Wheel ceramic affect wheel weights?

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Nearly ready to apply Gtechniq C5 to the rims. Saw comments on sites about weights not adhering as well; I guess on the inside of the barrel.
Anyone heard of this? Someone said let the coating cure for at least 5 days.
 
When I use Opti-Coat 2.0 on wheels, I've never had any weight issues. However, OC 2.0 was not a slick coating, more like bare paint. I know DFB cautioned about the Armour wheel coating being too slick for weights; I've never used it but hard for me to imagine that double stick tape not holding.
 
I've had concerns but sofar....I've yet to find a missing weight. VHB or any decent weight supplier should -fuse- to the substate it's being attached.

Now that I'm putting this into perspective, I've be more concerned about a tire shop with cheap stick on weight.
Every now and then , you do see a thread where the VHB is kinda there, somewhat there but the weight is completely gone.
 
raysaint said:
Nearly ready to apply Gtechniq C5 to the rims. Saw comments on sites about weights not adhering as well; I guess on the inside of the barrel.
Anyone heard of this? Someone said let the coating cure for at least 5 days.
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I tend to have the tyres mounted and balanced before coating. This does make manhandling the wheels while coating more difficult, but I would rather deal with that than having something not go right with a functional part of the wheel. That said, I can't say for sure that wheel weights wouldn't adhere to a coating, I would assume that would vary depending on the adhesive used and the coating itself.
 
DFB said:
I tend to have the tyres mounted and balanced before coating. This does make manhandling the wheels while coating more difficult, but I would rather deal with that than having something not go right with a functional part of the wheel. That said, I can't say for sure that wheel weights wouldn't adhere to a coating, I would assume that would vary depending on the adhesive used and the coating itself.
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Agreed


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I'll talk with the tire shop today, and see what he says. Maybe they only use the clip-on weights, along the edge of the rim. If I have to I'll have them mounted and then coat them before the install.
I might go ahead and coat the face of the rims, then the barrels after mount and balance
Thanks for the insight.
 
raysaint said:
Maybe they only use the clip-on weights, along the edge of the rim.
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Do tire shops even use clip on weights for non-commercial vehicles any more? I can't say I've seen a clip on weights anywhere for a very, very long time. Many of the wheel designs don't really lend themselves to a having a good place to apply the clip.
 
Desertnate said:
Do tire shops even use clip on weights for non-commercial vehicles any more? I can't say I've seen a clip on weights anywhere for a very, very long time. Many of the wheel designs don't really lend themselves to a having a good place to apply the clip.
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Upon a closer look, there are a bunch of adhesive weights in a row on the inside of the barrel, close to the front of the rim. And there's one clip-on on the rear edge of each rim.

Not sure if the dealership balanced them before pickup, or the factory. But with new rubber, chances are weights will have to be added or removed to balance them.
 
And for real OCD.....ahem....one preps the wheel before getting new tires installed (if you are fortunate enough to be using a different set of wheels physically on the car). It's my preferred way to get wheels mounted if the opportunity exists


It's alot easier to remove weight, then yellow rubber eraser off the VHB so the tire tech has a perfectly clean wheel to do his thing.....and if he's mounting it right after......the hard part is done. Removing leftover weight sticker after the fact with adhesive remove, plastic scraper, etc is more work that can be avoided if it was done off the car
 
chefwong said:
yellow rubber eraser off the VHB
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Are you talking about one of these?:

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chefwong said:
And for real OCD.....ahem....one preps the wheel before getting new tires installed (if you are fortunate enough to be using a different set of wheels physically on the car). It's my preferred way to get wheels mounted if the opportunity exists


It's alot easier to remove weight, then yellow rubber eraser off the VHB so the tire tech has a perfectly clean wheel to do his thing.....and if he's mounting it right after......the hard part is done. Removing leftover weight sticker after the fact with adhesive remove, plastic scraper, etc is more work that can be avoided if it was done off the car
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This is my approach too.
 
The couple times I've done it I don't think I had to resort to an eraser wheel. I plastic razor blade removed the big chunks of adhesive tape and then I used a little 3M adhesive remover to clean up what was left.
 
Yes, on the rubber wheel

I've done the plastic scraper - then 3M Adhesive, solvent, terminator, more scraping route. IME, the tape is just tenacious and annoying this route. Even with the soaking of it with adhesive remove, etc. After you get the black portion of the tape off, sometime it's the clear part that is stuck and you scrape more, etc. ....and it's alot harder to do at times with limited clearances of rotor to barrel.

Hence, I prefer to do it wheels off if one has that option.

Productivity wise, I just tape off the surrounding area, then eraser it off and then use a solvent if any residual bits remain when I *back off* on the rubber wheel
The one extra value as well with doing it pre shop visit, is that you are the one removing the weight and deciding what micro marring get's put in or not.....yeah, I know, no one will ever see it, it's the dang barrel for gawds sake ;-)
 
It'll be up to the tire shop to remove or add weights, based on proper balancing. I'm sure they do this all the time.

I'm gonna coat the face of the rims, have the new rubber mounted and balanced, bring the wheel assemblies home, and then finish coating the barrels; that way any weights will be in place. And I'll do the rubber cleaning, then have them installed on the car. Then do first dressing on the rubber.
 
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