Searching for the best sealant as stand alone product

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I have a 2019 CWP Subaru and am looking to protect the paint. Car is a daily driver and is parked outside 100% of the time.
I am not ready to drop $1000 + to ceramic coat and am looking to wash, decontaminate it and seal it. Below are some of the sealants I am considering. Have read good reviews on all of them.

- IGL Ecocoat Premier- Significantly more costly than the other options. Limited reviews, but from what is available it seems that this lasts 5-6 months
-Blackfire Hydroseal- Cheapest and easiest to apply out of the group. Has good reviews, but not sure how long it would last.
- Carpro Hydro 2- Also has good reviews and easy application. Not sure of durability as a stand alone product.

If anyone has other opinions I am open to them as well.

Thanks in advance!
 
I would take a look at Sonax PNS, great sealant with great durability.


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Agree with Jayfro for looking at something with greater durability since the car will sit out all the time.

I'd look at things like PNS, Collinite 845 or 476, Menzerna Powerlock, FK1000, or Wolfgang Paint Sealant which will get you six months-ish of protection. These are highly durable sealants and if you hit the car with a spray wax after each wash, you not only boost the gloss but will further extend the life of the sealant.
 
I’ve heard great things about IGL. But if I recall correctly it was a little pricey. I used PNS before and liked the durability, lasted about 6-8months. PNS has higher friction point to it. Other less durable sealants I’ve used were smoother similar to fresh cost of wax but didn’t last as long for example . Any product spray on rinse off like McKee’s 37 hydro blue or Hydro seal is perfect for the wheels though IMO easy to apply and easy to maintain . Best of luck!


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Why would a DIY coating cost $1,000?

You just spent thousands of dollars on a new vehicle that’s going to sit out in the elements 24/7. I would agree that protection should be your primary concern.

Look at the coating “light” products or better yet one of the consumer grade coatings. They really are not that hard to install.

There’s nothing wrong with a good quality sealant, but for a vehicle that’ll be kept outside a ceramic coating is really the way to go.
 
Sonax PNS has been good to me, easy cleaning, my truck was brand new when I applied it. this was after it rained the other night, drove home from work and no water spots on the truck. with that said ive been considering using cancoat when this wears off still haven't decided yet. PNS is soooo easy to apply.



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My personal favorites are Collinite 845 and Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant.
 
PaulMys said:
I believe the OP meant for a professional job.
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I obviously get that.

What I don’t get is why would you dismiss the idea of putting a coating on a car that will sit outside 24/7.

If a sealant is truly what the OP wants then PNS or FK1000P are good choices.
 
BadgerRivFan said:
I obviously get that.

What I don’t get is why would you dismiss the idea of putting a coating on a car that will sit outside 24/7.

If a sealant is truly what the OP wants then PNS or FK1000P are good choices.
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Sorry, must have misread when you said "DIY coating".
 
Outklassed said:
I am also a fan of the Sonax PNS, topped with BSD every other wash.
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Ditto... This is my regimen. It's been a year, but my car is garage kept, but I still don't feel, or see, the need to perform another polish and seal at this time.

With that said, a DIY coating is probably the way to go. I've been looking at CarPro and GTechniq and I am tempted to pull the trigger... but I've got sooooo much BlackFire One Step and PNS left.... I don't want to waste them.
 
Add Cancoat to your research, a few people here are planning to ride out the winter using it.
 
Temple90 said:
...am looking to protect the paint.
Car is a daily driver and is parked
outside 100% of the time.

-IGL Ecocoat Premier
-Blackfire Hydroseal
-Carpro Hydro 2
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•IGL Ecocoat Premier:
AFAIK: it is a Ceramic (Silica) Coating.

-And speaking of Coatings...
Like Michael Vick nowadays:
‘I have no dog in this fight.’

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•Both BLACKFIRE HydroSeal Concentrate,
and CarPro Hydro2 Touchless Silica Sealant,
are “Spray-on, Rinse-off” products.

-As to these type of products...
They’re not very favorable for all-seasons
detailing in my region of the Country


Temple90 said:
If anyone has other opinions
I am open to them as well.
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Due to the ‘conditions’ your vehicle will be
facing, I’ll recommend Finish Kare 1000P.


Bob
 
Thank you for all of the responses! This is why I love this forum.
In regards to why I am not doing a traditional ceramic coating. I have read mixed reviews on all of the coatings in regards to durability. I do not want to pay $1K + for something that will last a year. Additionally I have no indoor space to detail and am worried about the results I will get applying ceramic coat outside.
I think I am sold on Sonax PNS. I have a small bottle of it and will be giving it a try this weekend.

Would you guys recommend anything more than a wash and ironx/tar x?
The paint is so thin that i would like to skip the polishing portion if at all possible.
 
Temple90 said:
Would you guys recommend anything more than a wash and ironx/tar x?
The paint is so thin that i would like to skip the polishing portion if at all possible.
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Wash>IronX>Clay>Sealant

Prepping the paint by removing all contamination is the key to getting the most durability out of your chosen LSP.

It’s not necessary to polish if you’re happy with the condition of your paint (i.e. swirls and scratches). Polishing or using a chemical paint cleaning product would help remove any embedded road grime however. Getting the paint as clean as possible is what the goal should be prior to sealing it with a wax, sealant, or coating.

Why would a 2019 model year car have too thin paint to polish? You certainly don’t have to compound or polish it ever if you don’t want to, but unless you have gone over it with a paint thickness gauge to determine it’s too thin I would be skeptical of your assessment.
 
BadgerRivFan said:
Why would a 2019 model year car have too thin paint to polish? You certainly don’t have to compound or polish it ever if you don’t want to, but unless you have gone over it with a paint thickness gauge to determine it’s too thin I would be skeptical of your assessment.
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Agreed.
 
I dont do a traditional ceramic sealant, never have. I get great 6+ month longevity out of collinite paste wax, using a spray wax after washes. I have the 915, 476, and the 845. 915 looks awesome, but 476 last the longest. It's my winter go to now. I literally have water beading at 6 months or more with collinite products.

Many others on this forum have as well.

I am going to do a winter write up with my car this winter, using only collinite and d156 spray wax (might do a 50/50 on the car)

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You can get a ceramic coating you apply yourself for around50$. I have not use sonax PNS but things I’ve read negative although rare is that it beads awesome but doesn’t self clean too well.


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