"Scuffs" on the paint

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maximus20895

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After using PO 85RD today on my soft honda paint with a blue LC flat pad using speed 5-4.5 there are "scuffs" all over.

They are hard to describe and I will try to take pictures later.

There are probably 10 or so in a square inch and for some reason they are only in certain areas. They are about 16th to 8th inch in length.

I know it wasn't descriptive, but maybe someone has had this probably before.

I will try to take some pics as I know that will really help.

Here is a pic. Sorry for the lack of clarity it was with my phone.

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Thanks
 
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RIDs, random isolated deeper scratches. They appear after removing the majority of the 'spider-web swirls'.
 
It is a 2006 and was painted in 2007 and they are all over. I just don't thing they are since there is not way I can put that many scratches on the paint and since they are all universal in style and length.
 
When you say they are all over...

Do you mean all over the entire car?

Or

Just the area you buffed?

Or

Just the panel that was repainted?


Could they be cracks in the paint? I've seen cracks in usually the hood of vehicles, but not the rest of the car.


Micro-marring or hazing, which are both kinder, gentler names for a type of scratch instilled usually by DA Polishers from the abrasive action of either the abrasives and/or buffing pad or both, is very uniform over the entire surface, not usually just a randomly scattered defect here and there. Randomly scattered defects here and there are RIDS or cracks in the paint.

Both of the below articles are from our Frequently Asked Questions and Hot Topics forum group.

Tracers Tracers - RIDS - Pigtails - Cobweb Swirls - Rotary Buffer Swirls - Holograms - Water Spots - Bird Drooping Etchings - Micro-Marring

RIDS - The Definition of RIDS and the story behind the term...




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If these defects are white now, and before they were invisible, that could be polish residue in the defect that has dried making them more visually apparent then before, this would tend to be cracks.

If they are not white but opaque just easier to see than before then this wold trend towards micro-marring or RIDS


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Here is a new pic I just took. You can see towards the bottom of the picture. Maybe this will give people a better idea. Note, that I have only test on the drivers door panel which was repainted. That is the only area that I went over with 85RD. The rest is 205 which I will eventually go over with 85RD.

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Those "lines" below your finger look like lint coming off your wiping cloth.

These pictures are too huge for anyone to deal with and I have a 24" wide monitor...

Try cropping out the fluff and then just post the important parts...

Thanks...


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Sorry, I will crop it out :) I guess no everyone has a 27"..and maybe that should be a good excuse to tell Max to get you some bigger monitors :)

BTW, I used some IPA on the scratches and it came off for the most part so IDK. Yes, cobalt, it was a new LC 5.5" blue pad.
 
Here is the new one. It is 1000 by something pixels. I'm hoping your resolution is at least that high.

Wow, fast response, umm what do you mean polish dried up?
Here it is:

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maximus20895 said:
Wow, fast response, umm what do you mean polish dried up?
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I mean this that Mike suggested:

Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
If these defects are white now, and before they were invisible, that could be polish residue in the defect that has dried making them more visually apparent then before, this would tend to be cracks.

If they are not white but opaque just easier to see than before then this wold trend towards micro-marring or RIDS


:)
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If an IPA wipedown truly got rid of them. Or possibly microfibers coming off of your MF cloth. What kind of MF cloth do you use?
 
For that I just used a super shine, but I usually use a pakshak or a DI towel.

I think most came off after IPA
 
Okay, so the IPA helps, but every time I go over the paint with 85RD it leaves those "scuffs" all over. Any way to help prevent it from doing that?
 
maximus20895 said:
Okay, so the IPA helps, but every time I go over the paint with 85RD it leaves those "scuffs" all over. Any way to help prevent it from doing that?
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I am at a loss without seeing it in person...is there any way you can take a video of before polishing/during polishing/after(results) of polishing?
 
I think what happened was that was using too much 85RD or not breaking it in enough. How much are you suppose to break this stuff in? I heard until it's clear, but I don't know. It's also a weird purple and an even weird consistency..at least it seems that way.
 
maximus20895 said:
I think what happened was that was using too much 85RD or not breaking it in enough. How much are you suppose to break this stuff in? I heard until it's clear, but I don't know. It's also a weird purple and an even weird consistency..at least it seems that way.
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Haha, yes it is quite a weird color and consistency. I believe your problem, if scratches, may be due to technique. How slow are you moving the polisher? How much pressure are you applying?

If I were you, I would use a "mini kevin brown method" and work the polish in well...and as you keep working it in, gradually lower the pressure until the polish is clear and broken down. I did not have a problem like that on my '09 Cobalt SS paint but it's nowhere near as soft as your Honda paint, I'm sure.

If that doesn't work..you could always consider using a Red CCS pad as opposed to a blue flat pad. It's supposed to be used for sealants/waxes but if you're getting scuffs its an option. Even though I believe you dislike the CCS pads, maybe give it a try!
 
Yea, I think I am breaking it down more so the scuffs are not appearing. I have a red CCS pad that I got free when I bought Powerlock.

My problem now is that I put more swirls into the paint when I washed it that won't come off with a low aggressive product like85RD!
 
Yea, I think that's what it was..kinda sad how I thought they were scratches. It was a new pad so that might be it..just never happened before.
 
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