Used Griot’s Garage Brilliant Shine Car Wash today-as a rinseless wash

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...and it worked great. Can someone shed light on what the make up of a car wash is that qualifies it as a rinseless wash?

My vehicle is my daily driver which is a silver 2004 Sienna that has just had iron remover, clay barred, and McKees37 AIO last week. I do this 2 times a year. I had skipped the top last week so did the top today, then applied pinnacle glass coating. I was tired and said what the heck, car is clean let’s go rinseless.

All of the was done after detailing exterior only my wife’s black MDX and full detail of my brothers Ford ranger...I was tired!

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Interesting. I love GG Brilliant Shine, but I have never thought of using it as a RW.

What was your dilution ratio?
 
Wait...their pink carwash soap as a RW I have their Brillant Shine rinseless wash which comes in the same bottle but is blue and is their actual RW

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Klasse Act said:
Wait...their pink carwash soap as a RW I have their Brillant Shine rinseless wash which comes in the same bottle but is blue and is their actual RW

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Yeah I know. I picked it up locally yesterday because the parts guy gave it to me for $5. Can’t beat that. I would like to see the ingredients list to actually see the difference with the RW.


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robwoodgto said:
Yeah I know. I picked it up locally yesterday because the parts guy gave it to me for $5. Can’t beat that. I would like to see the ingredients list to actually see the difference with the RW.


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It's not formulated to be a RW, it's a regular carwash soap with some protection in it. If you use their actual RW you'll be amazed at how it works

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Well I know this, RW and WW aren't regular soaps, it's more of a chemical that lifts the dirt and brings it to the surface to be wiped away....cleanly

I suspect one of our respected smart people, like The Guz, will come in here and explain it for you/us

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Thank you guys, really appreciate the kind words

The only "soap" I've seen used as a RW or WW was P&S Pearl and even after watching that video on YouTube I wasn't convinced. This is one instance where you can't be all things to all people. Sure, most RW and WW can be used as the other but not carwash soap, I mean it's made to foam and to be washed away, right

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My understanding of the difference between a rinseless and a standard wash is - A standard wash uses detergents/surfactants/etc that need to be washed away with water so none of that is left behind.
By simply wiping it off, you run the risk of those detergents still remaining on the surface either waiting to be re-activated by water (rain?), or working to clog your LSP’s behaviors.

I’d think there’s also the chance that, like if you use too much shampoo in a carpet and don’t get it out, those detergents left behind could actually act to attract dirt as their primary goal is to seek out dirt. Now instead of lifting the dirt from your paint to be flushed away, they’re holding onto dirt from the environment and sticking it to your paint.

Like Klasse said - A rinseless or waterless product is designed to loosen the dirt’s bond to your paint and act as a lubricant to allow it to be safely wiped away. As part of their lubrication, instead of leaving detergents they’re leaving more of an LSP behind (or just using witchcraft if it’s a leave-nothing RW :laughing: ).

I’m no scientist nor expert, but this is my take on the difference between the two.
 
oneheadlite said:
My understanding of the difference between a rinseless and a standard wash is - A standard wash uses detergents/surfactants/etc that need to be washed away with water so none of that is left behind.
By simply wiping it off, you run the risk of those detergents still remaining on the surface either waiting to be re-activated by water (rain?), or working to clog your LSP’s behaviors.

I’d think there’s also the chance that, like if you use too much shampoo in a carpet and don’t get it out, those detergents left behind could actually act to attract dirt as their primary goal is to seek out dirt. Now instead of lifting the dirt from your paint to be flushed away, they’re holding onto dirt from the environment and sticking it to your paint.

Like Klasse said - A rinseless or waterless product is designed to loosen the dirt’s bond to your paint and act as a lubricant to allow it to be safely wiped away. As part of their lubrication, instead of leaving detergents they’re leaving more of an LSP behind (or just using witchcraft if it’s a leave-nothing RW :laughing: ).

I’m no scientist nor expert, but this is my take on the difference between the two.
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You are oooooooh so right. I got to looking at the ingredients for the two gg products (car wash and RW) and it definitely looks like the RW uses additional surfactants and alcohols to remove the product from the surface of the vehicle. I also did a test on one door and the front bumper my wife’s MDX because I needed to do some work to it in those places and with it being black I could tell the car wash didn’t wipe 100% off but when I sprayed the 914 as a quick detailer then wiped the car wash off it worked great.

But, I’m gonna use the gg car wash as a car wash and buy a RW for the purpose of a rinseless wash. No need for off label use here when there are a few great RW products to choose from.


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PaulMys said:
Lol

And no streaking when drying?
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It did not appear to streak, but when I used this method to wash one door and the front bumper of wife’s black MDX i could see that it did streak but I tried it again but sprayed 914 as a qd/drying aid it wiped off with no streaking. My main point here was just to state in a pinch and you had to do a RW I believe it could be done with the BS CW. But, I will be getting some of GG RW because there really is no need for off label use here.

Another point to be made here is before coming to this forum I would have never attempted to do this much less wet sand the front bumper of my wife’s black MDX then compound/polish to try and clean up the results of what baked on etched in bug remains leave in plastic that was never attended to with previous owner. Thanks to all of you!
 
Rinseless washes are low to no suds. I think the suds is what gets left behind in a traditional wash.
 
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