Spray wax or Quick detailer

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What do you use to maintain your finish between a complete wax detail. By that I mean wash, clay, and sealant/wax application. After a weekly wash, what do you use to maintain the finish?

1. Quick wax or quick detailer: What's the difference?

2. Which is better to apply and why?

3. What specific brands do you like?

Thank you for your input.
 
When I started on detailing forums a long time ago, the standard practice was to use a quick detailer after your wash, the primary purpose being to remove any water spots from the wash and to give the car a little "pop" (gloss).

Today there are so many good spray waxes/sealants, that are so easy to use, that most members use one of those instead, because it's about the same effort as using a QD but gives you some real protection to extend the life of your LSP.

The difference between a QD and a "quick" or spray wax/sealant is the slickness, look, and any protection provided by the QD will be very short-lived (hours/days) and will be removed by rain, etc., while the spray LSP will have a longevity measured in days/weeks (or arguably months).

There are plenty of good ones, you will get probably every opinion in this thread. Just to throw out a few names, there is the Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax, Duragloss AquaWax, Optimum Car Wax, Pinnacle Souveran Liquid Spray Wax (on sale now), etc.
 
After a wash there is no need for a quick detailer as the car is clean. A spray wax is a good idea to maintain the protection. I like Optimum spray wax. Some people will tell you that they will spray it on the car as they are drying the car after it is washed.
 
I haven't tried a quick wax, but I have tried the quick detailer. It is smooth and has good lubrication.
 
There is real justification using some sort of finishing product, if for no other reason than to spot water spotting. Unless you use filtered water of some sort, this is almost inevitable. Yes, you could just dry the car but the less water that is there, the more friction between towel and surface and you increase the risk of marking the finish. By using a good finishing product, you lubricate the surface whilst it is drying and minimise this risk.

Personally I think a straight spray wax is not the way forward here. For a start, lubrication is not the best and for seconds, as it is a wax, it really needs a few minutes to dry properly before buffing. As such, they really should be 2 step processes. Spray sealants are generally a better solution because they are quite good on the lubrication although many still need a few minutes and a final buff for optimal performance. In reality the two groups are mixes as many spray waxes do contain artificial additives, similar to those in sealants. To my mind, a QD should be a true one step product - apply and leave, no subsequent buffing. As such it is the WOWA/WOWO type of sealants which I sell as QDs (unless asked specifically otherwise).
 
Setec Astronomy said:
When I started on detailing forums a long time ago, the standard practice was to use a quick detailer after your wash, the primary purpose being to remove any water spots from the wash and to give the car a little "pop" (gloss).

Today there are so many good spray waxes/sealants, that are so easy to use, that most members use one of those instead, because it's about the same effort as using a QD but gives you some real protection to extend the life of your LSP.

The difference between a QD and a "quick" or spray wax/sealant is the slickness, look, and any protection provided by the QD will be very short-lived (hours/days) and will be removed by rain, etc., while the spray LSP will have a longevity measured in days/weeks (or arguably months).

There are plenty of good ones, you will get probably every opinion in this thread. Just to throw out a few names, there is the Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax, Duragloss AquaWax, Optimum Car Wax, Pinnacle Souveran Liquid Spray Wax (on sale now), etc.
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What he said is pretty much right on the $$$$$......
 
The Definitive How-To Guide for Spray Waxes, Quick Detail Sprays & Waterless Washes

Here is my definition of a spray wax, quick detail spray and a waterless wash.


Spray Wax: A product containing protective properties to protect and beautify the surface that it's designed to be applied to (ie: paint). A spray wax (sometimes referred to as a "spray sealant") is designed to be applied to paint that's squeaky clean and free of any dust, dirt, or contaminants. A quality spray wax will easily yield 3-4 months of stand-alone protection. A spray wax (spray sealant) is often used as a "booster" over an existing wax, sealant or coating.

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Quick Detail Spray: Just as the name implies, a quick way to touch up your vehicle's finish. A quick detail spray often contains carnauba or polymers (some contain both!) to spruce up your vehicle's appearance. A quick detail spray is often used after a wash to boost the shine. Most quick detail sprays can also be used to remove light dust (don't worry, we'll get more into that later). While a quick detail spray can contain carnauba or polymers, they don't provide too much paint protection, like a spray wax does. Lubricants ensure you don't scratch the finish as you wipe away dust.

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Waterless Wash: A waterless wash (often referred to as a "spray on car wash") contains an advanced blend of lubricants and cleaners designed to safely lift dirt and soil from your vehicle's finish without scratching. Spray on, wipe with a plush microfiber towel, buff, and the car is clean. Most waterless car wash products don't contain any protective properties and will not leave a shine that a true Auto Geek is satisfied with. Follow up with a spray wax so you can sleep at night.

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1. Quick wax or quick detailer: What's the difference? Quick Wax has some Carnauba and detail spray is mainly for looks.

2. Which is better to apply and why? I'd say Spray Wax to rejuvenate the current wax.

3. What specific brands do you like? Quick Wax- Meguire's Gold Class, Pinnacle Spray Wax and DuraGloss 951.

Spray Detailer- DoDo Juice Basics of Bling
 
I use a QD with Carnauba after I dry my car, just to pick up any spots or smears. I get spots if parts get dry before I can run over them with my drying towel. Then I will use a sray wax/sealant once in a while to add even more protection and shine.

QD - I get locally at Prevette's
Spray Wax - Optimum and Pinnacle
 
WG Deep Spray Sealant Spritz is very nice. Instant bling.
 
I have been using Turtle Wax Ice spray wax and getting outstanding results. I can get it locally and for a decent price. Some on here may scoff, but it works very well for me.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
When I started on detailing forums a long time ago, the standard practice was to use a quick detailer after your wash, the primary purpose being to remove any water spots from the wash and to give the car a little "pop" (gloss).

Today there are so many good spray waxes/sealants, that are so easy to use, that most members use one of those instead, because it's about the same effort as using a QD but gives you some real protection to extend the life of your LSP.

The difference between a QD and a "quick" or spray wax/sealant is the slickness, look, and any protection provided by the QD will be very short-lived (hours/days) and will be removed by rain, etc., while the spray LSP will have a longevity measured in days/weeks (or arguably months).

There are plenty of good ones, you will get probably every opinion in this thread. Just to throw out a few names, there is the Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax, Duragloss AquaWax, Optimum Car Wax, Pinnacle Souveran Liquid Spray Wax (on sale now), etc.
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Extremely well written and I concur 100%. I do wish to point out that just because a product has the word "wax" in it does not mean it contains same. As an example Aquawax and Meg's Quik Wax are spray on wipe off sealants. Optimum and Souveran both contain carnauba. All work extremely well, I'm just saying to read some descriptions before deciding. None of these mentioned requires any waiting time, they are spray on & wipe off. It's just that simple. I feel that DG Aquawax is the bargain of the bunch and works as well as any mentioned.
 
To coin a phrase by Larry Kasilla, its all about building layers of protection.

Detail sprays for the most part don't add much if anything as far as protection.

Why wipe anything on the paint that isn't building those layers? I don't put something on just for looks. If its not building those layers it's not going on.

I have boxes of detail sprays of all sorts never to see the light of day again.
 
silverfox said:
To coin a phrase by Larry Kasilla, its all about building layers of protection.

Detail sprays for the most part don't add much if anything as far as protection.

Why wipe anything on the paint that isn't building those layers? I don't put something on just for looks. If its not building those layers it's not going on.

I have boxes of detail sprays of all sorts never to see the light of day again.
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I understand what you're saying, but I think the purpose of a quick detailer is to do a minor cleaning/dust off without building up those layers as said previously. because as I've heard (although never layered enough for it to happen to me), is that too many layers will cause cloudiness. I find a nice qd to give a good shine a few days after putting on an lsp. I usually use them before a nice drive through town or after the car sits in the garage for lil bit and when a waterless wash is not really necessary.

But hey! If you don't want those qd's, mail them to me! I'll put them to use and even pay shipping :dblthumb2:
 
I'll use a QD to remove any random water spots or streaks that came about during the wash. I use it as a touch-up only and won't hit the entire vehicle. I have Sonus Spritz for my cars wearing Klasse SG and use the old, classic Meguiars QD in the maroon bottle on everything else. Of the two, I like the Meguiars much better.

I'm not a consistant spray wax user. I've got a bottle of Sonuz Glanz I've used on my Klasse'd vehicles as well (only recently started trying other stuff), but never really noticed that much improvement over the shine of a clean car. I'm beginning to wonder if it's the product. I'm seriously contemplating trying out the Meguiars Ultimate Quik Wax on one of my other vehicles after every few washes just to see what happens. The rave reviews of Aqua Wax has caught me attention too, but it's not as easy to get in my area.
 
JACdetailing said:
building up those layers as said previously. because as I've heard (although never layered enough for it to happen to me), is that too many layers will cause cloudiness.
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Wow, I must have missed a memo--where is this coming from? For years we've talked on forums about how LSP's have no measurable thickness (until Opti-Coat, which is supposed to be 1-2 microns) and that layering doesn't really work, but now you can build up layers of spray wax until your paint is cloudy?

Who started this hype train and what is their agenda?
 
silverfox said:
To coin a phrase by Larry Kasilla, its all about building layers of protection.

Detail sprays for the most part don't add much if anything as far as protection.

Why wipe anything on the paint that isn't building those layers? I don't put something on just for looks. If its not building those layers it's not going on.

I have boxes of detail sprays of all sorts never to see the light of day again.
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/\ THIS

I used to use QD between washes. Now I never use it... the less I touch the paint the better. Definitely spray wax, then leave it alone until your next detail :xyxthumbs:
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Wow, I must have missed a memo--where is this coming from? For years we've talked on forums about how LSP's have no measurable thickness (until Opti-Coat, which is supposed to be 1-2 microns) and that layering doesn't really work, but now you can build up layers of spray wax until your paint is cloudy?

Who started this hype train and what is their agenda?
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sorry for the misinformation. I did some more research and I agree. Somewhere I must have gotten the wrong information or misinterpreted something when reading a thread. Probably read it from someone who didn't know (like me).

I'm still pretty fresh to autogeek forum (as you can see with my post count) and definitely have not read nearly as much threads as you. Once again I apologize, I still have a lot to learn!
 
PiPUK said:
There is real justification using some sort of finishing product, if for no other reason than to spot water spotting. Unless you use filtered water of some sort, this is almost inevitable. Yes, you could just dry the car but the less water that is there, the more friction between towel and surface and you increase the risk of marking the finish. By using a good finishing product, you lubricate the surface whilst it is drying and minimise this risk.

Personally I think a straight spray wax is not the way forward here. For a start, lubrication is not the best and for seconds, as it is a wax, it really needs a few minutes to dry properly before buffing. As such, they really should be 2 step processes. Spray sealants are generally a better solution because they are quite good on the lubrication although many still need a few minutes and a final buff for optimal performance. In reality the two groups are mixes as many spray waxes do contain artificial additives, similar to those in sealants. To my mind, a QD should be a true one step product - apply and leave, no subsequent buffing. As such it is the WOWA/WOWO type of sealants which I sell as QDs (unless asked specifically otherwise).
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I like your thoughts.
 
JACdetailing said:
sorry for the misinformation. I did some more research and I agree. Somewhere I must have gotten the wrong information or misinterpreted something when reading a thread. Probably read it from someone who didn't know (like me).
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This was nothing personal against you, this is a hot topic: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...aquawax-drying-aid-will-cloud-your-paint.html and I'm just trying to figure out who started this nonsense and why. For years the "layering" discussion has gone on and I thought the consensus was that you really CAN'T build up any layers, but suddenly people are able to build up layers of spray wax to the extent that their paint is dulled...huh?
 
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