So we all say body shops use heaver fillers...

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So my question is, can you give me an example of what kind of glaze they use? I know I posted a thread a while ago asking about a wax that fills in light swirls but what about the glazes body shops use? I ask this because my cars has swirls and light scratches but when I measured the depth there wasn't a whole lot of clear left to comfortably work with. I want a product that will fill in as much of the imperfections as I can. I would also like the product to be wax/ sealant friendly if that's possible.

Can anyone help out here?:xyxthumbs:
 
Autoglym SRP, Megs Swirl Remover, Automagic BC-2 are all pretty good fillers.
 
I don't play with glazes that much but have had great success with megs show car glaze. It really fills in imperfections nicely.
 
Sonus swirl buster polish. Awesome stuff and you can apply multiple coats without damaging any clearcoat. It uses resins not silicone as a filler which means it lasts and won't wash off. Top it with any LSP. It's kind of a unique product.

So much emphasis is on removing swirls. That's cool but no matter how much you remove you will get some level of swirls back again over time no matter how careful you are. Glazes and products like the Sonus product don't get much press but they surely are a solution to a problem. Removing swirls everytime you get some is not practical.
 
I have it in my mind that I'm going to get my clearcoat compounded/polished one last time in the spring and then I'm going to put Opti-Coat on it. From reading here and on other sites I understand that it is basically a harder layer of clear...and that when it gets swirls and scratches in it and you polish it with an abrasive polish you aren't touching your original clear and it'll finish out nicely. I know that's completely different than the title of this thread, but that's what my plan is to deal with the same issue (not alot of clear left) that caused you to start asking about glazes. I'm new though and there could be some reason out there why this is not such a good idea...

That Sonus product sounds extremely interesting, though. Sure it will be in my shopping cart at some point when in February I'm dreaming about taking my car out of storage.
 
cpa5oh said:
I have it in my mind that I'm going to get my clearcoat compounded/polished one last time in the spring and then I'm going to put Opti-Coat on it. From reading here and on other sites I understand that it is basically a harder layer of clear...and that when it gets swirls and scratches in it and you polish it with an abrasive polish you aren't touching your original clear and it'll finish out nicely. I know that's completely different than the title of this thread, but that's what my plan is to deal with the same issue (not alot of clear left) that caused you to start asking about glazes. I'm new though and there could be some reason out there why this is not such a good idea...
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:iagree: You are not alone in your plan, a lot of us are doing exactly this, using the OC to take the wear & tear, then rejuvenating with poli-seal/GPS or polishing down & re-coating. I have been extremely happy with how OC has been holding up and resisting scratches, but I am starting to notice a few, so come spring I will polish it down and re-coat.
 
Liquid Ebony used to be a very popular filler glaze for dark colored cars at the dealership I worked at. I wonder how similar it is to Poor Boys Black Hole?
 
LegacyGT said:
:iagree: You are not alone in your plan, a lot of us are doing exactly this, using the OC to take the wear & tear, then rejuvenating with poli-seal/GPS or polishing down & re-coating. I have been extremely happy with how OC has been holding up and resisting scratches, but I am starting to notice a few, so come spring I will polish it down and re-coat.
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Does the OC coat look as good as regular clear? (assuming both have all of the marring polished out?)

And one of the downsides, I thought, of OC is that nothing bonds to it - or that's what I *think* I read. If that's the case, that's the major downfall for me...that, when I'm not ready for a polishing, I wouldn't be able to put glaze on it and have it hold up beyond a wash. If that's not the case, OC + this Sonus product here I come!
 
silverfox said:
Sonus swirl buster polish. Awesome stuff and you can apply multiple coats without damaging any clearcoat. It uses resins not silicone as a filler which means it lasts and won't wash off. Top it with any LSP. It's kind of a unique product.

So much emphasis is on removing swirls. That's cool but no matter how much you remove you will get some level of swirls back again over time no matter how careful you are. Glazes and products like the Sonus product don't get much press but they surely are a solution to a problem. Removing swirls everytime you get some is not practical.
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Interesting...never heard of this until just now. Might have to pick some up.
 
Seems like Autoglym SRP is a similar product to the Sonus stuff...resin as the filler.
 
cpa5oh said:
Does the OC coat look as good as regular clear? (assuming both have all of the marring polished out?)

And one of the downsides, I thought, of OC is that nothing bonds to it - or that's what I *think* I read. If that's the case, that's the major downfall for me...that, when I'm not ready for a polishing, I wouldn't be able to put glaze on it and have it hold up beyond a wash. If that's not the case, OC + this Sonus product here I come!
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OC looks fantastic! I think it looks better than the factory clear, gives depth and gloss. If you have well polished paint will look amazing, just as good as any high end wax or sealant, but it will last a lot longer, and keep that show-car shine going unlike a traditional wax or sealant.

You can still wax on top of OC, it may not last as long since it is a very smooth surface, but I can still get my waxing fix even with OC on my car. Honestly I have found that a lot of time putting anything on top of OC makes you aware of flaws with wax such as dust attraction or sweating, but if you love the feeling of putting on a coat of wax, you can still do it with OC.
 
So I have 4 different ones I want to try but don't know which will do better

Meguiars #9 Swirl Remover 2
Sonus Swirl Buster
Amigo banana gloss
and CG Glossworks Glaze

I'm thinking about buying all 4 lol
 
almost every "polish" at your local parts store will be a glaze. i havent searched much in the way of m105 / m205 from parts stores, but it's not present on the shelves that i have seen.

when you go and view the shelf, you'll likely see a large selection of "glazes" from meguiars that include a few from this page. meguiars polish - Google Search

most of the listed are a glaze. even if you select the product, it will have in large bold letters at the top "GLAZE".

to identify what a glaze vs a polish does to paint, visit a local salvage yard and buy a cheap fender or door. *$15 - $25* after applying the product and polishing the paint, review the results. then wipe with low odor mineral spirits and review the results again.

you will then see
chris<pixelmonkey>:D
 
My body shop doesn't use "heavy fillers"....go figure! :D

For your situation [assuming this is for your personal vehicle(s)]....
I'll suggest:
-3M Finesse-It-II Refinishing Material #05928; followed by:
-3M Imperial Hand Glaze #0599; followed by (optional...but imparts a very "glossy/wet-look"):
-Meg's #7 Show Car Glaze...the only true non-abrasive polish!; followed by:
-Meg's #26...paste or liquid form.


-Many glazes/polishes claim to remove swirls/minor scratches without the use of abrasives, of some sort or the other. For example....Some might claim their products will massage away the swirls/light scratches. Others may claim their products will gently round over, the hard edges of swirls/scratches.

IMO.....It's entirely up to an individual, then, to decide whether, or not, that is possible without using some sort of abrasives.

-Not saying that abrasives, or are bad for vehicles' paint. Not at all.
-It's just: "The Process" (of selecting glazes/polishes), as I have become accustomed to, so often becomes blurred.


:)

Bob
 
Ardex Stereo Glaze #2 Stuff fills and is a PITA to remove.
 
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