Rinseless Washing

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I have been looking into the idea of using DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss for customers that I see regularly. The main reason, is that if I am performing their weekly/bi-weekly washes, they are likely NOT going "off roading" in their vehicles:), and as such, their vehicles are going to be much cleaner than the average client.

I do plan on using a typical wash concentrate before doing a mini or full detail, but I am more talking about the "in-between" washes. i.e. when I don't plan on waxing, polishing, etc.

Like to hear everyones thoughts. Thanks!

Feed back please
 
You might consider Optimum No Rinse as well. I've done rinseless washes with it a couple of times, and I really like it. Can't comment on the DP, as I've never used it. Either way, they are both $39.99 for a gallon.
 
CieraSL,

What would you say is the "limit" on these types of wash soaps??

In other words, would you use it on ANY car that wasn't "caked" in mud, or would you ONLY use it on a car you could pretty much clean with a Quick Detail Spray???
 
I'd recomend spraying a car down with presure washer just to get some of the dirt off.
 
Well, obviously I wouldn't use it on a car that had lots of dirt and mud on it. In my mind, I would do a rinseless during times when there's too much dirt/dust for a quick detailer but not enough to justify lugging out the hose, soap, mitts, etc. It's just one of those things where you just have to use your best judgment. If you think it's too much dirt for a QD, then just go with the rinseless wash, because there's obviously more lubricity there, which equals less chance of marring the paint. Does that help?
 
That helps. My other reasoning behind this was the "set-up" time. i.e. the hoses, etc.

The reason I was thinking DP Rinseless, is because it is a multi-use product. i.e. you can change the dilution ratio and end up with anything from a QD to a rinseless wash, to a clay lube, etc.

It seems like a pretty nice (and cheap) alternative to stocking different chem's for each one of the above mentioned uses.
 
MobolWerks said:
That helps. My other reasoning behind this was the "set-up" time. i.e. the hoses, etc.

The reason I was thinking DP Rinseless, is because it is a multi-use product. i.e. you can change the dilution ratio and end up with anything from a QD to a rinseless wash, to a clay lube, etc.

It seems like a pretty nice (and cheap) alternative to stocking different chem's for each one of the above mentioned uses.
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People do the same thing with ONR (use it as a rinseless wash, QD, clay lube, etc.). I myself would rather have separate products for each of those categories, but to each his own. Just use what works for you.
 
ONR can be dilluted into a quick detail, clay lube or used as a rinseless wash. If a car has "normal" amount of dirt than ONR works great. I also use it on my mustang when I go to a show to clean it up. I really like it a lot.
 
You could always just pick up 32 oz. of each for now and then later on get a gallon of the one you prefer. Each one is $15.99 for the 32 oz. bottle, and right now, when you get the 32 oz. ONR, you get a free Cobra Detailing Cloth. Just a thought.
 
I'm curious.. Would you guys describe Optimium as a "Cheap" Premium car care company....or as an "Expensive Armor All"

i.e. if you had the choice, would you use Optimum or Wolfgang or DP???

Based on both overall price and overall capability...

Thanks!
 
I have been using the DP for the last four years. When it is too cold out to do a normal wash..
 
MobolWerks said:
I'm curious.. Would you guys describe Optimium as a "Cheap" Premium car care company....or as an "Expensive Armor All"

i.e. if you had the choice, would you use Optimum or Wolfgang or DP???

Based on both overall price and overall capability...

Thanks!
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Optimum takes the cake with this one. The abilities of all three lines are similar. They all produce outstanding results but Optimum has the edge in being cheaper than DP and WG.

As for the original topic, I use rinseless washing for everything besides cars covered in mud and thick layers of dirt(like in gas caps/trunk jams.) The key to using a rinseless product with really dirty car, like heavy road salt, is the presoak. I use a garden sprayer/hand pump and apply the solution in QD dilution to soften up the dirt. As for which is product is better, DP RW&G or ONR, I they both clean effectively the same. It really depends upon whats on sale or if its neither are on sale than scent. ONR has a Mr Clean citrus type of scent while DP has a much nicer bubblegum scent.
 
This post is helpful as I bought 2 gallons of DP the last time it was on BOGO but havent been able to pull the trigger and try it, just seems so wrong to wash and not rinse. Thanks Guys
 
08 300C said:
This post is helpful as I bought 2 gallons of DP the last time it was on BOGO but havent been able to pull the trigger and try it, just seems so wrong to wash and not rinse. Thanks Guys
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I think we all that use had the same feelings. Do yourself a favor and just do it. You will be glad you did. As I use ONR for my winter washing. I have a nomad portable pressure washer that I fill with warm water to rinse . Then proceed with the 2 bucket method . 1 filled with just warm water and the other warm water and ONR.
 
I just tried ONR for the first time last week. I'm not sure I'll be doing many washes in the driveway anymore! Ok, maybe when it's 85F out. I used it on my wife's black car that was caked in winter road grime and salt. 1 bucket with no pre-soak or rinse bucket. I simply followed the directions and it came out perfectly.:xyxthumbs: Actually, I liked the results better than a driveway wash. The only thing I don't like about this type of washing is the lack of attention the underside and wheel wells get. It's not a good idea to let dirt build up in the crevices of the wheel wells. I know some people use garden/weed sprayers for this, but that just isn't enough pressure at all imo. I think a minute or two at a high pressure wash using water only to get the underside and heavy dirt followed by ONR is the perfect setup.
 
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I just tried ONR for the first time last week. I'm not sure I'll be doing many washes in the driveway anymore! Ok, maybe when it's 85F out. I used it on my wife's black car that was caked in winter road grime and salt. 1 bucket with no pre-soak or rinse bucket. I simply followed the directions and it came out perfectly.:xyxthumbs: Actually, I liked the results better than a driveway wash. The only thing I don't like about this type of washing is the lack of attention the underside and wheel wells get. It's not a good idea to let dirt build up in the crevices of the wheel wells. I know some people use garden/weed sprayers for this, but that just isn't enough pressure at all imo. I think a minute or two at a high pressure wash using water only to get the underside and heavy dirt followed by ONR is the perfect setup.
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Thats why I have one of these as this way. I can power rinse the majority of it off . Plus I don't need to drag out the hose.Which if I do that then I mite as well do a conventional wash.

Nomad COR35 Cordless Pressure Washer 18V
 
You will love DP Rinseless Car Wash. It works great and leave the car with a nice shine.
 
I've used both ONR and DP W&G and they both work great for what they are. In a perfect world everyone would have access to free flowing water, warm temperatures, no restrictions on where they can wash their car ect.

Problem is we don't live in a perfect world and not everyone has access to free flowing water, (you know, a garden hose and a water spigot), or has the ability to use free flowing water due to restrictions.

Here's a list of some reasons for using a Rinseless Wash....

Areas with government enforced water restrictions
In today’s reality, there are many Cities and even entire countries with Government Enforced Water Restrictions. In these places it’s against laws and/or regulations to wash your car with a free flowing source of water.

Geographical areas of drought
In some places there may be no official restrictions against water use but the geographical area itself is experiencing severe drought and self-compliance as well as common sense prevents people from using a free flowing water source to wash their vehicle.

People who live in apartments
In some areas if you live in an apartment, a Condo or a Townhouse, there may be no place to wash your car with a free flowing source of clean water or their may be rules against it that you have agreed to comply with.

Washing in cold winter months
In cold weather, extreme low temperatures can make washing a car with a free flowing water source dangerous and difficult at best.


Mobil Detailers
Rinseless Washing enables mobile detailers to get their customer’s car clean without having to depend upon a water source on location or the extra hassle of transporting hundreds of gallons of water in their Truck, Van or on a Trailer. Besides that some areas require mobile detailers to contain and capture their run-off water and this is an added expense, somewhat difficult as well as time consuming.


Anytime you’re traveling
If you doing any long distance traveling, Rinseless Washing enables you to wash your car while in route.


There are limits as to what you should tackle with a rinseless wash and what you should take to a car wash, below are some examples...


This is light dirt accumulation
This is a good example of a vehicle that can be washed using a rinseless wash.

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This is heavy dirt accumulation
This should be taken to a commercial do-it-yourself car wash and have the large chunks sprayed off with a strong blast of water. (Which is what we did after the mud races)

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Thanks everyone! The info and pic's were very helpful. I will certainly keep everyone posted on how well it works, as well as posting some before and afters.

Thanks again!
 
Just a few comments.

1. I have used ONR, DP RW&G and QEW a lot over the last few years. The original DP 4 in1 also was included.
All have done a good job as a rinseless wash. The differences are minor and a case could be made for preferring any one of them over the other.
Personally, which ever one is handiest is what I use. Whichever one is on sale is what I buy. :)

2. Wash, don't scrub. Basically the same gentle washing you would use with a conventional wash works great for me. If it isn't clean after the first pass, go over the area again. Your drying towel should stay pretty clean during the drying process.

3. I have used many different wash media and have had good results with all of them. Here again if it works for a conventional wash, it should be fine for a rinseless wash.

4. I don't pre-soak. If I have caked mud or salt residue, I make a trip to the DIY wash to knock off the heavy accumulation before doing the rinseless wash. It is rarely needed during the Spring, Summer or Fall months, but needed quite often during our Iowa winters.

If my vehicle looked like the mud ball Mike shows, I would make the trip to the DIY wash before doing any kind of wash, conventional or rinseless.

My process is a little different than many, but this doesn't seem like the place to talk about that. Besides, my process might not be right for you.
 
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