Touchless Wash Routines - No Contact Wash

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It's almost 2024 so revisiting the topic, process or mainly product availability

On the pro side, I am aware there are true touchless products.
For the mobile guys who do trailer cabs, etc - where they employ full acid:alkaline combos, hot:neutralize, etc for their washing setup.

On the pro-sumer side, enthusiast side (and I get this question may be region:location) specific or even how ones *water* plays a role in the product.
I know many here have raved about BH and I plan to try this again. I tried it back with Auto Foam and wasn't impressed. Maybe their touch less is truly touchless.

Do you have a specific product you use in your wash regimen that achieved a true *touchless wash* - zero contact wash needed ?
 
chefwong said:
It's almost 2024 so revisiting the topic, process or mainly product availability

On the pro side, I am aware there are true touchless products.
For the mobile guys who do trailer cabs, etc - where they employ full acid:alkaline combos, hot:neutralize, etc for their washing setup.

On the pro-super side, enthusiast side (and I get this question may be region:location) specific or even how ones *water* plays a role in the product.
I know many here have raved about BH and I plan to try this again. I tried it back with Auto Foam and wasn't impressed. Maybe their touch less is truly touchless.

Do you have a specific product you use in your wash regimen that achieved a true *touchless wash* - zero contact wash needed ?
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I personally have never seen anything intended for auto paint that will achieve a true touchless wash on a TRULY DIRTY car

I am talking real world winter crap, not YouTube "Look at my new miracle product that got this slightly dusty car clean" dirty

If the super high alkaline soap with heated water at higher than pressure washer pressure at the 25 cent carwash won't cut real road grime WITHOUT AGITATION, then I am not sure what will

I have never been around any commercial truck washes but I understand the chemicals they use, coupled with almost steam cleaning temps and pressure will clean a big rig but fellow high end RV owners that I talked to when we were on the road said they were TOO harsh for the paint on their luxury coaches and were sorry they tried it

That's not something I would ever attempt on my car paint

True touchless cleaning is kind of a holy grail I think
 
I totally agree that some kind of contact wash is necessary to get a car truly clean. Imagine if you have some really dirty dishes in your sink. If you spray a dirty dish with some soap and water, it will remove some of the food particles and stains. But to actually get a dish clean, you gotta get in there with a sponge and make contact with it. IMO, same thing applies to a car.
 
You can only get away with touchless or semi touchless if you have very little traffic film and a real good coat of LSP. If you have more, you need the mitts
 
:iagree: No miracle product here. To properly clean a vehicle, you need AGITATION..
 
"Touchless wash" is a falsehood that doesn't exist. If it isn't being touched it isn't being cleaned. The difference of rinsing a used dinner plate off and putting it back in the cupboard versus actually scrubbing it and then putting it back.

That said, there are ways to rinse your car off more efficiently than others. Chemicals and water pressure helps. But I would never call it a "wash".
 
Agree, you need to get a wash pad of some sort on the car, if you want it to be truly clean. I do, however, like the idea of using something stronger than PH nuetral snow foam to get a great deal of debris off BEFORE you put your hands on it.
 
joebruin77 said:
I totally agree that some kind of contact wash is necessary to get a car truly clean. Imagine if you have some really dirty dishes in your sink. If you spray a dirty dish with some soap and water, it will remove some of the food particles and stains. But to actually get a dish clean, you gotta get in there with a sponge and make contact with it. IMO, same thing applies to a car.
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i want your kitchen dishwasher, mine cleans dishes with soap and water only, no mechanical scrubbing arms crawling over the pile of stacked dishes inside

I'm being a clown, but technically dishes can be cleaned with spray and soap only.....i'm with you though....when it comes to cars, as a prewash, I'm a big fan of touchless washes, but then you have really wash it :)
 
Lance Mark said:
i want your kitchen dishwasher, mine cleans dishes with soap and water only, no mechanical scrubbing arms crawling over the pile of stacked dishes inside

I'm being a clown, but technically dishes can be cleaned with spray and soap only.....i'm with you though....when it comes to cars, as a prewash, I'm a big fan of touchless washes, but then you have really wash it :)
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You forgot extreme heat in dish washer.

I would say best way is to try and do touchless would need a high dollar steamer there is one on a video I saw used with ONR.

I would say pretreat with Bilt Hamber AutoFoam and than steam of with ONR. Then rinse.


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I just re-visited DW UK - pre-foam sub forum. Alot of thread:conversation drop-off, akin I suppose to AGO:Autopia as like

Back in the day, there was threads over threads on various pre foams, on pretty filthy cars showing extreme before and after, and most of the gist was fairly touchless, with maybe a MF followup on some stubborn spots. They were taking makeup wipes post rinse just to show nil-none remained on paint.

I cannot recall but a good percentage of these products left zero TRF on the paint. I did end up importing all these and I chalked it up that maybe.....the product may work well *over the pond* as it's formulated for however their water is over there and it just simply did not perform well for me here simply because it just doesn't interact with the water quality of what was coming out of my tap......

Polishing, LSP aside - the most used product and process in my routine is shampoo and washing (weekly and sometimes bi-tri weekly) :laughing:
 
chefwong said:
I just re-visited DW UK - pre-foam sub forum. Alot of thread:conversation drop-off, akin I suppose to AGO:Autopia as like

Back in the day, there was threads over threads on various pre foams, on pretty filthy cars showing extreme before and after, and most of the gist was fairly touchless, with maybe a MF followup on some stubborn spots. They were taking makeup wipes post rinse just to show nil-none remained on paint.

I cannot recall but a good percentage of these products left zero TRF on the paint. I did end up importing all these and I chalked it up that maybe.....the product may work well *over the pond* as it's formulated for however their water is over there and it just simply did not perform well for me here simply because it just doesn't interact with the water quality of what was coming out of my tap......

Polishing, LSP aside - the most used product and process in my routine is shampoo and washing (weekly and sometimes bi-tri weekly) :laughing:
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I am one of those people that firmly believes that the water we use to mix and dilute the products we use can and does make all the difference in the world in how efficacious the products are

I also think when you have geographic differences as extreme as you are quoting it could also come down to just what is on the roads over there vs over here that makes up the TRF deposits

How strict are they on cars that leak oil, ATF, etc that builds up on the roads and breaks down the asphalt and contributes to TRF

Just the sheer volume of vehicles here and the higher number of miles per year that Americans tend to drive has to come into play on how bad TRF can be here

That may sound extreme but it would help explain why something works over there and not over here

In Alaska all roads that are paved are asphalt instead of the concrete roads you can find in the southern part of the US and that's automatically got to make TRF way worse

Just thinking out loud here because my experience with BH Auto Foam was not life changing in the least
 
Water is Huge...

IME, when using the same products in House A vs House B, I can tell how even something as simple as a bucket of Shampoo is different, just merely due to H20
 
chilly said:
I am one of those people that firmly believes that the water we use to mix and dilute the products we use can and does make all the difference in the world in how efficacious the products are

I also think when you have geographic differences as extreme as you are quoting it could also come down to just what is on the roads over there vs over here that makes up the TRF deposits

How strict are they on cars that leak oil, ATF, etc that builds up on the roads and breaks down the asphalt and contributes to TRF

Just the sheer volume of vehicles here and the higher number of miles per year that Americans tend to drive has to come into play on how bad TRF can be here

That may sound extreme but it would help explain why something works over there and not over here

In Alaska all roads that are paved are asphalt instead of the concrete roads you can find in the southern part of the US and that's automatically got to make TRF way worse

Just thinking out loud here because my experience with BH Auto Foam was not life changing in the least
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I’ve been preaching this forever and especially with some hard headed folks on DW. My outcomes are my truths…. How things come out for me.

There would be some arguments on how some products performed when truth is they were both telling the truth.

Most likely things like water hardness, minerals and whatnot in rain. What constitutes our traffic film, air pollution,our paint.…. So many different things can affect it


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