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Car is a 2013 black mustang. Last polish I did was 6 months ago. White pad with m205. Car still looks great! Winter has did a little number and I notice I have to get really really close to the car to see it. I've gotta have it under big lights and really be looking but the doors have some. Should I go ahead and polish with black pad or white with m205 on my big detail coming up soon? Or should I hold off just to help with clear coat preservation? This will be the third time the car gets a full buff if I do it. First time was also m205 on a white pad but I wasn't using grit guards so that's why I had to do if again. Suggestions please!!!


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I would execute your plan come spring time if you live in an area of snowy and salty roads. That'll give you time to do any additional research you may deem necessary.
 
If it was me i'd wait.
Wash and a good coat of Nuba should help with the pain:)

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Full detail will consist of clay, might polish still undecided, poor boys black hole, natty blue paste wax. I'll use lots of clay lube, but that could still leave some marring behind.


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I have a black challenger. If you clay it, you're going to polish it. Trust me, you won't be able to live with the marring as it'll be everywhere.

On the other hand, the PB black hole may just have enough fillers to pull off the look.

There can't be that much paint removed with M205 on a white pad. How long you plan on keeping this vehicle?
 
I don't think the black pad will do much in the way of defect removal except remove the slightest of marring. The white pad is what I'd recommend but would also advise waiting till spring. I'm wanting to test 205 on a orange pad to see how it behaves. I don't think I need an actual compound on my car but a little more aggressive cut than the white pad.
 
ironsurvivor said:
Car is a 2013 black mustang. Last polish I did was 6 months ago. White pad with m205. Car still looks great! Winter has did a little number and I notice I have to get really really close to the car to see it. I've gotta have it under big lights and really be looking but the doors have some. Should I go ahead and polish with black pad or white with m205 on my big detail coming up soon? Or should I hold off just to help with clear coat preservation? This will be the third time the car gets a full buff if I do it. First time was also m205 on a white pad but I wasn't using grit guards so that's why I had to do if again. Suggestions please!!!


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M205 is a really fine polish, your not taking as much paint off as you think. If all you have used is 205, youll be fine. Heavy compounds are a different story, if your that concerned I would invest in a paint gauge. However personally, I think your fine.

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I don't think the black pad will do much in the way of defect removal except remove the slightest of marring. The white pad is what I'd recommend but would also advise waiting till spring. I'm wanting to test 205 on a orange pad to see how it behaves. I don't think I need an actual compound on my car but a little more aggressive cut than the white pad.
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If your going to go with an orange pad, make sure you follow up with a white pad as well.
 
All I've ever used is m205 on white. Except once when I used it with an orange on a spot correction. I can confirm m205 on orange does work very well. Maybe I should wait till march then to do my full detail. I plan on keeping the vehicle at least for 5 years at the minimum. I'll tell you one thing. Black sure is sinister, but my next mustang won't be black ;)


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ironsurvivor said:
All I've ever used is m205 on white. Except once when I used it with an orange on a spot correction. I can confirm m205 on orange does work very well. Maybe I should wait till march then to do my full detail. I plan on keeping the vehicle at least for 5 years at the minimum. I'll tell you one thing. Black sure is sinister, but my next mustang won't be black ;)


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For sure, black paint is exclusive because it shows defects very very well. Compared to lighter colors like silver & white, black paint isnt as forgiving.
 
I've used m205 on a MF cutting pad was very happy with the results
 
Why not wait until spring? Whatever is causing the marring now (snow, ice, grit, salt, winter wash techniques, etc.) isn't going to go away until spring is it? My thought process would be, if I'm going to have to remove precious clear, I'm gonna do that as infrequently as possible. So if I'm going to continue to drive it in these conditions, I'll wait just a couple more months for spring and do it then. (But that's me!)

I'm gonna polish, and probably hit it with a coating come spring.
 
Only 5 years? Polish away with the M205. You'll unload it long before you go thru the clear if you're correcting with that 2 times a year.
 
5 years at a minimum. Could be 10. Just depends. I live in Oklahoma and we had one of the worst winters in 5 years this year so that's why it did such a number on the car. This week has been really nice. Oklahoma is very bi polar


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I'll add my voice to the, "wait" vote. You have a lot of winter left that can still lead to marring of your paint.

You won't be dissapointed by Black Hole. I used it on my black car this fall just before winter hit. Not only did it fill in all of the light mars and swirls caused by the shipping covers, but it also completely hid the very visible swirls on the B-pillars.
 
Alright so wait till spring when the weather is right and then do my full detail including light polish? Is m205 on white a pretty mild approach? I'm just concerned with how many times I can do if


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CM8 6MT said:
M205 is a really fine polish, your not taking as much paint off as you think. If all you have used is 205, youll be fine. Heavy compounds are a different story, if your that concerned I would invest in a paint gauge. However personally, I think your fine.




If your going to go with an orange pad, make sure you follow up with a white pad as well.
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You should be fine with these suggestions.
 
205 should be gentle enough for what you want to do. If you don't need much correction at all then using the black pad will ensure the least ammount of removal. I would test it with the black pad first to see if it performs like you expect and only go to the white pad if you need more corretion.
 
I'm going to tape an area off and try m205 on a black pad then do an IPA and if that fixes it then no reason to step up to white


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CowboyTruckn said:
I don't think the black pad will do much in the way of defect removal except remove the slightest of marring. The white pad is what I'd recommend but would also advise waiting till spring. I'm wanting to test 205 on a orange pad to see how it behaves. I don't think I need an actual compound on my car but a little more aggressive cut than the white pad.
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I agree! Black pad isn't going to do any real defect removal. But, the 205 will do removal on it's own.

I'd not put more than a white pad on it and start from there though.

Orange pads work great with 205! :props:

ironsurvivor said:
All I've ever used is m205 on white. Except once when I used it with an orange on a spot correction. I can confirm m205 on orange does work very well. Maybe I should wait till march then to do my full detail. I plan on keeping the vehicle at least for 5 years at the minimum. I'll tell you one thing. Black sure is sinister, but my next mustang won't be black ;)


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I wouldn't be worried about losing any measurable amount of clear with 205 as it's ever so slight. What I WOULD be worried about is changing up the washing method to include grit guards, changing out your mitts, using a foam gun/cannon perhaps so as to mitigate any impending swirls as long as possible. ;)

"Sinister" is an understatement indeed for the troubles that black brings. :eek: Nothing like how once just detailed and sealed looks, but the nightmare of KEEPING it that way just never ends. :rolleyes:
 
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