Review: Zymol Glasur (+++pics)

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I've been posting the steps I've been following to change up my LSP. FIrst I foamed/washed with Sonax Gloss Shampoo. Then I cleaned the paint with Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Cleaner. After that I laid down 2 coats of Blackfire
Wet Diamond Sealant. I dressed the tires with Poor Boys Bold and Bright Dressing.

Finally, I'm at the last step. Topping the BFWD with Zymol Glasur. I choose this product because I wanted something that was good on dark colors and was a pure carnuba wax. If I recall correctly, Glasur is 56% carnuba. Also, Zymol Glasur seems to me about as pure of a carnuba wax as you can get. They even list the ingredients in it on their website. The fact that Zymol is comfortable enough to list the ingredients intrigued me even more. I mean, who really knows what is in most waxes? I wonder how many carnuba waxes rely on some kind of polymers or silicone type ingredients to get their shine and just use carnuba as a selling tool. As, any wax with any amount of carnuba could be marketed as a carnuba wax. Also, a lot of people say the percentage of carnuba means nothing. But, what there not saying is what takes the place of the carnuba in a lower percentage carnuba product.

The ingredients in Glasur are as follows:

Ingredients: Yellow Carnauba Wax 56% (100% yellow by volume), Montan Oil, Coconut Oil, Banana Oil, Cinnamon Oil, Propolis (derived from bees), Cetyl Esters, Cetyl Cocoamide (derived from coconut oil) and FD&C Yellow #5.

I did some research on some of the ingredients I wasn't exactly sure of and came up with this:

Cetyl Esters NF is a wax mixture consisting primarily of esters of saturated fatty alcohols and saturated fatty acids. It can be used in emulsions and anhydrous products to impart a lubricous feel and soft gloss to these formulations. It can also increase viscosity and improve stability. Cetyl Esters are often used in cosmetics and face creams.

ATTRIBUTES OF CETYL ESTERS:

Improved Stability
Rheology Modification
Cushiony Glide
Increased Viscosity
Velvet Touch
Vegan alternative to Beeswax


Cocamide DEA, or cocamide diethanolamine, is a diethanolamide made by reacting the mixture of fatty acids from coconut oils with diethanolamine.[1] It is a viscous liquid and is used as a foaming agent in bath products like shampoos and hand soaps, and in cosmetics as an emulsifying agent.


Montan oil is used to soften the Carnauba. Some other waxes use petro-chemicals which may soften paint in the long run. Montan oil is a natural solvent derived from the sap of the
German Coal Black Evergreen tree. The oil is removed from the sap, spun
and distilled to make the carnuba spreadable. Because it is highly spun
(very thin) it allows the carnuba to enter and fill in microscopic scratches on
the painted surface yet will not react with the paint itself.


Propolis is the "enzyme" often mentioned when talking about Zymol waxes. Propolis is derived from the thorax of bees, is the living enzyme culture. Its function is to assure the carnuba does not “bond” in the
container. Only when oxygen (air) is introduced during application does the
enzyme emollient (wax) actually become “wax” and start bonding to the car


Banana and coconut oils

These are natural oils provide the necessary lubrication for spreading Wax and serve as a moisture barrier on the paint preventing the paint from drying out and oxidizing. The oils also contribute to depth of shine by providing the fatty esters during the wax cure time.


I labored over this purchase for a while. Not because of the cost per se, although the Glasur was a little over a hundred dollars a pot, so it's not cheap. But, there are so many excellent waxes in this price range it's just hard to make a decision. My first choice was Soverän. However, I read so many reviews saying Soverän was excellent, but the durability was lacking. I even read a few that said it started to fade after a few days. I still want to try Soverän, but at this point I wanted something with a bit more durability.
However, I did want to try a PBMG wax, as I never tried one before and most get excellent feedback. I considered Midnight Sun, but due to the recent sale I got a great deal on a pot of Fuzion that is in route now. I plan on trying the Fuzion on top of OptiCoat on my other vehicle, and possibly applying it the fall to this vehicle. So, Fuzion was now going to be my AutoGeek wax, I also wanted a wax that was completely different than Fuzion to later compare the two. The fact that the Glasur listed all of its ingredients and they were all pretty much sort of "natural" (compared to other products) kind of intrigued me into trying this product.
Previously, on this BSM BMW I tried: Purple Haze Pro, P21S 100%, Natty's Red, Lusso Oro, and various sealants. All of them were good or excellent, but I wanted to try something different. None of them wowed me into thinking "I found the best wax for me". I decided on Glasur because I read it has a great look, good durability, and sheets water like no other carnuba.
I have heard a lot of things about Zymol waxes. I've heard they are too expensive and hard to work with. I've heard they are over rated and over priced. On the other hand, there were several very positive reviews on Glasur. Everything I read about Glasur seemed positive. Another thing that led me to try this product was I was able to find a retailer that stocks the whole Zymol line locally. Being impulsive and wanting to try stuff NOW, this meant I could go for a drive and buy it, and also later sample other products from the line as well.
Zymol's "image" or marketing strategy seems like like they are trying to go after the upscale market. This could be why a lot of haters bash their products. As there are a lot of people who would trash any company selling waxes that cost up to several thousand dollars saying their $40.00 wax is better and those waxes are rip offs and for idiots who have too much money for they're own good. After using Glasur, I can say its the best wax Ive tried yet, and was worth every penny in my opinion. It's different than other carnubas I've tried. It sets itself apart in a good way. For some reason I expected it to be a hard wax. However, it was just the opposite. It was extremely soft and oily. Softer than Dodo's soft waxes. It's so soft, I wouldn't hardly even consider it a solid. It's sort of like a stick of butter you stuck in the microwave and took out right before it turned liquid. It smells great, almost exactly like Lusso Oro, a pineapple-banana like smell.

A look at Glasur:

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Right when I was getting started, disaster struck. I was gently unscrewing the lid and dropped the whole pot of wax on the concrete with no lid. The threads on the lid are almost nil, and the lid screws off in like one turn. Luckily, the container hit bottom first. It cracked the container, but didn't damage the wax. Also, you can see the o ring that seals the container from air. The container looks nice, and is supposedly designed to keep a certain amount of required air on top of the product. The container is not the easiest to use however, as getting the lid threaded takes a minute and contributed to me dropping the whole thing on the ground.

Container cracked:

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A little of this wax goes a long way. A very very little bit. I choose not to apply it with my bare hands, as Zymol recommends. I have tried this before and find it difficult to lay down a thin coat of wax this way. Also I find when you use bare hands, pieces of wax tend to glob up between your fingers and underneath your finger nails. But, because this wax is so oily and liquid like (think hand cream), it may work well with this product.
When you initially swipe the applicator(I used a P21S applicator) to prime it when new, you don't use any pressure at all. The wax stays in a spreadable liquid oily form almost a long as you rub it on the panel. You can start off at the front of a panel, do the whole thing, and go back where you started and if you rub around the wax will turn back into to a liquid like state. Too me it spread like an expensive wax should, as it just seemed more spreadable than others and very workable. It almost seemed the applicator never had to be re-loaded. Instead of drying out, it would just go on thinner and thinner. I've never worked with a wax like this, and it's a true luxury to apply and easy to get used to. If you get some on your hands it does melt. The wax isn't grainy at all like some other carnuba waxes that are above 50%. It's almost the texture of a thick milkshake.
Removal is also pretty easy. I applied it to a panel, wait until it "hazed" and wiped it off. I found if you waited too long it was a bit harder to remove, but not much. I found it no harder to remove than Poor Boys Natty's Red. I'm not sure how Zymol got a reputation of being hard to remove, but I found it pretty easy. However, it's a bit of an optical illusion. Your spreading this wax that's in a liquid oily form and you would expect it to smear a little and wipe right off. But it removes like other carnuba waxes that are more pasty.
I went over each panel 2 to 3 times in this method. The wax didn't streak, sweat, haze, or ghost like other waxes I've used on black. It's a first class product. Later on a sprayed the car down with ice cold DI water and it seemed to make it even clearer looking. I feel it was well worth the money and cut above the other waxes I've tried on this car. I'm not sure why AG doesn't carry Zymol, but if they did I would buy it. Since all you have to do to "re-load" the applicator with wax to do a panel is to touch (not swipe) the applicator to the wax, it seems like this tub should last forever.
Anyway, I liked it and would like to try Zymols Concours, Destiny, or Atlantique. These waxes are much more expensive, the later costing over a thousand dollars a tub I believe. I can't see spending that much for a wax. But they do make a sampler with at least some of these products. Now, I'm looking forward to try other products from Zymol. This wax is by far my new favorite.

Anyway, here are some iPhone 4 (my only camera) pictures of the finished product:

In the garage:

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Outside:

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This is a very thorough review. Thank you. I like the facts that they use more natural ingredients. I do have a question though, is OTC zymol have the same quality that the higher end zymol products do??


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Car turned out looking great. Nice review of the Zymol too. I can smell it from here. LOL!!
 
Dodo Juice Supernatural, Wolfgang Fuzion, P21S 100%, Migliore Primo, and Pinnacle Souveran Paste would be worthy substitutes for those looking for toppers actually sold at Autogeek.
 
The analysis of ingredients is very informative. I always like to see what ingredients do and how they react in a product.

It would be very interesting to see how you like Soveregn. I like Zymol products but I have yet to see a wax they finishes up as liquid looking as Sovergn on black.
 
This is a very thorough review. Thank you. I like the facts that they use more natural ingredients. I do have a question though, is OTC zymol have the same quality that the higher end zymol products do??


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I did a little research on that also. The blue OTC Zymol Cleaner wax only has 1.5% carnuba. They call this line "introductory". Some say it's made or has been made by Turtle Wax. That I don't know. It's probably like most things, you get what you pay for. Im guessing it's OK for an OTC wax... Probably not as good as Meg's though.

Also, I did buy Fuzion. It's in the mail. One day I will compare the two. I didn't want to give the impression I'm try to steer anyone away from AGs products. I did a review yesterday on 2 Blackfire products and they were awesome and will review Fuzion shortly after it gets here, which I'm sure is awesome as well. Just wanted to try something different that's not talked about here much. I'm sure after the next AG sale I'll have Soverän as well. So far all the Blackfire, Pinnacle, and Wolfagang products I've tried are first rate also. I especially like the Wolfgang polished and BFWD sealant.
 
I did a little research on that also. The blue OTC Zymol Cleaner wax only has 1.5% carnuba. They call this line "introductory". Some say it's made or has been made by Turtle Wax. That I don't know. It's probably like most things, you get what you pay for. Im guessing it's OK for an OTC wax... Probably not as good as Meg's though.
Also, I did buy Fuzion. It's in the mail. One day I will compare the two.


Definetly made by Turtle Wax... their address is even on the bottle.. nothing really wrong with that as it is designed for a different market, the upscale turtle wax crowd.
 
I did a little research on that also. The blue OTC Zymol Cleaner wax only has 1.5% carnuba. They call this line "introductory". Some say it's made or has been made by Turtle Wax. That I don't know. It's probably like most things, you get what you pay for. Im guessing it's OK for an OTC wax... Probably not as good as Meg's though.
Also, I did buy Fuzion. It's in the mail. One day I will compare the two.

Ah, I see, I figured it was something like that, when it comes to OTC products I do believe the best Is Meguiars, but I prefer to use high end products.


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Sweet ride! Great finish and write up. What freaks me out is where are all the broken

shards of glass/plastic to the wax jar?
 
Banana oils

These are natural oils provide the necessary lubrication for spreading Wax and serve as a moisture barrier on the paint preventing the paint from drying out and oxidizing. The oils also contribute to depth of shine by providing the fatty esters during the wax cure time.

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Thanks for sharing your time and efforts! (Still looking for this product in the AG-Store, though :D)

The analysis of ingredients is very informative. I always like to see what ingredients do and how they react in a product.

-Too bad...that Zymol is one of those car-care products "companies" that still spreads that BS about: Banana Oil...even that these banana oils are "natural"!!

"Banana oil"...Amyl Acetate (C7H14O2)...made from sodium-salts of acetic acid; and, the oils reclaimed from the fermenting-process of grains/potatoes.

"Nary a banana in sight"!!


Shame on Zymol, and their ilk, I say.



Bob
 
Thanks for sharing your time and efforts! (Still looking for this product in the AG-Store, though :D)



-Too bad...that Zymol is one of those car-care products "companies" that still spreads that BS about: Banana Oil...even that these banana oils are "natural"!!

"Banana oil"...Amyl Acetate (C7H14O2)...made from sodium-salts of acetic acid; and, the oils reclaimed from the fermenting-process of grains/potatoes.

"Nary a banana in sight"!!


Shame on Zymol, and their ilk, I say.


Bob


Your kidding right? NO banana? That is bullshit.. I call a foul !
 
Your kidding right? NO banana? That is bullshit.. I call a foul !

LOL!!!

My point is:
If a "company" can't be forthright/honest about something as simple as "banana oil"...Why trust them on/about anything else they claim?? :dunno:

Bob
 
LOL!!!

My point is:
If a "company" can't be forthright/honest about something as simple as "banana oil"...Why trust them on/about anything else they claim?? :dunno:

Bob


No argument here !
In fact, because they are not honest in this regard it makes it pretty clear that they are purposefully creating an illusion rather than a great product.
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I will stick with my Soveregn....
 
since when did we start posting products sold from other retailers up for review on autogeek online ? Its very poor etiquette IMO. Not like i'm taking it personal it was an interesting read, but ive seen this OP do this quite a few times. along with the chinese foam cannon thread that directly competes with AG's foam cannon's. again, poor etiquette. Most of us on AGO know where to find reviews on products not sold in the online store. its not like where idiots.
 
its not like where idiots.

Good review OP and like he said he was not trying to say anything negative about AG. He was simply reviewing a product and while this forum is brought to you by AG it is first and foremost a detailing forum. The OP seems to spend quite a bit of money with AG and will continue to do so, so reviewing a product they do not sell does not seem to be in bad taste.
 
"its not like where idiots." I want so much to comment about this, but pass.
 
I love glasur. It will always be in my personal line up of waxes. A few notes. Glasur is 56% carnuba by volume. Therefore it's 56% of the ingredients. So who knows how much carnuba is actually in it. If it was truely 56% carnuba, it would be extremely hard. And as you know glasur is a very soft wax. If you look up dodo juice flat earth wax it explains how companies lie about carnuba content. It's actually kind of funny.
Also I think they use banana extract not oil. They use it for the smell. A lot of companies use that in their waxes.
 
its not like where idiots.

Good review OP and like he said he was not trying to say anything negative about AG. He was simply reviewing a product and while this forum is brought to you by AG it is first and foremost a detailing forum. The OP seems to spend quite a bit of money with AG and will continue to do so, so reviewing a product they do not sell does not seem to be in bad taste.

Not be a forum nazi, but actually, AGO is primarily a marketing and support forum for Autogeek, and the products they sell. It's right there in the Forum Rules:

Autogeek.net is a private closed forum, for the discussion of products that are vendors of Autogeek.net only. This is a private forum and open links to other companies that are not associated with Autogeek.net will be deleted and will result in a permanent ban. No commercial, personal, or any other type of sale that is not associated with Autogeek.net is permitted. Moderators have the right to edit any posts that contain links or other information pertaining to competing companies that are not associated with Autogeek.net.

I appreciate the review the OP made, and agree with his impressions on the product (which I have as well), but reviewing a product that AG does not sell does breach the rules.
 
I honestly don't see the big deal I'm reviewing a Product they dont sell. I've been on other forums where you can talk about anything and everything with no problems. And nothing gets out of hand either. I think if anything it makes me want to buy elsewhere at times. I own a lot of stuff that ag doesn't sell and love it. And if I am extremely happy with the product and it works better then anything I ever used, I feel I should be able to inform people about it. But yet I got in trouble before trying to do so. Its ashame that some people on here have no clue whats out there because they think this is the only place to get stuff. Sometimes I feel like this place is waaaayyy to strict on rules.
 
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