White residue on wheels after using Backfire CS

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Today I washed and clayed my wheels following up with Backfire Crystal Seal. Everything was fine but after I parked up tonight I saw this residue on my wheels. Please don't expand the photos they are ginormous and I could not resize them.

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All pics were taken after trying to use a waterless wash and a thick nap MF towel. I can scratch it off with my fingernail.

Things that I tried that did not work:
1. Quick Detailer
2. Waterless wash
3. Eco Touch Wheel cleaner

Thoughts?
 
There are some variables did you apply it to a hot or warm wheel,maybe it was way to cold to apply or you got product in lug nuts and you took off down the road and the product was trapped and flew all over the rim.Is this on all 4 wheels or just 1 .If you have access to a pressure washer and a strong undiluted apc I would blast" it off.This may be your second option get some nail polish remover without acetone and see if it will come off.Third option compound with hand with a terry cloth or a sock inside out.https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bella-Salon/848083961905021?ref=page_internal&sk=photos_stream#
 
GSKR said:
There are some variables did you apply it to a hot or warm wheel,maybe it was way to cold to apply or you got product in lug nuts and you took off down the road and the product was trapped and flew all over the rim.Is this on all 4 wheels or just 1 .If you have access to a pressure washer and a strong undiluted apc I would blast" it off.This may be your second option get some nail polish remover without acetone and see if it will come off.Third option compound with hand with a terry cloth or a sock inside out.https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bella-Salon/848083961905021?ref=page_internal&sk=photos_stream#
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This was done on a cold wheel outdoors. All 4 wheels exhibit this. I will try some APC later when I get home, like I said I can take it off with my fingernail and it did not leave any marks behind when I did so. I also have Wolfgang Uber Wheel Cleaner which I will probably use and try all over next weekend in regards to sealing them.

Also autocorrect will be the death of me, turning Blackfire into Backfire.
 
Get some purple power apc from any auto store,spray on 1 wheel at a time and use hot or boiling water and work in with a stiff toothbrush.I would skip the sealer till spring and just use collinite wax.
 
Quick update. Tried a test spot with Wolfgang Uber Wheel Cleaner and after a minute or so of dwelling I agitated it a bit with a toothbrush and follow up with WG Rinseless in Waterless dilution. Significant improvement but some test spots still needed me to scrape off the residue with my finger.

Still confused as to what this is and how it happened. I tried some clay as well and it did nothing. APC diluted for exterior use didn't work at all either. The only thing I can think is some Aerospace 303 got on my wheels and mixed with the sealant and that's what this residue is. Can't hit the whole wheel properly with WG UWC until Saturday so I will try that then.
 
DapperStyle said:
Quick update. Tried a test spot with Wolfgang Uber Wheel Cleaner and after a minute or so of dwelling I agitated it a bit with a toothbrush and follow up with WG Rinseless in Waterless dilution. Significant improvement but some test spots still needed me to scrape off the residue with my finger.


Still confused as to what this is and how it happened. I tried some clay as well and it did nothing. APC diluted for exterior use didn't work at all either. The only thing I can think is some Aerospace 303 got on my wheels and mixed with the sealant and that's what this residue is. Can't hit the whole wheel properly with WG UWC until Saturday so I will try that then.
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You need a strong apc ,that Wolfgang stuff is probably dummy down a bit.Hot water and strong apc should work with a stiff brush
 
GSKR said:
You need a strong apc ,that Wolfgang stuff is probably dummy down a bit.Hot water and strong apc should work with a stiff brush
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I've got CG All Clean+ what dilution would be best? 5:1? I currently use it 10:1 for exterior use.
 
DapperStyle said:
I've got CG All Clean+ what dilution would be best? 5:1? I currently use it 10:1 for exterior use.
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I would try it straight undiluted.hot water is the key to breaking that down along with the apc.
 
The wheels are OEM MB wheels that are clearcoated, will that be an issue using CG All Clean straight on it?
 
What did you use initially to clean them? It looks to me like the cleaner you used dried on the wheel. Polish will usually help that out.
 
dcjredline said:
What did you use initially to clean them? It looks to me like the cleaner you used dried on the wheel. Polish will usually help that out.
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After using DP Tire Cleaner and hosing off, I followed up with Ecotouch wheel cleaner and Rinseless wash. After that I clayed the wheels, dried them and used Blackfire Crystal Seal. Everything was fine after using the sealant, no white chalky residue. Then I dressed the wheels with Aero 303 on an applicator (not spraying on the tires) it was when I returned later on that I saw the residue.

I've got FG400, 2500, 4000 and various foam hand applicators, not sure which would be appropriate.
 
zmcgovern45 said:
Golden Rule of Polishing: Always start with the least aggressive method.
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SF4000 on a white foam CCS hand applicator it is. I'm going to try some stronger ratio APC (All Clean+) first then if it comes off I'll hand polish regardless and try to seal again. I only have Blackfire CS, Wet Diamond Polymer Spray and Megs Ulimate Liquid Wax as far as waxes go to use on wheels, maybe Crystal Seal just is not meant for wheels. :dunno:

Also from some of my pictures I see it might be hard to tell whats the residue and whats reflecting from the flash. I've highlighted it here to make it easier for others:

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Situations like this is when having Megs Wheel Brightener comes in handy. I'd start and probably be able to end it with that @4:1
 
DapperStyle said:
The wheels are OEM MB wheels that are clearcoated, will that be an issue using CG All Clean straight on it?
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No just as a precaution apply on a cold rim.I never bought or used any cguy stuff,I'm pretty sure it's not that strong undiluted.Try a small section on rim with warm or hot water and a tooth brush.
 
Eldorado2k said:
Situations like this is when having Megs Wheel Brightener comes in handy. I'd start and probably be able to end it with that @4:1
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It's acid based cleaner it won't help his situation.
 
GSKR said:
No just as a precaution apply on a cold rim.I never bought or used any cguy stuff,I'm pretty sure it's not that strong undiluted.Try a small section on rim with warm or hot water and a tooth brush.
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Okay will try, I'll have to wait until the weekend unfortunately.
 
GSKR said:
It's acid based cleaner it won't help his situation.
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Alright, I had only skimmed though most of the details and focused on what sort of looked like bad water spots.

If an acid based wheel cleaner won't help this situation, I'd start with Brown Royal undiluted.
 
Brown royal is a good product,although it's hard to find in different parts of the country.He will be fine with a undiluted apc.He is to try a section first before going all out,and don't let it dwell on there for a hour.The most aggressive apc has butly in it very caustic and etching.you usually find that in detail professional line I think it's called tcs apc.If that or hand polishing doesn't work I got 10 other things he could try effectively .
 
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This is what my wheel looked like after using undiluted CG All Clean+ APC, Uber Wheel Cleaner and CG Wash and Gloss at 1:1.

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Finally got the residue off by using Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing lotion on a CCS foam hand applicator and lots of elbow grease. Tried using Menz 2500 and it worked the same way and didn't reduce the amount of elbow grease needed. Still missed some spots but gone for the most part.

I am convinced the BF crystal sealant bonded with running Aerospace 303, just an annoying labor intensive situation all around. I've since sealed my tires with TW Jet Black and the 303 will be for trim use until I use it all up and get WETS.
 
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