Souveran not smooth?

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I am currently using Pinnacle's pre-wax stripper, then Souveran wax, and finally their after spray that it doesn't produce the smooth typical wax like finish I have been accustomed to with other products. I use the detailer after every wash as well and the wax has been on since 9/07 and 2k miles. It is garaged, not a daily driver, and not purposly driven in the rain.

Is this normal for the product or am I doing something wrong? I applied all by hand.

Thanks
 
You aren't doing anything wrong, you just left out a step :). Dirt, tar, sap and other ultra fine contaminants get bonded to your paint even though you can't see them. A clay bar is designed to remove this junk and to leave you with a perfectly smooth surface. Pinnacle's Ulta poly clay and a quick detailer is all you'll need to preform this step. Welcome to AGO.

Here's what your next detail should look like:
Wash
Clay
Polish (light to remove any marring, if needed)
Paint cleaner
Souveran
 
I'm not sure what you mean. What is it about the finish that is different? Is it something you could show in pics? BTW - over 4 months is a little long for most waxes to last and very long for a beauty wax such as Souveran.
 
Like the others I not sure exactly what you mean as far a producing a smooth typical wax like finish. I use Souveran as the LSP on a number of my cars. I do like to use a paint sealant like Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant before apply Souveran. My paint always feels very slick.
 
when using the Souveran kit as described, you should notice a notable glow especially when using on darker finishes. If the finish does Not feel smooth, then claying or paint cleaning is needed.
 
My finish is always slick feeling. Claybar after washing then rinse. Then apply the Souveran. I have the spray wax and I like the look and feel!
 
Thanks for the warm welcome.

I noticed some commented about not understanding my "not smooth" situation. The typical rag test ie rag sliding off the finish passes with flying colors, and water beads beautifully as well. But when I run my finger over the finish it makes a squeeling noise similiar to when you use Windex etc. while cleaning windows. And there seems be be alot of friction.

I guess the clay bar should do it though. Can someone recommend a grit for dark colors? I don't want to chance scratching the finish with too rough a bar.

Thanks for all the info!
 
Pinnacles Ultra clay is great for most finishes, and find only some need to move to a more aggressive clay.

Clay Test --- take a baggie or piece of saran wrap and cover your hand. Try to glide across the paint, if it studders or stumbles than car can benefit from claying !
 
Is Pinnacles Ultra light mint green color? Shall I use their claybar solution as well or can I use Meguires Quik Detail as usual?

Thanks
 
I get that squeak as well. Did a full detail on the exterior of my car (s):
Wash
Clay
Wash
Polish
Paint Cleanser
4 Star UPP
Souveran LIQUID

The surface is clean and beads and smooth, just isn't SLICK. If you run your finger over it, it sticks to the surface slightly and makes the squeak noise. When I've used other sealants/wax's ive had the slick feeling on the paint as well as when it was first applied, just not after the first wash.
 
Glad to see I'm not the only one, maybe I don't need clay after all.

Thanks for the link!!
 
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Get the claaaaay!! Claying is almost mandatory, especially if it's never been done before (even on brand new cars). It is a good idea to clay about 2 times a year. Even if the paint feels smooth, chances are it can benefit from a clay job 2x a year.

FWIW, 4* UPP is one of the slickest products on the market, however, I haven't had any product feel slick after a few weeks. It's still protecting but slickness tends to fade fast with all products for me.
 
Yeah, the 4* UPP is incredible when you first put it on....I couldn't beleive it, i had to have my wife come out and feel the car!!! :)

Though I did clay the car beforehand and I just dont have any slickness anymore. On my wifes car (same procedure), I used some crystal myst after a wash and the slickness seemed to come back.
 
D_Nyholm said:
Yeah, the 4* UPP is incredible when you first put it on....I couldn't beleive it, i had to have my wife come out and feel the car!!! :)

Though I did clay the car beforehand and I just dont have any slickness anymore. On my wifes car (same procedure), I used some crystal myst after a wash and the slickness seemed to come back.
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I think it's impossible to keep a LSP slick for extended periods of time without using some sort of QD or spray sealant/wax weekly. Just curious how the UPP too to lose its slickness?
 
UPP can fall off quickly unless using their soap and their qd'er (gloss spray). I have found with Polycharger the slickness lasts longer, and using Zaino Z8 also adds back slickness.
 
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