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Anthony0077

Anthony0077

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Hey all,

As mentioned in my previous thread, I'm new to the detailing world, however, been doing my research for the past 6 months so I have a good base of knowledge.

With that said, I'm looking to offer a Wash & Wax package to my customer. Of course, I will proceed with the Foam bath and 2 bucket method then the decontamination stage, however, I'm trying to figure out the best sealant/wax in order to provide the best shine and protection. Water beading is a big thing for me so that's important as well. I'm open to a little less protection but gloss and shine are important. Ideally, 3-4 months of protection is fine.

The options I'm looking at so far is:


TURTLE HYBRID SOLUTIONS PRO TO THE MAX WAX
Jescar Power Lock Plus Polymer Sealant
Collinite (This was my first option, however, I read that it hazes after a few days and that's not a good look for me to my customers)

I will be applying all waxes and sealants by hand.

Thank you for your time.
 
57Rambler said:
If you just want to apply a straight-up sealant, try one of these :

Duragloss Total Performance Polish (TPP) # 105 + Duragloss Polish Bonding Agent (PBA) #601

(Mix 4 parts #105 to 1 part #601 and then apply)


or


Wolfgang SiO2 Paint Sealant




Now if you want to do a little light correction (very minor swirls, etc.) followed by a sealant, then use this :

BLACKFIRE One Step, BLACKFIRE Total Polish & Seal, polish and wax, cleaner wax, car polish
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Thank you. As I'm starting off, I may not do any paint correction. However, is the Blackfire a good product if I wish to apply it by hand? Obviously, machine application is better but I'm waiting off on using any machine polishers for now. Also, Is Wolfgang SiO2 Paint Sealant a good product if I'm not doing any paint correction and just looking for protection and gloss?
 
Just a little food for thought.....

This is for a business venture then speed and ease of application is important since time is money. You might want to look at touchless sealants like Geyon Wet coat or Car Pro Hydro2 lite. Spray on after wash and rinse off with pressure washer. Dry and you are done. Both products give a very high level of gloss and the protection is about 3-6 months depending on condition. Do one panel at a time and be in the shades and you wont have any issues. If you like making your own mixture then Car Pro Hydro2 concentrate is the one to get.

Car Pro also make a foam soap (Hydrofoam) that you can wash and coat at the same time after a pre-wash. I personally prefer the previous method.

Good luck to you.


P.S.

Blackfire HydroSeal works just as well.

 
Anthony....you might want to think about Blackfire one step...you can use it by hand..it cleans...polishes and protects....also top it with SIO2 blackfire sealant
 
If you are doing this for money, you will kick yourself for working by hand. I'd look into at least a Porter Cable 7424XP, if not a Griot's G9 to start.


Also, I have used just about every Collinite product, and in all types of temps and humidity. It is my opinion that all of the hazing problems come from over-applying it. Most people just cannot wrap their heads around how THIN you need to apply these products.

I have been using the same bottle of 845 on my truck and/or Wife's Jeep for 5 years now. It is just now half empty........ ;)
 
Anthony0077 said:
Thank you. As I'm starting off, I may not do any paint correction. However, is the Blackfire a good product if I wish to apply it by hand? Obviously, machine application is better but I'm waiting off on using any machine polishers for now. Also, Is Wolfgang SiO2 Paint Sealant a good product if I'm not doing any paint correction and just looking for protection and gloss?
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Yes, you can apply the BF One Step by hand ... that's one of the reasons I suggested it as you had previously stated you were working by hand. BF One Step is neat because you can dial up or down its correction ability by altering your method of application (hand or machine) as well as the applicator material used (foam pad, microfiber pad, etc.).

As for your other question, yes, both the Duragloss and Wolfgang sealants would be fine to use without doing any correction. Any quality sealant will give you "protection and gloss" regardless of whether or not you have done any prior paint correction.
 
Thin is the name of the game. Remember, you're only removing the excess when you wipe off. You will get a thinner, more even coat if you use a machine, and the application process will go faster, as will the removal. If you have the budget, invest in an entry level polisher, such as the Griots G9. Get some of the grey finishing pads....practice on your own car. You will be amazed how simple it is.

As a side note, consider a spray on product like Griots 3 in 1 Ceramic Spray Wax. Easy to use, and checks the boxes of gloss, shine and protection.
 
Thank you for all your suggestions!

57Rambler said:
Yes, you can apply the BF One Step by hand ... that's one of the reasons I suggested it as you had previously stated you were working by hand. BF One Step is neat because you can dial up or down its correction ability by altering your method of application (hand or machine) as well as the applicator material used (foam pad, microfiber pad, etc.).

As for your other question, yes, both the Duragloss and Wolfgang sealants would be fine to use without doing any correction. Any quality sealant will give you "protection and gloss" regardless of whether or not you have done any prior paint correction.
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The BF One Step looks like a great product, however, as I live in Canada I can't seem to find the product online anywhere. Any sggestions?

briarpatch said:
Thin is the name of the game. Remember, you're only removing the excess when you wipe off. You will get a thinner, more even coat if you use a machine, and the application process will go faster, as will the removal. If you have the budget, invest in an entry level polisher, such as the Griots G9. Get some of the grey finishing pads....practice on your own car. You will be amazed how simple it is.

As a side note, consider a spray on product like Griots 3 in 1 Ceramic Spray Wax. Easy to use, and checks the boxes of gloss, shine and protection.
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I will definitely look into the Griots G9 polisher and probably work on my own car as practice.

EDIT:

Would the 3D ONE HYBRID SINGLE STEP COMPOUND work just as well? It seems to be more accessible for me to purchase. I've read some great reviews on this product and the ease of use for beginners is a plus.
 
Anthony0077 said:
Would the 3D ONE HYBRID SINGLE STEP COMPOUND work just as well? It seems to be more accessible for me to purchase. I've read some great reviews on this product and the ease of use for beginners is a plus.
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3D One is for paint correction.....does not leave protection behind
 
Anthony0077 said:
The BF One Step looks like a great product, however, as I live in Canada I can't seem to find the product online anywhere. Any sggestions?
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BF One Step is available on the Canadian web site for that "jungle" company started by Jeff Bezos ...
 
Anthony0077 said:
Yes, I'm aware.
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Anthony, If you are having trouble locating BlackFire up North, but you can find the 3D line, look into 3D Speed. It is a great product that leaves behind some protection.
 
Anthony0077 said:
Yes, I'm aware.
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I'm confused.....why did you ask about 3D One then? In the context of your post, you were looking for suggestions for a wax and/or sealant. When you asked the question ..."Would the 3D ONE HYBRID SINGLE STEP COMPOUND work just as well?".....I naturally thought you were asking if it work just as well as a wax or a sealant.
 
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