Water based tire shine only on white cars

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On a few Jeep forums I frequent I have read that guys are complaining about what looks like little rust spots popping up here and there. A lot of guys are blaming it on using non water based tire shine. I haven't had this issue with my white Jeep SRT yet but did get it on my white 300 pretty bad. Thoughts???
 
•Many tire dressings that sling...they'll stain the painted-areas upon which they have been slung, and left unattended for awhile.

•On "White" cars that staining will often appear, more or less: brown-ish yellow in color. This type of staining is nearly impossible to remove. And it's not covered under any OEM paint warranties.

•Is it a possibility that these slung tire dressings have "eaten their way" through the different paint, primer, and e-coat films...to effect a rusting-occurrence? :dunno:


Bob
 
Shawn1112 said:
On a few Jeep forums I frequent I have read that guys are complaining about what looks like little rust spots popping up here and there. A lot of guys are blaming it on using non water based tire shine. I haven't had this issue with my white Jeep SRT yet but did get it on my white 300 pretty bad. Thoughts???
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You mean like this?



Wasn't tire shine that did this.
 
@dave ...How long did it take to build that up?

I get some on my car, but just the odd dot here or there. Usually notice it most when I clay every spring before bringing the car out. Clay bar does remove it.
I always thought it was sap or something kicked up off the road.

fapatalk
 
I'm an off road Jeeper. Most Jeepers don't use tire shine at all due dust and dirt sticking to the tire as well as the shape of Jeeps being prone to sling. My advice is to use a tire coating that cures dry. I have stopped using wet tire shine dressing of any kind. The acrylic coating I use cures dry and lasts for months. It also doesn't collect dust/dirt and easily cleaned with auto shampoo when washing.
 
Sounds like brake dust or rail dust fallout contamination to me. Its so obvious on white car with the rust colored spots that you would think that it would be visible on other light colors.
 
Shawn1112 said:
Not anywhere near as bad as that
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SyntheticAtmosp said:
@dave ...How long did it take to build that up?

I get some on my car, but just the odd dot here or there. Usually notice it most when I clay every spring before bringing the car out. Clay bar does remove it.
I always thought it was sap or something kicked up off the road.

fapatalk
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It was a facetious post, which probably doesn't contribute much to the topic, sorry I couldn't help myself.

The photo was of one of the commercial vans I worked on where the driver/maintenance crew had allowed the front brakes to go metal to metal and drove it that way for over a week before having the pads, calipers and rotors replaced.

It was repaired and put back into service and driven as usual without ever being washed or protected as they are usually treated this way. It probably got to me a few years after this brake / maintenance failure incidence, so it took some time to get that way.

After a caustic wash, followed by a wheel acid wash and another caustic / carwash concentrate wash the paint was white as the driven snow and shining like a new paint job again.

That was probably a little too severe for Iron-X but it was definitely lots and lots of ferrous metal contaminates combined with outright neglect that caused it.
 
Shawn1112 said:
On a few Jeep forums I frequent I have read that guys are complaining about what looks like little rust spots popping up here and there. A lot of guys are blaming it on using non water based tire shine. I haven't had this issue with my white Jeep SRT yet but did get it on my white 300 pretty bad. Thoughts???
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I think I've seen those threads.

It's the hot brake particles embedding themselves into your clear coat, then rusting.

If I didn't chime in those threads, an Iron dissovler, like Iron-x, is needed, probably followed with claying, polishing and sealing.

Next step, buying better pads. My wife's white Cadillac is covered on the lower half and liftgate pretty bad. Her pads will be changed just because of how much of this it accumulates.


Smitty4x4 said:
I'm an off road Jeeper. Most Jeepers don't use tire shine at all due dust and dirt sticking to the tire as well as the shape of Jeeps being prone to sling. My advice is to use a tire coating that cures dry. I have stopped using wet tire shine dressing of any kind. The acrylic coating I use cures dry and lasts for months. It also doesn't collect dust/dirt and easily cleaned with auto shampoo when washing.
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Most SRT's don't play in the dirt ;)

But these Brembos kick out some serious brake dust!
 
Haha funny you say that. The brake dust from stock pads was horrendous. I just changed over to Hawks on fronts and Stop Tech on rears last week. My rims are still clean a week later. Where with the stock pads my front rims were caked in brake dust within a few hours
 
Shawn1112 said:
On a few Jeep forums I frequent I have read that guys are complaining about what looks like little rust spots popping up here and there. A lot of guys are blaming it on using non water based tire shine. I haven't had this issue with my white Jeep SRT yet but did get it on my white 300 pretty bad. Thoughts???
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Rusts spots are from iron deposits. They either come from the brake rotor/pads or the environment. They have nothing to do with "tire shine".

That being said, I always use a water based dressing (when I use a dressing), because the slimy silicone type are just a PIA to remove (clean) from the tires later and look bad IMHO.

Most tire dressings advertised as "long lasting" (or similar) are of this ilk. While they may last a bit longer, they hold onto a ton of road filth and turn the sidewalls of the tire into slime.

For a DD, skip all these products and look into Tuff Shine.

If it's coming from the brakes, you will know it because the wheels will be filthy. Switch to ceramic pads.
 
Ha ha. Yeah I know. I was referring it to the overall shape of the Jeep and similarly shaped vehicles being prone to the tires slinging dressings and road grime on to the sides. Cars tend to have more enveloping wheel wells. The SRT may be lower but with the wider tires, you are back into the sling problem. As other posters have mentioned the metal from the brakes gets slung and adhered to the sides by the dressing. I didn't really think you were an avid back country trekker. ;)
 
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