Water sheeting
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A4 1.8tqm
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Autoglym HD is my favorite wax regarding sheeting properties, it is pretty durable to. I demonstrate this wax's ability to sheet water in my thread by the same name, http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/24234-water-sheeting.html
I've heard people say that carnauba waxes tend to be more resistant to water spots than sealants. I believe it, but haven't tested the theory. Maybe I'll do a 50/50 of Wolfgang Fuzion vs. DGPS 3.0 on my trunk lid and see if there is a noticeable difference and go from there.
I've heard people say that carnauba waxes tend to be more resistant to water spots than sealants. I believe it, but haven't tested the theory. Maybe I'll do a 50/50 of Wolfgang Fuzion vs. DGPS 3.0 on my trunk lid and see if there is a noticeable difference and go from there.
It doesn't look like AG sells Autoglym....too bad. For my daily driver I may have to start using a wax that sheets and doesn't bead.
I may test that theory too..........I used DP sealant to seal the car and after each wash I go over it with Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax. I've been waiting to try my Pinnacle SSII, looks like I have a reason to now.
I may test that theory too..........I used DP sealant to seal the car and after each wash I go over it with Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax. I've been waiting to try my Pinnacle SSII, looks like I have a reason to now.
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I would prefer to keep my business with AG. So if there is something similar, please let me know. I am using Klassey Sealant with a topping of Pinnical Sov
I hear ya man, I would prefer to buy only from AG myself, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Perhaps someone from AG can chime in on this and let us know if they sell any waxes that sheets water and doesn't bead.
To tell you the truth, the beading doesn't bother me too much, I kinda enjoy it. But after it dries I do get spots and it doesn't look good. I guess the obvious answer would be to wash it after a rain, but I like to wash on my own schedule, not mother nature's. So I'll probably move to a sheeting wax after I use up my current stash.
To tell you the truth, the beading doesn't bother me too much, I kinda enjoy it. But after it dries I do get spots and it doesn't look good. I guess the obvious answer would be to wash it after a rain, but I like to wash on my own schedule, not mother nature's. So I'll probably move to a sheeting wax after I use up my current stash.
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From a behind the scenes point of view...
You can explain all day long about the benefits of water sheeting as compared to water beading but at the end of the day people want to see water bead up, that is the visual sign to the average person and even online enthusiasts that the paint is protected.
A chemist once told me that the best protecting ingredients don't actually bead water very well and that when used the formula has to be modified to make water bead merely for perception value.
You can explain all day long about the benefits of water sheeting as compared to water beading but at the end of the day people want to see water bead up, that is the visual sign to the average person and even online enthusiasts that the paint is protected.
A chemist once told me that the best protecting ingredients don't actually bead water very well and that when used the formula has to be modified to make water bead merely for perception value.
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From a behind the scenes point of view...
You can explain all day long about the benefits of water sheeting as compared to water beading but at the end of the day people want to see water bead up, that is the visual sign to the average person and even online enthusiasts that the paint is protected.
A chemist once told me that the best protecting ingredients don't actually bead water very well and that when used the formula has to be modified to make water bead merely for perception value.
Well, if you have any info on the best water sheathing product. I will gladly buy some to try it
rops:Well, if you have any info on the best water sheathing product. I will gladly buy some to try it
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I'm new at this so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but, I can see that water will sheet if using a hose but when it rains, wont the water not have the tendency to sheet ( but bead) because it's falling on the paint at a slower rate & there's not enough weight in a drop of water to run-off?
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Well I think that the cause of the beading is the chemical composition of the product that is used on the vehicle. The reason water beads is because it does not adhere well to the wax on the surface of the car, and thus it adheres stronger to itself than to the wax. This causes the water to form a spherical shape...a spherical shape produces the least amount of contact of the water with the vehicle and the greatest amount of contact of the water molecules with each other.
It's not so much about weight of the water, but the speed of the water that causes it to slide over a vehicle when sprayed from a hose.
Anyway, point is that it all has to do with the chemical properties of the products that are put on the vehicle which modifies the surface tension between the water and the vehicle. There are likely some well known chemicals that can be added to the composition to change the surface tension.
A4 1.8tqm
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To clarify, in my own opinion and experience it isn't a matter of a wax having only the characteristic of sheeting or only beading.
Personally, when looking for a products ability to "sheet water" I simply look for the speed that it sheets and that it does not leave tiny drops of water behind, leaving the cars surface absolutely dry. Of course it will bead in the rain, and I do like the way beading looks. I just want the water to run off the surface as easily and fast as possible. A great trait for final rise, blow drying and rainy Seattle weather. If the beads run off the surface they can't leave a water spot, plus it takes light dust with it. Like driving in the rain after a fresh waxing with a "good sheeting wax", if it stops raining before I get home, when I pull into the garage my car's paint will be nearly dry (and pretty clean) save right behind the wheels and the face of the trunk, that's what I want...
A hydrophobic-like surface that repels water to whatever level possible, sheeting with a smooth flow of water is simply the best way to test for these desirable traits. Autoglym HD is just a readily available OTC product that I found to have good sheeting, I don't want to take away from AG's business.
Just my two cents.
Personally, when looking for a products ability to "sheet water" I simply look for the speed that it sheets and that it does not leave tiny drops of water behind, leaving the cars surface absolutely dry. Of course it will bead in the rain, and I do like the way beading looks. I just want the water to run off the surface as easily and fast as possible. A great trait for final rise, blow drying and rainy Seattle weather. If the beads run off the surface they can't leave a water spot, plus it takes light dust with it. Like driving in the rain after a fresh waxing with a "good sheeting wax", if it stops raining before I get home, when I pull into the garage my car's paint will be nearly dry (and pretty clean) save right behind the wheels and the face of the trunk, that's what I want...
A hydrophobic-like surface that repels water to whatever level possible, sheeting with a smooth flow of water is simply the best way to test for these desirable traits. Autoglym HD is just a readily available OTC product that I found to have good sheeting, I don't want to take away from AG's business.
Just my two cents.
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