Whats a safe product (wax/sealant) to use to protect a wrapped car with?

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Hello. I have two things.

I am talking now about detailing someones car for money .. first job for cash!

I didnt know this until now but the whole vehicle has been wrapped. I cant find this anywhere else .. but can you use a wax or sealant on wraps? I have liquid glass (the can stuff), and Meguiars Ultimate Liguid Wax along with Meguiars X-press wax (spray sealant). The liquid glass my have some type of abrasive (polish or cleaners, not sure) in it .. I dont think the Ultimate Liquid Wax does though.

on a wrapped car I would imagine nothing with cleaners or abrasives. If not one of those products then what would be another great option for long term protection on a wrapped car? Looking for more of a sealant than an actual wax.

However if only wax is safe then thats what I will use.

I have NO experience with wrapped cars and I never even thought about a wrapped car before .... surprisingly its hard to find information about wax or sealants to use on them ... except for the matte finished wraps being pretty much no to everything.



Also it is a suburban and it looks to be in excellent shape. I am only doing the outside .. foam cannon.. two bucket wash .. detail the full rims, tires, and fender wells.. dress rims, tires, and fender wells then do the outside and inside glass. Clean door jams, then apply a wax or sealant for 200. I advised i could darken the trim with a trim restore for another 50. Does that sound about fair for price since I am not doing any actual paint correction at all? also not doing anything on the inside.

Thanks!!!
 
Re: What is safe to use to protect a wrapped car with?

Waxes and Sealants have filler properties that can cause staining on Wraps. (especially satin and flat wraps) to protect these types of wraps I only use Optimum Opti Seal which is a polymer sealant with ZERO fillers or gloss enhancers. I always mist 2-3 spritz per panel while still wet from your wash method and just dry it in which brings me to my next suggestion. Use Opti Seal as a drying aid to eliminate micro marring during you drying step on clear coated cars. This product can be used on glass, plastic, rubbers, vinyls, rims etc. etc. Durability is about 4-6 months on a well prepped surface.

As for your pricing question. Only you can decide what is fair but my suggestion to any job you quote is to estimate the amount of time it will require you to perform your services and then quote based on your hourly rate. You hourly rate can vary at different amounts due to your areas average household income.


Patrick
 
Re: What is safe to use to protect a wrapped car with?

Znig22 said:
Waxes and Sealants have filler properties that can cause staining on Wraps. (especially satin and flat wraps) to protect these types of wraps I only use Optimum Opti Seal which is a polymer sealant with ZERO fillers or gloss enhancers. I always mist 2-3 spritz per panel while still wet from your wash method and just dry it in which brings me to my next suggestion. Use Opti Seal as a drying aid to eliminate micro marring during you drying step on clear coated cars. This product can be used on glass, plastic, rubbers, vinyls, rims etc. etc. Durability is about 4-6 months on a well prepped surface.

As for your pricing question. Only you can decide what is fair but my suggestion to any job you quote is to estimate the amount of time it will require you to perform your services and then quote based on your hourly rate. You hourly rate can vary at different amounts due to your areas average household income.


Patrick
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Thanks for the reply. I need to find out if its gloss wrapped or matte. Also I forgot I did just get a gallon of Meguiars D15601 Synthetic X-Press Spray Wax. Could that be used instead of the opti seal? Are they similar? I am not familiar with opti seal. Still have the meguiars ultimate liquid wax too. no idea if it has fillers or what not.

Im going to check out opti seal now.
 
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I wouldn't feel comfortable telling you if your D15601 is safe or not. I know what works for me. Hopefully someone else can chime in and also offer longevity results.

Opti Seal will change your life.. lol
 
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Znig22 said:
I wouldn't feel comfortable telling you if your D15601 is safe or not. I know what works for me. Hopefully someone else can chime in and also offer longevity results.

Opti Seal will change your life.. lol
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yes it will ... at 32 bucks for 8oz .. my wallet will never be the same again lol.
 
Re: What is safe to use to protect a wrapped car with?

Does the vinyl wrap look just like a paint job I was thinking of getting my bumper wrapped to hide the rock chips
 
I'd check out Ultima PGP or Blackfire Crystal Seal, very similar to Optimum👍

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I coated the McKee's 37 van (wrapped vehicle) In about a hour and 10 mins. That was using ladders to get the higher areas as well. On a normal sized vehicle you can get it done surprisingly fast.

https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/108396-mckees-37-paint-coating-beading-photos.html

check out the link to see the beading it provides.

Will be doing a full write up on the application soon! Keep an eye out for that.

really easy to use, Spray on a applicator rub it in. Wipe it off.

Vinyls are porous so use a little more sprays than usual to ensure coverage. The van is really simple to maintain & wash now.

In almost the same effort you will be providing better protection than a wax/sealant and it is almost the same effort. Also a inexpensive alternative.
 
For a fast and quick way of doing it, I suggest either Opti seal or optimum car wax. The last thing you want to do is to pay for a rewrap. There's also dedicated vinyl protectant and sealants ad well.
 
My experience and feedback with working with gloss vinyl such as 3M 1080P or Avery's wraps
Menzerna Powerlock
Optimum OptiSeal
Sonax Polymer Net Shield
Pinnacle Souveran
Zaino
Duragloss 111

All of these have worked and played really well with GLOSS stripes. I have not, nor do I plan on using any of these on matte or satin stripes.
 
RMarkJr said:
Hello. I have two things.

I am talking now about detailing someones car for money .. first job for cash!

I didnt know this until now but the whole vehicle has been wrapped. I cant find this anywhere else .. but can you use a wax or sealant on wraps? I have liquid glass (the can stuff), and Meguiars Ultimate Liguid Wax along with Meguiars X-press wax (spray sealant). The liquid glass my have some type of abrasive (polish or cleaners, not sure) in it .. I dont think the Ultimate Liquid Wax does though.

on a wrapped car I would imagine nothing with cleaners or abrasives. If not one of those products then what would be another great option for long term protection on a wrapped car? Looking for more of a sealant than an actual wax.

However if only wax is safe then thats what I will use.

I have NO experience with wrapped cars and I never even thought about a wrapped car before .... surprisingly its hard to find information about wax or sealants to use on them ... except for the matte finished wraps being pretty much no to everything.



Also it is a suburban and it looks to be in excellent shape. I am only doing the outside .. foam cannon.. two bucket wash .. detail the full rims, tires, and fender wells.. dress rims, tires, and fender wells then do the outside and inside glass. Clean door jams, then apply a wax or sealant for 200. I advised i could darken the trim with a trim restore for another 50. Does that sound about fair for price since I am not doing any actual paint correction at all? also not doing anything on the inside.

Thanks!!!
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Is this the same suburban that walked because he said he could get it done for $65? Under the circumstances, I wouldn't budge from $200.
 
BlackMDX said:
Is this the same suburban that walked because he said he could get it done for $65? Under the circumstances, I wouldn't budge from $200.
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yes its the same one ... I am not doing it .. I am more looking for future reference if I do get another wrapped car so that way I know what to use on them.
 
If you can charge $200 for a wash and wax, then what would you charge for paint correction? 2K?
 
expdetailing said:
If you can charge $200 for a wash and wax, then what would you charge for paint correction? 2K?
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wasnt just wash and wax.. and it was a big ass suburban. tires. rims, inner rims, wheel wells, dress tires and wheel wells.. glass in and out. trim restore .. door jams .. wax/sealant.


but the places around here for my honda accord said they would get light swirls out of the paint was about 350. They would do the glass.. tires and rims with it.

a full correction they said would be 400 to 600 for the accord
 
RMarkJr said:
wasnt just wash and wax.. and it was a big ass suburban. tires. rims, inner rims, wheel wells, dress tires and wheel wells.. glass in and out. trim restore .. door jams .. wax/sealant.


but the places around here for my honda civic said they would get light swirls out of the paint was about 350. They would do the glass.. tires and rims with it.

a full correction they said would be 400 to 600 for the accord
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And I also seem to recall you dropped your price to $125, and then he said he can get it done for $65. I guess he thought you should do it for $50! Trust me, this is not someone you want on your customer list, at any price.
 
BlackMDX said:
And I also seem to recall you dropped your price to $125, and then he said he can get it done for $65. I guess he thought you should do it for $50! Trust me, this is not someone you want on your customer list, at any price.
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Ya I did .. I was thinking .. Im new .. I want to start this business .. and hopefully that would get more business from him/referrals .. so I said while im figuring out my packages and prices I will drop it to 125 and it`ll give me something to do.

I have a feeling he wasnt looking at me like a detailer/business.. rather his sister in laws friends boyfriend who washes cars.

Ya there was nooo way I was going to do it for that .. I couldnt get myself to 100 and really thought about 150 for all of it.
 
RMarkJr said:
Ya I did .. I was thinking .. Im new .. I want to start this business .. and hopefully that would get more business from him/referrals .. so I said while im figuring out my packages and prices I will drop it to 125 and it`ll give me something to do.

I have a feeling he wasnt looking at me like a detailer/business.. rather his sister in laws friends boyfriend who washes cars.

Ya there was nooo way I was going to do it for that .. I couldnt get myself to 100 and really thought about 150 for all of it.
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The problem is his referrals will all be expecting the same low price you gave him.
 
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