The Autogeek Bucket, An In-House Design

Jaddie

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Dear Max & Autogeek

Please get busy on developing the true ultimate wash bucket. That's what Griot's calls its bucket, but simply by virtue of containing only a single chamber, it can't possibly be the ultimate wash bucket.

And a person just getting set up to wash his own cars at home can't fathom why your solution would cost US$120. To us it looks like two five-gallon buckets on casters with Grit Guards.

But you can create the ultimate wash bucket and even charge US$120 for it if you like. Just make it something that isn't available somewhere else.

I suggest making it in two sizes--one for rinseless washing (two-gallon and four-gallon chambers) and one for traditional washing (two four- or five-gallon chambers). Make it similar to the Griot's bucket, but give it two chambers--one for wash solution and one for rinsing. Develop your own Grit Guard-like mechanism molded right into the bucket itself. Plus, put another Grit Guard-like mechanism on the interior side of the rinse water chamber for washing brushes that won't fit down into a five-gallon bucket.

Design your mold so that an available small shelf or hanger can be attached and used to store wash media and/or spray bottles.

Put volume measurements on the sides of both chambers, preferably embossed with an attractive typeface.

Put the whole thing on sturdy casters, at least one of which is lockable.

And make the whole design sturdy enough so that an available lid can double as a seat, turning the entire product into a detailing chair.

Here's a suggested price structure for the rinseless-washing solution: US$99.95 for the bucket, US$139.95 for the bucket on casters, US$179.95 for the bucket on casters with a lid/seat, and US$199.95 for the bucket on casters with lid/seat and detachable shelf/hanger. The larger traditional, outdoor washing solution would be priced ten to twelve percent higher. The smaller bucket would have a feature the larger bucket doesn't--it'd consume less space in our garages.

Consult with artists in the design. The finished pieces should inspire detailers with a desire to use them, and should also inspire non-detailers with a desire to do their own detailing.

Sell the buckets. After twelve to eighteen months of having them on the market and collecting user feedback, design an updated version of the buckets and offer purchasers of the first buckets a thirty-five-percent discount off the new ones.

Additional ideas to consider for designing these buckets: integrated clips for electrical cord and/or water hose management; retractable hose reel; onboard storage; edges that won't damage a vehicle's paint if the bucket contacts it; and water deionization.
 
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Seems like a good idea to me.

Agreed on why on earth anybody would pay $120 for casters, grit guards, and buckets. But even the price structure you proposed is rediculous.
 
Seems like a good idea to me.

Agreed on why on earth anybody would pay $120 for casters, grit guards, and buckets. But even the price structure you proposed is rediculous.

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Sounds like your on to something if AG makes it great but maybe you should try to make it yourself and maybe get a patent and possibly somebody like AG will pick it up you sound like a smart guy you can do it I like to see it happen
 
I really could not justify for the life of me spending that kind of coin on a wash bucket. I think I will stick to my cheap white 5 gallon pails with grit guards.
 
I just looked at the Griots Ultimate Wash Bucket and its listed at $40. I wouldn't even pay that! Its far from "Ultimate"
 
Design your mold...

Stop right there. A mold of the size you are talking about will easily exceed $50,000, perhaps $100,000. The reason you don't think the Griot's is the "ultimate" bucket is because it isn't a car wash bucket at all, it's an institutional microfiber mop bucket, because there isn't enough volume in high-end car wash buckets to justify the tooling cost to make a dedicated one.
 
Additional ideas to consider for designing these buckets: integrated clips for electrical cord

That's exactly what I need...
The Wife ("now where did I put my copy of the will") is in agreement, also.


Bob
 
Dear Setec

I think you're probably right.

I recognized Griot's bucket as a sourced item, too.

But there might be enough volume in high-end car wash buckets if the designer could compete with Jonny Ive or Dieter Rams in industrial design.

After all, who'd pay US$400 for a lousy pocket-sized MP3 player?

I'd love to have the solution I proposed for a price less than I suggested.
 
Dear Bob

That's exactly what I need...
The Wife ("now where did I put my copy of the will") is in agreement, also.

Bob

Maybe this could be done safely. Maybe not. The idea is to keep the cord up instead of having the bucket rolling over it.
 
If I ever get my Industrial Design degree, or at least a job in the field, I will make this happen, as well as many other detailers' dream tools/products.
This is something that AG should look into doing before another detailing company hits it. Problem is, if it happens anytime soon it will probably be made in China.:( Only time will tell.
 
Truth be known...everything sold has a markup.otherwise..you are just giving it away. While some things are more easily "justify-able" as far as cost...the bottom line is not how much you spent on something, but rather how much is it worth to YOU. We all have a choice on where/what to buy..and I enjoy my two bucket wash/rinse system from AG. Did I pay too much?..no..because I use it..and I don't mind the extra expense because I am putting money back in a company/staff that I personally like and believe in.
 
Truth be known...everything sold has a markup.otherwise..you are just giving it away. While some things are more easily "justify-able" as far as cost...the bottom line is not how much you spent on something, but rather how much is it worth to YOU. We all have a choice on where/what to buy..and I enjoy my two bucket wash/rinse system from AG. Did I pay too much?..no..because I use it..and I don't mind the extra expense because I am putting money back in a company/staff that I personally like and believe in.

Well said!
 
I use 2 griots buckets. I like their design. Grit guard like grid on bottom. Higher grid to wipe my boars hair brush on before touching my paint. You can remove the upper one if you are using a wash mit.
 
I love my Griot's bucket, rolls easily, I can toss the wash mitt on the upper shelf when not using, don't feel like I have to have two buckets to drag around as I wash.

Ultimate, maybe not, but I'm perfectly happy with it.
 
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