Whats next in detailing technology after permanent coatings?

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The past few years we have all been blown away with what permanent coatings offer the detailing world. Ease of use, the BENEFITS of it, and the ease of car/paint care after they have been applied. IMO its the biggest leap in an already fast changing environment or new products and methods.

But, like anything else, there always something greater on the horizon. I'm sure it's already being developed now. So, what's next after coatings? What's going to make coatings look like old technology?

I think permanent coatings that can FILL defects is next. It's probably already being tested by many of the "detailing gods" that frequent this very forum. If this is the case...a sector or paint correction may fade away!

Thought/comments? I saw Kamikaze makes a product that fills swirls but I'm not sure if this is permanent.
 
Oh the technology has been outstanding with the current "coatings". I am guilty. Xterra has DP paint/wheel/glass coats. WGTS on the trim and lamps. I think a AIO coating may be on the horizon. One that corrects and coats in one step. One that will remove/lessen scratches/oxidation/etc.

And we are all guilty of spending our money on the next greatest thing, even before our current LSP is even setting up on our vehicles.

The EVIL of the hobby. But i love it.
 
•Since Optimum's latest announcement regarding its Coatings...
-I am not aware of any Coatings stated to be permanent.

•Perhaps a Coating-product that actually is permanent, will be the next technological advance in car-care.
-So far, though: It's a No-go!

Bob
 
Its going to be interesting for sure and I forgot where I found it but apparently someone already posted it up but a year ago I found this spray on stuff where water and mud/dirt wouldn't stick to it, I'd say its going to be something like that.

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If coatings that fill are developed the detailing business will just about cease.

The technology is there but it will hurt the detailing manufacturers bottom line too much let alone the trickle down.

Kind of like making a drug to cure the diseases, we have the ability, but the medical field would suffer from loss of revenue from meds, treatments, etc.. Not to mention population control, need some to due off


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HD.Detailing said:
If coatings that fill are developed the detailing business will just about cease.

The technology is there but it will hurt the detailing manufacturers bottom line too much let alone the trickle down.

Kind of like making a drug to cure the diseases, we have the ability, but the medical field would suffer from loss of revenue from meds, treatments, etc.. Not to mention population control, need some to due off


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Agreed. A coating that fills will be here before long. It will just be outrageously priced to keep the detailing market in check
 
There are some new coatings coming out with self healing properties that look pretty freaking amazing. I think that will naturally be the next evolution in paint protection coatings.
 
I heard of restore-fx or something like that that is a filling coating? I could be mistaken.

With the 3m clear bra having the self healing feature I wouldn't doubt it if coatings went that direction
 
HD.Detailing said:
If coatings that fill are developed the detailing business will just about cease.

The technology is there but it will hurt the detailing manufacturers bottom line too much let alone the trickle down.
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Audios S6 said:
Agreed. A coating that fills will be here before long. It will just be outrageously priced to keep the detailing market in check
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Have you guys forgotten that there already are
"Coatings that fill" out in the market place?

Cquartz UK...with a film-build-layer of 1µm ~2µm thick...
Is stated to have minor swirl filling abilities.

And:
Since it is stated that it can also be layered (in essence: effectively adding 1µm ~2µm with each successive/successful film-build-layer)...

Then...
Would it be a stretch of the imagination that many---if not most: "removable by polishing" defects---could be filled-in by CQUK?

•Except for the acknowledgement-nuance that there are no current permanent Coatings:
Welcome to the "Fill-in Future"!! :)


Bob
 
greatwhitenorth said:
I heard of restore-fx or something like that that is a filling coating? I could be mistaken.

With the 3m clear bra having the self healing feature I wouldn't doubt it if coatings went that direction
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I wonder what happens when a "self-healing" film is scratched on a cold day, gets dirty and then heals on a warm day while still dirty

Isn't the dirt going to be sealed into scratch?
 
Agreed that 'filling' coatings do exist - we make the stuff by the litre! Of course, as with many of these things, it is a product from another area which has been transferred to detailing.

I am actually rather unconvinced by coatings. Many are really rather far from permanent and it strikes me that very few have actually considered the significance of something genuinely permanent. Think about it logically, if it is able to modify the visual appearance and it is genuinely permanent, what happens when it goes wrong?

Personally I feel that detailers have perhaps lost track of what pays the bills. Why there is such interest in products which would negate the need for their services is beyond me. I support the approach of a permanent product on wheels, where there really is a lot of potential for contamination and access is awkward. I like then the use of long life sealants on the paint work. This then gives superb results and gives scope to play/vary/tinker and customers are more inclined to come back.
 
I would like to see an oleophobic coating. Much of what sticks to paint is oil based. It always looks cool to see water sheet of of paint, and we often judge coatings by their beading abilities, yet I think it would be awesome to have finger prints or tar bead up, and not adhere themselves to the paint as well as they do. I'm not sure of what the hydrophobic properties of such a coating would be, but I'd still like to see one on the market.
 
Belphegor said:
I would like to see an oleophobic coating.

Much of what sticks to paint is oil based. It always looks cool to see water sheet of of paint, and we often judge coatings by their beading abilities, yet I think it would be awesome to have finger prints or tar bead up, and not adhere themselves to the paint as well as they do.
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Here's a "Picture Perfect" Oleophobic Coating:



Belphegor said:
I'm not sure of what the hydrophobic properties of such a coating would be, but I'd still like to see one on the market.
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Yes indeedy:
Oleophobic Coatings can also be hydrophobic.


Bob
 
Two things I would like to see someday. Firstly, an interior glass coating to stop 'fogging' which is highly durable and does not impact on night vision.

The second thing would be a coating/sealant which has a way of showing it is no longer on the paint i.e. if the the sealant had a UV florescence it could be checked to see if the product was still on the paint by using a UV light
 
Lowejackson said:
The second thing would be a coating/sealant which has a way of showing it is no longer on the paint
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That's an intriguing idea! In my industry we have little tools that check a stone's reflectivity or shine. Basically a gloss-meter that will check if a machine and it's tools are running up to par when polishing edges or flatwork. They look very similar to a paint depth gauge. Most of us can tell visually the difference between bare clear coat and a coated or waxed, but not if, after a two bucket wash if our wax is still there. It seems 'almost' feasible that a gloss-meter could tell the difference between bare clear coat and paint that still has wax on it. It's a bit of stretch, but a purpose built tool made for this purpose could MAYBE help discern the difference. It's probably infeasible in practice, and it probably wouldn't be available for a "common man" price, but something like this would be a cool tool to have.
 
The future is looking bright in terms on 'coatings'

There are the mentioned self healing ones being worked on.

I have been using a Rubber based coating that differ from Glass Coatings mainly in terms of water spot resistance. I get none or at least they clean off very easily.

There are supposed other rubber based coatings coming soon but that's just what i've heard.

What really intrigues me is - an artificial clear coat that is machined on, mainly to address soft thin clear coat paint basically saving the paint below. This clear can then be coated over the top of.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO-QP4WLY_s]KAMIKAZE ARTIFICIAL CLEAR COAT - YouTube[/video]

What else, other glass based carnauba waxes and more spray on hose off types.

And there are still 'permanent' coatings out there that work as advertised. Not just Opt.
 
A coating that is impervious to etchings from hard water, tree sap and bird droppings.
 
A consumer level product with the ability to spot repair clear coat damage that is WOWO or WOWA.

That's what I want.
 
My wife's Mazda has a coating from the dealer. It's been good on the car. A few stains from her office parking garage. The paint feels so rough tho. I started to clay the car. My clay is brown now Not a fan of coatings
 
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