Water spots from si02 wash on ceramic coating!?!

[MountainBound]

Hello all. My 4Runner is coated with Wolfgang's Profi ceramic coating. I decided to do a simple hand wash today and used Wolfgang's uber sio2 soap which I've used before. I waited until our driveway was shaded as we live in Colorado and the lack of humidity makes washing vehicles impossible in sunlight. The vehicles paint was cool as it had been sitting in the garage all morning. As I'm drying it off I notice water spots all over it, most noticeably on the glass but I have spots all over the plastic trim and painted body panels too. I've tried stoner window cleaner and si02 detail spray with no luck. Any recommendations on what to try next? The vehicle is coated with Wolfgang profi ceramic coating. Thank you for your time!

Edit. I've also tried rewashing the vehicle in the garage and distilled white vinegar with no luck

 

[Rsurfer]

I doubt if the soap did the water spotting. Did you keep the car wet while rinsing? Another reason could be it was already there before washing.

Try a water spot remover made for ceramic coatings. Car Pro makes one called Spotless.

 

[MountainBound]

I doubt if the soap did the water spotting. Did you keep the car wet while rinsing? Another reason could be it was already there before washing.

Try a water spot remover made for ceramic coatings. Car Pro makes one called Spotless.

Definitely weren't there prior to washing. Yes, kept the paint wet as I could, it can be a challenge here in Colorado as water basically evaporate immediately. I worked fast and immediately pulled it in the garage. I'll check out the carpro suggestion.

 

[The Guz]

Try a panel wipe on them. Those water spot removers can kill the hydrophobic water behavior. Perhaps even try vinegar and water and see if that does anything.

 

[MountainBound]

Try a panel wipe on them. Those water spot removers can kill the hydrophobic water behavior. Perhaps even try vinegar and water and see if that does anything.

I had some wolfgang paint prep that came in the profi ceramic kit I tried and no luck. I just tried distilled vinegar with no results as well

 

[DMiglio]

Might seem crazy, but try washing those areas again with the Si02 wash. Just playing on the idea of “like dissolves like.”

Possibly wash and dry section by section? Or mix up as a waterless wash with distilled water and very small amount of product, spray on, rinse off and dry?

 

[MountainBound]

Might seem crazy, but try washing those areas again with the Si02 wash. Just playing on the idea of “like dissolves like.”

Possibly wash and dry section by section? Or mix up as a waterless wash with distilled water and very small amount of product, spray on, rinse off and dry?

I actually tried re-washing the whole vehicle in the garage using the sio2 wash with no results. Very frustrating.

 

[The Guz]

How about undiluted wash on a damp towel?

Last resort is to polish and recoat those areas.

 

[fly07sti]

I have run into this with Hydrofoam from CarPro. Had it happen on a few different vehicles also. All vehicles were cool and rinsed very well. After a couple washes with Reset, the spots/smears are gone.

 

[MountainBound]

How about undiluted wash on a damp towel?

Last resort is to polish and recoat those areas.

I’ll give that a try. Yea trying to avoid doing any polish or re-coating. Seems like so much time down the drain.

I have run into this with Hydrofoam from CarPro. Had it happen on a few different vehicles also. All vehicles were cool and rinsed very well. After a couple washes with Reset, the spots/smears are gone.

Interesting. It’s like the sio2 in the wash stains on the coating.

I took a couple more pics. You can really see it in the shade. I made a little progress with it. I tried some distilled vinegar and a mf towel but had to put a ton of pressure and basically buff the spots out. I even noticed I had some soap on the driveway from when the bottle tipped over and rolled. I used a coarse brush to scrub the spots but they are even still there. Looks almost like oil drips.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Hello all.

My 4Runner is coated with Wolfgang's Profi ceramic coating. I decided to do a simple hand wash today and used Wolfgang's uber sio2 soap which I've used before.

Good stuff. I was going to write an article about this product this week.

I waited until our driveway was shaded as we live in Colorado and the lack of humidity makes washing vehicles impossible in sunlight. The vehicles paint was cool as it had been sitting in the garage all morning. As I'm drying it off I notice water spots all over it, most noticeably on the glass but I have spots all over the plastic trim and painted body panels too. I've tried stoner window cleaner and si02 detail spray with no luck.

Any recommendations on what to try next?

The vehicle is coated with Wolfgang profi ceramic coating. Thank you for your time!

Edit. I've also tried rewashing the vehicle in the garage and distilled white vinegar with no luck

If it is in fact the car wash soap or the SOLIDS in the car wash soap that are on the surface of the paint and glass - kind of just goes to show this wash is the real deal.

Not good in that it's leaving spots or stains on you coating though.

I'll send the link to this thread to Andre - he's more intimately knowledgeable about these products than I am.


:dunno:

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

For those reading this into the future,


A: Be sure to dilute this product accurately. Don't overuse or use the "glug-glug" method of measuring.

B: Be sure to dry immediately.

C: Do not wash in a hot environment - hot car or in the sun.

 

[Andre]

For those reading this into the future,


A: Be sure to dilute this product accurately. Don't overuse or use the "glug-glug" method of measuring.

B: Be sure to dry immediately.

C: Do not wash in a hot environment - hot car or in the sun.

I agree with Mike

Sounds like the culprit was the heat in Colorado. If the water is evaporating almost immediately, then the silica isn't being rinsed off fast enough and is therefore drying on the surface causing the stains. If you had re-washed the vehicle again and it had not caused even MORE spotting than you originally had, then obviously something from the first wash caused the issue to begin with. My best guess is the heat and water evaporating too quickly. That shampoo is highly concentrated and as Mike stated before, it actually leaves a significant amount of silica protection behind which is a good thing, just doesn't play well with heat unfortunately.

I would also recommend using a coating wash like the Reset as it will help strip off the dried up silica stains after several washes. Worst case scenario, the stains will go away over time on their own as well once the silica wears out (typically a couple months tops). If you plan on using that shampoo, I would just be really cautious with the heat and if it's too much at the time, just use a different soap that has no silica in it. When done on a nice cool surface out of sunlight, it does add an amazing amount of hydrophobic properties and gloss! Thanks Jason