what's the last car care/detailing video you've just watched?

DFB said:
The Yum Cars thing touches on the topic @Eldorado2k brought up earlier about liars and IP theft.

I know most here don't like Obsessed Garage, hell, even my faith is waning. But what Yum Cars has done is cut and paste what Matt has pioneered via his own business. This doesn't necessarily relate to selling the same products, tools and accessories...................in fact, anyone is perfectly able to do just that. For example, just about every detailing supplier will sell at least one item Matt has endorsed or brought to prominence. But the key word here is "Matt".

Why "Matt"? Because OG is not a faceless corporation, what sets the business apart is Matt's personal touch that is evident across the board. And even if you don't agree with some of his personality traits (I don't either), you can't deny his website has a very distinctive look. All of the images used in a product listing are his own, as opposed to using the manufacturers stock images. Nor does he cut and paste the standard product description, they are all written from a personal standpoint with a unique language. None of that is necessary to sell something on the internet, but its OG personality.....................their IP.

Now go and look at the Yum Cars website. The photos are shot in the same light against a similar background. The product descriptions use Matt's "tone" and choice of words. The Youtube videos are a blatant copy-cat situation. The bottle labels for the Pressol bottles look the same. In fact, he tried to sell those Pressol bottles into the US market, which ignored the fact Matt has the US distribution rights. (He did that via Clean Garage, which is the reason why I never link people to that company. Then both YC and CG turned on Matt for cutting them off, which he was legally allowed to do). The components of his pressure washer packages use the same parts and pieces, that's despite there being countless different variations on that MTM and Mosmatic nozzle, wand and gun. Instead of spec'ing something unique to Yum Cars, he just picked the ones Matt arrived at after years of testing and consultation with MTM/Mosmatic.

What I'm trying to say is, the Yum Cars guy has no original thought, he just looks at what others are doing. And it's not just using other people's ideas for inspiration, its a blatant copy of someone else's vision, right down to using the same words and terminology.
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Have only seen a couple of yum cars videos but I from the few I’ve watched it never felt like he was trying to portray himself as some sort of expert who could properly judge a product just by looking at it?
I totally agree with you that Matt has contributed to the detailing community and is the pioneer of having everyone wanting to place their pressure washer on the wall but I feel as though you are being somewhat harsh on Yum cars especially when you consider that Matt is guilty of the same thing you are accusing young cars of doing. Yum cars has at least taken the leap of producing/manufacturing his own product line and not just reselling products from other brands. Just saying.
 
SNP209 said:
Jon from forensic has ranked turtle wax flex wax as the best detail spray in his current "shootout" but it's not even a detail spray, it's a spray wax. He even included griot's ceramic 3 in 1 wax in his detail spray shootout and that is a spray sealant. He is just making content to try and stay relevant now and his credibility has gone down the drain.
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you really think the Forensic guys credibility has fallen because of this? I think a lot of people would consider a spray wax product in the same group for detail spray? What do you think the difference would be?
 
KimJungIllest said:
you really think the Forensic guys credibility has fallen because of this? I think a lot of people would consider a spray wax product in the same group for detail spray? What do you think the difference would be?
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It’s a blur now but detail sprays / quick detailers were cleaning products - not protection products. Far from waxes and sealants.

Now that category of product is referred to as a waterless wash product. And even those products contain protection like a sealant would.
 
KimJungIllest said:
Have only seen a couple of yum cars videos but I from the few I’ve watched it never felt like he was trying to portray himself as some sort of expert who could properly judge a product just by looking at it?
I totally agree with you that Matt has contributed to the detailing community and is the pioneer of having everyone wanting to place their pressure washer on the wall but I feel as though you are being somewhat harsh on Yum cars especially when you consider that Matt is guilty of the same thing you are accusing young cars of doing. Yum cars has at least taken the leap of producing/manufacturing his own product line and not just reselling products from other brands. Just saying.
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Who do you work for....Come on fess up it's YUM or THOR 😘
 
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The overall look, his terminology, the parts and material choices, they are all as per the guy who dreamt up this layout 7 years ago. He mentions the word "custom" about 100 times in the video below, well it's not custom if you copied someone else's custom idea. The lance he went with is the same one used by OG, and for context, Mosmatic and MTM make several different lance shapes and lengths, yet he went with the exact same one Matt did. His "custom" whip lines are an off the shelf item from MTM, I have one myself.

I mean, it's a pressure washer on the wall, how different could it be? Thing is, instead of coming up with his own layout, he's just copied someone else's idea to feed off the hard work and marketing done by someone else. The same applies to the spray bottles and label designs, the overall look and terminology used in his videos, the website images.....................all blatant rip offs. And then he wonders why the guy he copied got hacked off. Frankly, I'd be embarrassed to pass all of this off as my own work, I'd rather pursue something that wouldn't come off as being a copycat fake.

7 years ago, circa 2018 -


1 year ago, circa 2024 -


Then there is this video where he "exposes something super criminal"...............................which he learnt from watching and reading you-know-who's videos posted several years prior.


I am well aware I effectively copied that pressure washer layout as well. But I'm not trying to sell it or pass it off as my own magical idea.
 
dwaleke said:
It’s a blur now but detail sprays / quick detailers were cleaning products - not protection products. Far from waxes and sealants.

Now that category of product is referred to as a waterless wash product. And even those products contain protection like a sealant would.
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Forensic Detailing guy has often grouped the spray products from simple drying aids to sprays with substantial protection. In most of this reviews, he scores and weights them so someone can decide what aspect is more important. I would expect a lot of user variability depending on what is on the paint.
 
DFB said:
The overall look, his terminology, the parts and material choices, they are all as per the guy who dreamt up this layout 7 years ago. He mentions the word "custom" about 100 times in the video below, well it's not custom if you copied someone else's custom idea. The lance he went with is the same one used by OG, and for context, Mosmatic and MTM make several different lance shapes and lengths, yet he went with the exact same one Matt did. His "custom" whip lines are an off the shelf item from MTM, I have one myself.

I mean, it's a pressure washer on the wall, how different could it be? Thing is, instead of coming up with his own layout, he's just copied someone else's idea to feed off the hard work and marketing done by someone else. The same applies to the spray bottles and label designs, the overall look and terminology used in his videos, the website images.....................all blatant rip offs. And then he wonders why the guy he copied got hacked off. Frankly, I'd be embarrassed to pass all of this off as my own work, I'd rather pursue something that wouldn't come off as being a copycat fake.

7 years ago, circa 2018 -


1 year ago, circa 2024 -


Then there is this video where he "exposes something super criminal"...............................which he learnt from watching and reading you-know-who's videos posted several years prior.


I am well aware I effectively copied that pressure washer layout as well. But I'm not trying to sell it or pass it off as my own magical idea.
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Yeah, i think he’s using the word “custom” because those are the parts he’s chosen to offer his customers so technically he’s not wrong. I don’t really see any issue if he is selling items that are similar to what someone else is selling. I could be mistaken but I believe he does acknowledge OG in one of his videos. It just felt somewhat hypocritical considering that Matt is guilty of very same thing Yun cars is being accused of for copying others and claiming himself as the originator.
 
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dwaleke said:
It’s a blur now but detail sprays / quick detailers were cleaning products - not protection products. Far from waxes and sealants.

Now that category of product is referred to as a waterless wash product. And even those products contain protection like a sealant would.
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Tasmania said:
It was Who but my finger slipped
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Lol I was just about to ask you if that was what you were asking just now. Yeah, I don’t work for yum or thor.
 
It's all called marketing. It is not uncommon to see something old (product, technique) and call it new. This is how we have a Perfectly Safe Brush that seems to sell out often. I guess the purchasers never used the mitt on stick sold by TRC, Griot's, etc. and just had to be made aware. This also highlights who is speaking....It took Yvan's blessing to motivate the fan boy.

Pressure washer wall mounting does not look like rocket science especially with the Yum trying to over complicate (the marketing techo sales pitch it all.

I wonder if some of these guy's garage look better than their living room.
 
As we were leaving to go shopping in the mid-30s weather (overcast and some drizzle), the usual man and women crew were washing the next door neighbors 3 vehicle. It was the usual wash with a mitt on stick and a pressure washer to rinse. I never seen any foam so guessing it is a rinseless product.
 
I was wondering how those who use the "wash media on a pole" dry the roof.
 
Bunky said:
I was wondering how those who use the "wash media on a pole" dry the roof.
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This is for the FJ, the Nissan I can reach from ground level, but I open the front and back doors, remember the rear doors are sort of suicide doors (you have to open the front first) and walk along the door sills, I can reach just pass the middle. For the rear half of the roof I'll either stand on the rear tyres or open the rear door, which is side opening, and stand with my feet just inside on the rear floor. I have to be careful working inside though, I've occasionally hit my head on the open garage.
 
I have 2 SUVs that I cannot reach easily without either using opening the doors or using the platform. The sellers of these poles never mention how they dry without doing something similar even if the pole worked for washing - an incomplete solution. The mitt on a pole has been around for years and then DIY Detail markets a brush (with extra flagging on bristles) and somehow this is considered a game changer. I noticed people using it on roofs are only cleaning with a third of the bristles maybe 3 rows because it is a fixed angle. I noted this to DIY Detail on Facebook and all they said had 2 angles The molded base is V shaped.
 
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Is the record breaking year because the product comparison for everything is Dawn?

I gave the benefit of the doubt thinking they want to show car care is easy with the right products and easy to do... but the website is a hot mess in every product category with tons of products.

I'm not familiar with this brand - they've made not buying anything even easier.


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