Waterless/Rinseless Wash without Wax

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I am currently looking for a waterless/rinseless wash that doesn't leave any wax behind.

I know I will be using it A LOT, and wanted to be able to find something more cost effective than using Wolfgangs every time I do it, because I will be doing the washing over WG 3.0. But it seems if I used their waterless wash it would become very expensive over time.

I noticed that Megs might have something in the D114.

Does anyone have any good words or thoughts on this product?


Thank you all!


Ray
 
People love D114. I would probably go with ONR if you want "no wax"...but honestly the Wolfgang rinseless is a great product.

EDIT: They have the Wolfgang Uber Rinseless gallon on sale at the Wolfgang site for $65 plus 10% off and free shipping. That makes it approximately comparable to ONR in cost. That site is seriously impossible to navigate, let me know if you can't find the product.
 
WG Uber Rinseless really isn't that expensive; 64oz for $49 not on sale on AG, $65 for a gallon on WG site. Wait for a sale and stock up.

Wolfgang Uber Rinseless Wash 128 oz.

Wolfgang website also has free shipping over $50 & 10% off.

IMHO WG is much better than ONR.
 
D114 is pretty much the go to Rinseless that leaves nothing behind. Cheap too at roughly $30/gallon. That being said I find my drying towels to feel pretty grabby compared to Uber.
 
I am currently looking for a waterless/rinseless
wash that doesn't leave any wax behind.

Does anyone have any good words or thoughts on this product
noticed that Megs might have something in the D114.
•You may, or may not, have noticed that:
-Meguiar's D114 does not contain any
Waxes that could be left behind.

•It s a very economical product,
-currently priced @$32.99 for a 1 gallon jug.
-Dilution ratios for WW/RW = 1:128-1:258
-That's extracting ~128-258 gallons of WW/RW
from a 1 gallon jug of D114—that's up to 4.7
55 gallon drums!!


Bob
 
Been a die hard Optimum ONR user forbears now. Recently tried Meguiar`s D114 and love it as well. Cant go wrong with either.
 
Looking for a new 3rd dedicated RW (possibly WG Uber). Currently using ONR, D114, Ultima+.

1. Ebg18T: why is WG IYHO better than ONR?

2. pheerix: why do you think your D114 towels are grabby compared to Uber? Is it the MF's or the RW solution?

Thanks.
 
Looking for a new 3rd dedicated RW (possibly WG Uber). Currently using ONR, D114, Ultima+.

1. Ebg18T: why is WG IYHO better than ONR?

2. pheerix: why do you think your D114 towels are grabby compared to Uber? Is it the MF's or the RW solution?

That's pretty simple...it's because WURW (Wolfgang Uber Rinseless Wash--hey, I invented a new acronym!) has a bunch of sealant or something in it. A more apt comparison than ONR in the Optimum line would be ONRWW.

I think it's kind of funny how the "default" trend in rinseless washes is to add "wax"; this has the dual effect of adding lubricity for drying while adding some protection, and leaving a slick surface which we all love.

However, their does seem to be a splinter movement (like the OP) that wants their RW to have "nothing" in it.
 
Meguiars D114 leaves nothing behind and works great.
 
Looking for a new 3rd dedicated RW (possibly WG Uber). Currently using ONR, D114, Ultima+.



1. Ebg18T: why is WG IYHO better than ONR?



2. pheerix: why do you think your D114 towels are grabby compared to Uber? Is it the MF's or the RW solution?



Thanks.


It's definitely the solution. I'm using the same towels. I've never tried Ultima but from the descriptions I've read it sounds like it'd be similar to how Uber behaves. I think both have their places. Uber for one step Rinseless/waterless with slickness and gloss left behind. D114 for pre-correction washes, pre-LSP wipedowns, and maintenance washes before using a dedicated LSP.
 
It's definitely the solution. I'm using the same towels. I've never tried Ultima but from the descriptions I've read it sounds like it'd be similar to how Uber behaves. I think both have their places. Uber for one step Rinseless/waterless with slickness and gloss left behind. D114 for pre-correction washes, pre-LSP wipedowns, and maintenance washes before using a dedicated LSP.


In your opinion, how does D115 compare to Uber? And at what dilution do you mix your D115?
 
In your opinion, how does D115 compare to Uber? And at what dilution do you mix your D115?


Very similar. Splitting hairs but I'd say D115 has a bit better cleaning ability, slickness and gloss. Even cleans wheels well. I used 1:8 initially and now 1:4. However Uber is pretty darn close and has a much better dilution ratio for waterless. D115's scent, while good, can also get a bit overpowering in the garage.
 
I've never tried Ultima but from the descriptions I've read it sounds like it'd be similar to how Uber behaves.


Uber is pretty much Ultima 'double plus.'

Ultima: V8.
Uber: Supercharged V8.

Ultima is a GREAT product, and Uber simply takes it a step further.

About drying towels and D114... I've noticed what you said, and it depends on the lsp. Some (like 4* UPP) feels smoother during the drying stage, while others feels grabby/squeaky.
 
Looking for a new 3rd dedicated RW (possibly WG Uber). Currently using ONR, D114, Ultima+.

1. Ebg18T: why is WG IYHO better than ONR?

Thanks.

I find it lifts dirt better. Leaves a smoother (less grabby) finish. I like the look after. I find it just as versitle as ONR. Doesn't stain the wash Media. 1oz gives me 3gal of wash solution.

I also like the BF waterless, I mix it like a Rinseless.
 
I like the smell of BF Rinseless (sour apple). Not as slick as Uber though.
 
Very similar. Splitting hairs but I'd say D115 has a bit better cleaning ability, slickness and gloss. Even cleans wheels well. I used 1:8 initially and now 1:4. However Uber is pretty darn close and has a much better dilution ratio for waterless. D115's scent, while good, can also get a bit overpowering in the garage.

Really!? WHOA. I wouldn't have expected that one for sure.
 
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