibly looks. You're observations will be really helpful in determining if that perception is true.
 
Thanks a lot for the review. Please keep us posted with your thoughts.
 
That's is definitely the cleanest 04' pathfinder on the road. I had one that recently got totaled. Believe me those cars are prone to rust and are difficult to protect. you've been doing a great job with yours.
 
Havn't try paint coating V.2 yet, but my experience with PBL Surface coating is very bad, it's can't hold up even 2 months of beading or protection. This make me very afraid for moving to V.2
 
Cool test! I've used PBL V2 twice before and absolutely love it so far! Not a big fan of the prep polish, but love the coating
 
That's is definitely the cleanest 04' pathfinder on the road. I had one that recently got totaled. Believe me those cars are prone to rust and are difficult to protect. you've been doing a great job with yours.

Thanks. It's actually an '01 - built in 2000. I had the rust fixed on the rear quarters - but now it's coming back; bubbling under the rocker panels by the crimp welds.

I'm actually kicking around keeping it and getting the rust fixed again once it becomes noticeable. It's extremely reliable and excellent in bad weather. It does use a lot of gas though. Parts are cheap and it's not super difficult to wrench on.

If I decide to get rid of it - I'll prolly get a 2015 Xterra.


Havn't try paint coating V.2 yet, but my experience with PBL Surface coating is very bad, it's can't hold up even 2 months of beading or protection. This make me very afraid for moving to V.2

Well, that is what we are going to find out - if v2 is legit or not. I tried to remove all variables that could make my conclusions ambiguous, by following prep to the letter and not letting ANY substance touch the paint that can cause beading....

We will see.

So far it's easy to work with & looks very good.

Looks great so far. I'm really looking forward to seeing how this holds up for you. I went into the world of coating for similar reasons. I like washing my vehicles and keeping them clean, but time constraints and other parts of my life keep me from truly enjoying polishing and waxing. Anything that will keep the car looking great longer and makes it easier to clean is a winner in my book.

Any particular reason you went with PBL and not McKee's 37? I'm pretty happy with the McKee's product, but view the PBL as a "step up" in durability and possibly looks. You're observations will be really helpful in determining if that perception is true.

I considered McKees as well. I choose Pinnacle mainly because it has longer claimed longevity, I already had the exact prep polish on hand, and I have Synergy and was impressed by it (same product line).

Also, it costs more, so I am assuming it has more "durable stuff" in it. But, who really knows?
 
Great review. I look forward to your updates. I have not used a coating yet, but may try the PBL after your long term reports.
 
1st Update.

It's been 4 weeks since first layer & 2 weeks since second. No snow here - but it rained a few times. Decided to wash this vehicle tonight using McKees 37 N914 as a waterless wash. Initially I planned on using it as a rinseless - but the car seemed to stay quite clean. Could be the coating?

So, I took an iPhone video of me pressure washing the dirty car (2 weeks since wash and 2nd layer of coating). IMHO, this is the best way to see the health of your LSP. Pouring water bottles over the hood is a waste of time. I think pressure washing a dirty car is the best measure of an LSP.

Anyway, watch the video:

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So, my feeling is - I'm impressed. The beading is really top notch. I had a bird crap like a 4" crap on the hood on the way to work. I rained while I was at work - and it all disappeared. This crap was huge - literally about the size of a 3" polishing pad. It's just gone via rain.

This is a pic of the hood I took. Remember, this is not clean paint.

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So, the question at this point is - how will the coating hold up? Initial results are very good.
 
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