Using Meguiars Wheel Brightener to decontaminate Rail Dust?

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I've heard from someone purchasing detailing products at my local supplier state that you can use meguiars wheel brightener to remove rail dust on paint of cars, is there any truth to this?

I've used this product over the past year for when it comes the need to use such an aggressive product if the wheels are caked with built up brake dust and know all the precautions and warnings with how aggressive this product is just curious to this statement I heard before I even think of growing the balls to attempt spraying it on paint of a vehicle lol
 
Lotsa wheels are painted though... but I wouldnt use it on my paint. IRON-X and clay also work on rail dust and that is what they are made for.
 
I have clay, along with the nanoscrub medium and fine wash mitts, I posted on this strictly out of curiosity
 
It should work as paint is clear coated just like the wheels. However, I wouldn't recommend the use of Wheel Brightener as it is not the safest product out there. It contains Ammonium Bifluoride which results in Hydrofluoric acid when put into solution with water.

Here are the hazards from the MSDS of ABF:
"Potential Acute Health Effects:
Extremely hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of eye contact (irritant), of ingestion, of inhalation. Very hazardous
in case of skin contact (corrosive). Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (permeator). The amount of tissue damage
depends on length of contact. Eye contact can result in corneal damage or blindness. Skin contact can produce inflammation
and blistering. Inhalation of dust will produce irritation to gastro-intestinal or respiratory tract, characterized by burning,
sneezing and coughing. Severe over-exposure can produce lung damage, choking, unconsciousness or death. Inflammation
of the eye is characterized by redness, watering, and itching. Skin inflammation is characterized by itching, scaling, reddening,
or, occasionally, blistering."
 
You can use WB on anyone's cars paint - except mine. Seriously though, do not use that stuff on paint. The factory "paint"/powder coating on wheels is much more durable/harder than the paint on the car body. It's not just all "the same paint". Not to mention WB may stain or mess up any trim it comes in contact with.


Use IronX & clay to remove rail dust on paint safely.
 
mark98xlt said:
I've heard from someone purchasing detailing products at my local supplier state that you can use meguiars wheel brightener to remove rail dust on paint of cars, is there any truth to this?

I've used this product over the past year for when it comes the need to use such an aggressive product if the wheels are caked with built up brake dust and know all the precautions and warnings with how aggressive this product is just curious to this statement I heard before I even think of growing the balls to attempt spraying it on paint of a vehicle lol
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:wow: ...What a whim to read, first thing on a Monday morn!!

I've often wondered what the phrase:
"partial alienation of reason", was all about.
That is no longer the case.

And there are those that say I suffer from
occasional aberrations of intellect...HA!

Bob
 
WB can damage paint and can certainly damage wheels. I used it starting out and have since turned from my wicked ways. Use WB long enough and you'll damage something, yourself included. With all that risk, it still won't work as well as Iron X. It just doesn't make any sense at all.

WB is THE most unpredictable product I have ever used in detailing. It can cause streaks, haze, remove center cap paint from wheels, damage caliper paint, etc, etc, etc. I never used this product on an expensive car, only on very cheap dealer cars...and even then I'm not sure it was worth the risk.

I have gone down the same path you are going down. Don't go down that path.

Acids, in general, are not safe for detailing and HF is the WORST.


There are a few applications where acid may be necessary in detailing (rarely), but HF is almost always a poor choice. There are better "safer" acids.
 
FUNX725 said:
:wow: ...What a whim to read, first thing on a Monday morn!!

I've often wondered what the phrase:
"partial alienation of reason", was all about.
That is no longer the case.

And there are those that say I suffer from
occasional aberrations of intellect...HA!

Bob
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It wasn't my intention to use the product in this manner, I was mostly curious about the statement I heard to see if it was true, hence why I came on here to ask as you guys would hopefully debunk the truth to the statement I expected to hear from you
 
mark98xlt said:
It wasn't my intention to use the product in this manner, I was mostly curious about the statement I heard to see if it was true, hence why I came on here to ask as you guys would hopefully debunk the truth to the statement I expected to hear from you
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Is there truth in that statement? Yes, WB can absolutely remove rail dust, and I'm sure it's done by some people. With the exception of the OP in one recently closed thread, I don't think anyone here would do such a thing, too risky. It can also be used to remove waterspots.

But in both cases, it's like using a axe for open heart surgery; sure an axe can be used to open someone's chest, but stick with the scalpel (Iron-X) for less collateral damage.
 
mark98xlt said:
It wasn't my intention to use the product in this manner, I was mostly curious about the statement I heard to see if it was true, hence why I came on here to ask as you guys would hopefully debunk the truth to the statement
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I'm glad you had no intentions of using Meguiar's D140...
And: I don't believe I said anything to the contrary.

mark98xlt said:
I expected to hear from you
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I'm glad I didn't disappoint...
But why is that?


Bob
 
Sorry, didn't mean to go off the charts or offend anybody. That product is just a nightmare.
 
FUNX725 said:
I'm glad you had no intentions of using Meguiar's D140...
And: I don't believe I said anything to the contrary.


I'm glad I didn't disappoint...
But why is that?


Bob
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I meant the whole forums opinion, not specifically yours I replied that quickly at work and worded it wrong
 
hello,

I just found that Meguiars Wheel Brightener is the best to remove water spots on paint and windows !
Your trick worked ! after buying all the useless Meguiars products to remove water spots, I found videos explaining that what works best is the Wheel Brightener. I feel cheated to have used and waster time on anything else, you should be more honest and clearly tell that your Wheel Brightener is what will work best for anybody with water spots problem on car paint and windows !
 
statusdetailing said:
WB can damage paint and can certainly damage wheels. I used it starting out and have since turned from my wicked ways. Use WB long enough and you'll damage something, yourself included. With all that risk, it still won't work as well as Iron X. It just doesn't make any sense at all.

WB is THE most unpredictable product I have ever used in detailing. It can cause streaks, haze, remove center cap paint from wheels, damage caliper paint, etc, etc, etc. I never used this product on an expensive car, only on very cheap dealer cars...and even then I'm not sure it was worth the risk.

I have gone down the same path you are going down. Don't go down that path.

Acids, in general, are not safe for detailing and HF is the WORST.


There are a few applications where acid may be necessary in detailing (rarely), but HF is almost always a poor choice. There are better "safer" acids.
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So maybe you consider idiots people using it on a Ferrari car paint water spot !

Why people talking about car detailing cannot be honest ? All people saying that something does not work or is dangerous are just ridiculous, or maybe paid by brands to keep repeating the same lies over and over !
 
Sorry to disappoint you but you're talking to the wind. The guy posted that 6 years ago and I haven't seen him post here in a long time.

Oh, and most of what he posted is considered by many to be correct.
 
benzw205 said:
So maybe you consider idiots people using it on a Ferrari car paint water spot !

Why people talking about car detailing cannot be honest ? All people saying that something does not work or is dangerous are just ridiculous, or maybe paid by brands to keep repeating the same lies over and over !
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You mean Darren from Auto Fetish and that video he posted a long time ago using Wheel Brightener on that Ferrari paint to remove water spots right? Idiot? Not me, I consider him 1 of the best detailers out there and 1 of the best sources of great info you’ll find on youtube. That’s a man who spreaks from actual experience unlike alot of these Jonny come Lately guys who regurgitate whatevers on every label and are mostly in it for views and financial gain. There’s a huge difference between those 2 types of people... With only 1 being worthy of being called an actual detailer.

I’ve learned alot from watching Darrens vids including that related video where he uses Wheel Brightener on the intricate grills of many vehicles. I’ve met him in real life and he’s a stand up guy just like you’d expect.
 
ducksfan said:
Sorry to disappoint you but you're talking to the wind. The guy posted that 6 years ago and I haven't seen him post here in a long time.

Oh, and most of what he posted is considered by many to be correct.
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As far as the 2nd part of your post... We certainly aren’t getting paid to follow any certain narrative.

However alot of people, not calling anyone out in particular, but in general it would seem that most people would either fall into looking like either being guilty of label regurgitation [aka many on youtube] or I guess you could call them “ridiculous”

I’ll give an example... As far as Wheel Brightener on paint, it’s safe. I know its safe because I’ve used it to remove water spots before and caused zero harm. OEM wheels are clear coated... We all know this. Somehow people seem to throw out these glaring facts to condemn a certain product because of the fear factor that seems to occur whenever the word “acid” walks into the room. It’s ridiculous.

Oh and I almost forgot to mention this... An official preacher of detailing gospel has a somewhat recent video available on their channel [the rag company] where they test all these boutique water spot removers and they also include a good old acid based wheel cleaner. The test is on the paint of a dark blue vehicle. The results clearly showed the acid based wheel cleaner blow away every single dedicated water spot remover they tested. Just like most people could’ve predicted because anyone who’s used something like Carpro Spotless knows there’s no way in hell it’ll ever remeove any real water spots when you really need it to.

Even they themselves had to chuckle at what a wide margin of victory there was between the acid based wheel cleaner and all of the rest of the dedicated products. So there it is there. Of course Wheel Brightener works on car paint to remove water spots. And does it safely too.
 
Eldorado2k said:
So there it is there. Of course Wheel Brightener works on car paint to remove water spots. And does it safely too.
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I would add one note of caution - do not get it on aluminum trim. When I was in the decorative aluminum trim 'biz with The General, we used ammonium bifluoride solution to etch the moldings before anodizing.
 
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