Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

[hoyt66]

A few weeks I bought the VIP special that contained this brush with telescoping handle, Blackfire car wash and car drying towel. I really wanted to do away with any raised platform when washing my truck. One swipe down my Bpillar looked like I ran sandpaper over it. Now I know they're delicate at best but WOW I did not expect this! This thing is going back to AG first thing Monday.

Speed Master Car Wash Brush
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Kind of bummed about my shiny dash scratched up Bpillar 2018 F150 today :-(

 

[Eldorado2k]

How long did you allow the brush to soak in the car shampoo prior to starting your wash? What kind of soap did you use?

 

[fly07sti]

Ouch! I was going to buy one so I could just stand in my truck bed and wash the roof, but didn’t pull the trigger. Now seeing this I’m glad I didn’t buy it. Sorry this happened to you.

 

[hoyt66]

How long did you allow the brush to soak in the car shampoo prior to starting your wash? What kind of soap did you use?

Let the brush soak roughly 20 minutes . The bristles are synthetic so I didn’t think that would have much impact . Just put it in the bucket while I did wheels and tires.
For soap I used the blackfire that came with the kit


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[SWETM]

Wow that brush did a number on your b-pillar. Sorry that it happened to you. Do you have any empty writeble cd or dvd disc? If you would be kind to do a cd test too. Use the kind of pressure you would do when washing and 5-10 strokes back and forth. And then look if or how it scratch the cd. Just would be intresting to know when it caused that kind of damage on the b-pillar.

Is the boarhairs brushes safe to wash with?

 

[Bruno Soares]

Nice idea about testing on a CD. Those piano black pillars scratch with anything so I wouldn’t be surprised if even a CD was harder than them.

 

[UncleDavy]

I have been using the boars hair brush to wash my midnight blue truck and there have not been any issues. I am sorry that you had an issue with the speed brush. It claims to have synthetic fibers and they seemed to have done a number on your B pillar. On the plus side, you get to polish them out to make them look better than new. I did all the pillars on my Ford Explorer with HD Polish+ and I was pleased with the results.

 

[DaveT435]

It's not boars hair. Being a synthetic material I don't think soaking would make much difference. I used the Megs synthetic bristled, flag tipped brush on the face of my wheels and it scratched them. Nothing but boars hair from then on.

 

[Eldorado2k]

It's not boars hair. Being a synthetic material I don't think soaking would make much difference.

The directions for this brush say to soak for 10min. to allow the bristles to soften and become more pliable. It’d be interesting to find out who’s right about this.

 

[Route246]

The directions for this brush say to soak for 10min. to allow the bristles to soften and become more pliable. It’d be interesting to find out who’s right about this.

This doesn't look right. The long lines don't look like swirls caused by scratching. That looks like staining more than swirls caused by the "cobweb effect" as documented here many times. Not doubting OP but the light source for these photos is not depicting something that looks like damage from the brush.

https://www.autogeekonline.net/foru...ace-defects-your-camera.html?highlight=swirls

https://www.autogeekonline.net/foru...pture-swirls-sun.html?highlight=cobweb+effect

 

[hoyt66]

This doesn't look right. The long lines don't look like swirls caused by scratching. That looks like staining more than swirls caused by the "cobweb effect" as documented here many times. Not doubting OP but the light source for these photos is not depicting something that looks like damage from the brush.

https://www.autogeekonline.net/foru...ace-defects-your-camera.html?highlight=swirls

https://www.autogeekonline.net/foru...pture-swirls-sun.html?highlight=cobweb+effect

Its just a quick iphone pic but the pic shows straight vertical scratches form the direction of the brush. lol well horizontal because I forgot to hold the phone sideways

 

[Route246]

Its just a quick iphone pic but the pic shows straight vertical scratches form the direction of the brush. lol well horizontal because I forgot to hold the phone sideways

The orientation doesn't really matter. The fact that they are parallel straight lines does. This looks much more like streaks or strains rather than scratches. The lines appear too wide. Scratches from a brush are going to result in circular, concentric patterns emanating from the primary light source. Was this wiped down with QD or any other drying agent type of product?

 

[hoyt66]

The orientation doesn't really matter. The fact that they are parallel straight lines does. This looks much more like streaks or strains rather than scratches. The lines appear too wide. Scratches from a brush are going to result in circular, concentric patterns emanating from the primary light source. Was this wiped down with QD or any other drying agent type of product?

I literally went from top to bottom and watched it leave a trail of scratches. I can tell you they polished out relatively easy

 

[kevincwelch]

Not doubting OP...

Sure you are, and that's O.K.

If you have a different opinion (and obviously you do because of your alternate explanation), then there's no need to say you don't doubt the OP. If you didn't doubt the OP, you wouldn't have responded. If you're right, something tells me hoyt66 would be happy to be wrong about this and keep his purchase.

 

[hoyt66]

Sure you are, and that's O.K.

If you have a different opinion (and obviously you do because of your alternate explanation), then there's no need to say you don't doubt the OP. If you didn't doubt the OP, you wouldn't have responded. If you're right, something tells me hoyt66 would be happy to be wrong about this and keep his purchase.

This is true. I would be happy if I was wrong. And I certainly have no problem with ppl doubting or questioning me. This all part of forum participation.

 

[Desertnate]

Sorry to see it didn't work out, but I never use a brush for anything other than wheels and tires. I've tried some brushes on long extension poles for the roof of our SUV and despite the brush being really soft, I've quit using it because of the swirls it induced to the paint.

Nice idea about testing on a CD. Those piano black pillars scratch with anything so I wouldn’t be surprised if even a CD was harder than them.

Agree. The B pillars on my VW are insanely soft. I have to be very careful around them even when drying and doing a wipe down with very soft, clean, MF towels.

 

[Desertnate]

I used the Megs synthetic bristled, flag tipped brush on the face of my wheels and it scratched them. Nothing but boars hair from then on.

Where they a shiny black surface? I've seen glossy black painted accents on wheels from many different OEM and aftermarket vendors these days and I can't imagine how hard it will be to keep those wheels looking nice. At least a gray/silver wheel will hide the scratches and swirls for a while, but there is no hiding damage on those gloss black accents.

 

[Route246]

Sure you are, and that's O.K.

If you have a different opinion (and obviously you do because of your alternate explanation), then there's no need to say you don't doubt the OP. If you didn't doubt the OP, you wouldn't have responded. If you're right, something tells me hoyt66 would be happy to be wrong about this and keep his purchase.

I'm not doubting the brush may have damaged or created an undesirable result. I am doubting that those are typical swirls that a brush would induce because of the width of the lines and the fact that they are parallel straight lines and not circular in nature.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

A few weeks I bought the VIP special that contained this brush with telescoping handle, Blackfire car wash and car drying towel. I really wanted to do away with any raised platform when washing my truck. One swipe down my Bpillar looked like I ran sandpaper over it.

Now I know they're delicate at best but WOW I did not expect this! This thing is going back to AG first thing Monday.

Speed Master Car Wash Brush


Side I did not use the brush on

Side I did use the brush on

Kind of bummed about my shiny dash scratched up Bpillar 2018 F150 today :-(

And this is why I don't like all the plastic used on modern Bic cars. This type of plastic scratches very easy. It buffs out easy, but it's thin so you cannot buff on it too many times or you'll buff off the black outer shell and expose the underlying white colored plastic.

I'd contact customer care and cite this thread and I'm sure they'll take care of you.


Just a personal not of my experience with brushes. The key factor is the hardness or softness of the surface being washed. My wife's Mercedes-Benz has the Ceramiclear finish and I have used car wash brushes on it with no scratching. The old 1987 Chevy Silverado I use to own, (sold it a few months ago), it of course had a custom paint job and the paint on it was very soft. Washing it with a Boars Hair Brush easily scratched it up.

So surface hardness is as key factor.

 

[DanHen]

I wonder if a ceramic coating would have stopped the scratching? I've always wanted to try a brush on the cars to get around bending over but have been afraid of possible scratches.