SunJoe 3000 vs. AR383ss or AR390

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Which one would you recommend? is the AR less desirable because of the proprietary fittings, e.g. Is it a pain to have to order parts?

i am asking again because a number of you indicated that you had bought one of these in the last 3 months. I'd love to hear from you that bought one in addition to anyone with experience and opinions.

Thanks

David
 
Is the AR less desirable because of the fittings? In a word, yes.

While I think the 390SS is a well-designed machine and it seems very stout, I'm thinking of selling mine off after only a few uses. First, I'm not a big fan of the plastic outer case (on ANY of the current electrics that have a case), and the hose reel -- perhaps because of the case -- is necessarily mounted a bit too high, causing the unit to be tippy when you come to the end of the ~20 foot hose while working around a car. The hose itself seems to be pretty good and it unwinds easily enough but it has crazy memory and constantly re-loops and gets tangled on itself, reducing its effective length while in use. Electrics are easy to move around so I don't need a 50 foot hose, but 25 would be nice, especially if it stayed straight.

At this point I'm thinking of selling it for half what I paid and eating the rest, and getting the GreenWorks 2000 from Lowes. The GreenWorks trades a plastic case for a simple steel frame like most gas units have, with the pump down low and the reel directly above. The hose looks similar to that on the AR, but with M22 fittings at either end, allowing me to get a better, more flexible PU hose like a Flexzilla. I thought I did my homework but I didn't realize the AR's hose would tick me off so much, and because of the connectors it can't be swapped for something better.
 
I have the Sun Joe SPX3000 and so far I'm liking it. The only thing I'd recommend is getting a metal female coupler where the garden hose attaches rather than the plastic one that came with it. The plastic one works okay but started leaking after a few uses.

The hose that came with it works well but 25 ft wasn't long enough for me so I got a 50 ft hose. Compared to the 50 ft hose that I bought the original 25 ft hose has a lot less memory issues and is much more flexible.

I've used mine for six months and haven't had any issues with it so far. *fingers crossed* I'll probably buy another one at the end of the year as a backup. At $200 if they last 12 months I'll be more than satisfied.
 
got me a Sun JoeSPX3000 at HD last week sale for $159. I like it because 2000psi/1.7gpm is adequate for auto washing. It also got standard coupler (M22 and 1/4 QC). No Proprietary BS connectors like the AR(which i also own). I like electric PW because it's so quiet. Pulled the trigger and it's on. Let off the trigger and it's off. No more engine humming like the gas version (which i also own this one NorthStar Gas Cold Water Pressure Washer — 3.5 GPM, 4000 PSI, Honda Engine, Model# 15782020 | Gas-Cold Water Pressure Washers| Northern Tool + Equipment )
 
Your comments suggest the sun joe may be the way to go. HD now carries it.

Any other electric models in this price and performance range the audience would recommend?

Thanks for the feedback.
 
GreenWorks 2000 psi I mentioned above. Seen it recommended a few times before but thought the AR might be better. Like I said, the AR seems well made overall, but the quibbles I noted above have me recommending against it. For some of us, $200 is a decent chunk of change, so due diligence is part of the process. I certainly hope a $200 tool would last more than a year!
 
SameGuy said:
GreenWorks 2000 psi I mentioned above. Seen it recommended a few times before but thought the AR might be better. Like I said, the AR seems well made overall, but the quibbles I noted above have me recommending against it. For some of us, $200 is a decent chunk of change, so due diligence is part of the process. I certainly hope a $200 tool would last more than a year!
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I used to have a GreenWorks power washer. I had the 1950psi unit from Lowe's. I went thru several of them over three years. One had electrical issues (only would turn off if unplugged) and two had water pumps die. I ended up taking the Lowe's store credit and buying a gas pressure washer. I can't fully recommend the Greenworks based on my experience with the 1950 psi unit.

I wonder if the 2000 psi unit uses completely different internals than the 1950psi unit.
 
I was at Northerntool to pick up some couplers for my SunJoe and notice this on sale...Mighty Clean Electric Pressure Washer — 1.5 GPM, 1,800 PSI, Model# MC1800N | Electric-Cold Water Pressure Washers| Northern Tool + Equipment ...I looks well built, funtional, and with all standard connectors. This remind me of the kranzle style PW. For $149, i'd totally get this one. There is always a $20 coupon floating somewhere on the internet you can use to make this PW $129. Free shipping to store. good luck
 
The sunjoe hose is only 20ft and way too short for my liking but it is very flexible. Probably the best hose of any electric pw since it has no memory and will not curl up like those pvc type hoses.

At the same time, not having a hose reel is a pita so I bought a karcher.
 
I just bought the small upright with wheels from Greenworks and so far (4 cars later) I love it. Its 1.2gpm and 1500 psi. I havent tried the foam cannon yet with it but it doesnt seem much weaker than my old Husky 1700 1.5gpm PW.
 
d33p said:
The sunjoe hose is only 20ft and way too short for my liking but it is very flexible. Probably the best hose of any electric pw since it has no memory and will not curl up like those pvc type hoses.

At the same time, not having a hose reel is a pita so I bought a karcher.
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I agreed with you on all points. It's a PITA without the hosereel, 20ft is too short, the the quality of this hose is the same as the gas power PW. I had to move the PW a few times during the washing process.

That's the reason i went to Northerntool today to pick up a couple of the connectors to fit my 50ft gas power hoses so it can work w/ my Sunjoe. It hooked up perfect but have not tried it out yet. Maybe tomorrow.

But imo, Sunjoe got the best PSI/GPM for the under $200 electric PW.
 
Sunjoes specs seem like the best but take them with a grain of salt. Someone on Amazon actually tested it and its nowhere close to those numbers.

"Real life test shows your actually getting 1.176 GPM with the 40, 25, 15, 0, deg. Nozzle's, NOT 1.76"

"The SPX3000 unit rated pressure is 1450 from page 4 of the user manual."

PSI Pressure TEST SPX3000

Static Line Pressure 165 PSI avg.
no tip 0 PSI
Soaper 0 PSI
40 deg. 1250 PSI
25 deg. 1250 PSI
15 deg. 1275 PSI
0 deg. 1275 PSI


I still have the sunjoe along with the karcher but dont have a way to test the Karcher pressure in comparison or I would! If someone has a pressure gauge they want to lend me Ill do it.
 
d33p said:
Sunjoes specs seem like the best but take them with a grain of salt. Someone on Amazon actually tested it and its nowhere close to those numbers.

"Real life test shows your actually getting 1.176 GPM with the 40, 25, 15, 0, deg. Nozzle's, NOT 1.76"

"The SPX3000 unit rated pressure is 1450 from page 4 of the user manual."

PSI Pressure TEST SPX3000

Static Line Pressure 165 PSI avg.
no tip 0 PSI
Soaper 0 PSI
40 deg. 1250 PSI
25 deg. 1250 PSI
15 deg. 1275 PSI
0 deg. 1275 PSI


I still have the sunjoe along with the karcher but dont have a way to test the Karcher pressure in comparison or I would! If someone has a pressure gauge they want to lend me Ill do it.
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0 psi seems a bit impossible, doesn't it? The water wouldn't come out at all.

And what's the static line pressure, is that the water feeding the unit? Man that seems way, way too high for a home water feed. The plumber that replaced our water heater told me the incoming pressure to my house was 80psi, and that's higher than he usually ever sees. 165psi is insane.
 
I'm currently using a Greenworks 1500psi unit that I've had for a couple of years. It's a little finicky sometimes, but overall works. I upgraded the hose and got a Simpson 5/16" 50-foot with M22 connectors. Works great. It has no memory issues, doesn't kink, and is light weight.

I did try the Ryobi 1700 1.2 and the Ryobi 1500 1.2 machines recently. The smaller unit was a bit loud. The 1700 machine worked well, but after reading about the SunJoe SPX3000, I've decided to get that. I like the higher GPM rating.

Now I'm just waiting for it to go on sale again...
 
d33p said:
Sunjoes specs seem like the best but take them with a grain of salt. Someone on Amazon actually tested it and its nowhere close to those numbers.

"Real life test shows your actually getting 1.176 GPM with the 40, 25, 15, 0, deg. Nozzle's, NOT 1.76"

"The SPX3000 unit rated pressure is 1450 from page 4 of the user manual."

PSI Pressure TEST SPX3000

Static Line Pressure 165 PSI avg.
no tip 0 PSI
Soaper 0 PSI
40 deg. 1250 PSI
25 deg. 1250 PSI
15 deg. 1275 PSI
0 deg. 1275 PSI


I still have the sunjoe along with the karcher but dont have a way to test the Karcher pressure in comparison or I would! If someone has a pressure gauge they want to lend me Ill do it.
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So i tried to measure my Sunjoe PSI this morning and it's ~1200 PSI across all tips. That's alot less than i've expected. I know the acceptable difference is ~10%. I don't know how Sunjoe got their 2030PSI but it's very deceptive.

I am disappointed with the PSI output but i am still gonna use it because it work well for me.
 
SameGuy said:
I certainly hope a $200 tool would last more than a year!
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Well it depends what you're using it for. If it's for personal use and it only gets used 2 or 4 times a month I'd assume it's going to last a lot longer than a year.

But if you're using it 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, I think a year would be pretty decent.
 
:confused: My $200 Milwaukee drill is 20 years old and was used daily (commercially) for ten of those. It runs like the day I bought it. A $200 tool shouldn't be disposable. I'd hate to think it would be normal to have to buy a new DA every year if I were using it daily; that makes no sense! Why should a pressure washer be any different?
 
aim4squirrels said:
0 psi seems a bit impossible, doesn't it? The water wouldn't come out at all.

And what's the static line pressure, is that the water feeding the unit? Man that seems way, way too high for a home water feed. The plumber that replaced our water heater told me the incoming pressure to my house was 80psi, and that's higher than he usually ever sees. 165psi is insane.
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I've seen YouTube videos while looking for nozzles and guy tested his at 155+ psi. I assume these pressures are found more in country settings than suburbs.
 
snellvilleauto said:
So i tried to measure my Sunjoe PSI this morning and it's ~1200 PSI across all tips. That's alot less than i've expected. I know the acceptable difference is ~10%. I don't know how Sunjoe got their 2030PSI but it's very deceptive.

I am disappointed with the PSI output but i am still gonna use it because it work well for me.
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Yeah it's very deceptive and a crying shame to be honest.

What gauge/setup did you use? I'd love to test my karcher as a comparison.
 
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