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I've read on here that Megs white wax has a fairly high abrasive content. One thread indicated that it's more abrasive than Ultimate Polish. Is this true?

Do I have these in the correct order (increasing in abrading ability)?

Maroon bottle cleaner wax (no correction)
Black wax
ColorX
Ultimate Polish
White wax (most correction)
 
White wax has the same type of same abrasives as that of M101. It just doesn't have as many SMAT abrasives.

One would think that ultimate polish would have more SMAT abrasives than a cleaner wax.

The correction ability of white wax can be increased by using it with a cutting pad.

Black wax also has SMAT abrasives. Colorx does it's thing chemically.
 
Harpolith said:
I've read on here that Megs white wax has a fairly high abrasive content. One thread indicated that it's more abrasive than Ultimate Polish. Is this true?

Do I have these in the correct order (increasing in abrading ability)?

Maroon bottle cleaner wax (no correction)
Black wax
ColorX
Ultimate Polish
White wax (most correction)
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All of these products fall within the AIO category...
except for Ultimate Polish---which must be
followed-up with an LSP for "protection".


RE: Correct order?
Without having to go into the abrading ability
of any particular AIO (many variables involved
other than just their abrasive-load) here's a
Mike Phillips article that explains AIOs quite well:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...erence-between-cleaner-wax-finishing-wax.html


Bob
 
Harpolith said:
I've read on here that Megs white wax has a fairly high abrasive content. One thread indicated that it's more abrasive than Ultimate Polish. Is this true?

Do I have these in the correct order (increasing in abrading ability)?

Maroon bottle cleaner wax (no correction)
Black wax
ColorX
Ultimate Polish
White wax (most correction)
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I'm not sure about color x but, I thought the order is:

Cleaner wax
White Wax
Black Wax
Ultimate Polish

Cleaner wax has no abrasive (or so little amount their negligable).
White wax is an AIO, with more cleaner wax properties.
Black wax is is also an AIO, but with more polish.
Ultimate Polish is a polish.

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White wax has more cleaners in it. That's why it's more effective in lighter colors (but is great for cleaning darker colors too). Black wax has more abrasives which is why it's used on dark colors (swirls are more easily seen).
 
conman1395 said:
White wax has more cleaners in it. That's why it's more effective in lighter colors (but is great for cleaning darker colors too). Black wax has more abrasives which is why it's used on dark colors (swirls are more easily seen).
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My understanding is that:
-Black Wax contains more of Meguiar's:
"polishing oils".

-White Wax has more of Meguiar's:
"cleaners"/(abrasives).


Bob
 
FUNX650 said:
My understanding is that:
-Black Wax contains more of Meguiar's:
"polishing oils".

-White Wax has more of Meguiar's:
"cleaners"/(abrasives).


Bob
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I thought that white wax had more chemical cleaners and black wax has more oils and abrasives, but if black has more fillers that would probably be more beneficial to black paint seeing that most people will buying this OTC will probably be using it by hand. I may be wrong though. In the end, I would just suggest to the OP to call Meguiar's.
 
FUNX650 said:
My understanding is that:
-Black Wax contains more of Meguiar's:
"polishing oils".

-White Wax has more of Meguiar's:
"cleaners"/(abrasives).


Bob
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This is accurate. Both do have abrasives but white wax has more of them.
 
Thanks, guys. I do realize there are other variables involved besides "abrasive load". I guess I was wondering which had a higher abrasive load- white wax or ultimate polish? Sorry I didn't ask the question in a better way. So, as far as "abrasive load" goes:
Cleaner wax
ColorX
Black wax
White wax
Ultimate polish (agreed- not an AIO)

Perhaps this is what other posts were suggesting:
But with an aggressive pad, white wax "correction" ability approaches or exceeds UP "correction" ability on a finishing pad.
 
I think White Wax is more aggressive than Ultimate Polish. From most to least aggressive:

White Wax
ColorX
Ultimate Polish
Black Wax
Cleaner Wax
 
Harpolith said:
Thanks, guys. I do realize there are other variables involved besides "abrasive load". I guess I was wondering which had a higher abrasive load- white wax or ultimate polish? Sorry I didn't ask the question in a better way. So, as far as "abrasive load" goes:
Cleaner wax
ColorX
Black wax
White wax
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Abrasives/"Abrasive load" found
in the following Meguiar's AIOs
(Listed in no particular order):

•A12 Cleaner Wax (Liquid): Calcined Kaolin
-CAS# 92704-41-1
-@ 1-5%...by Wgt.

•ColorX G118: Kaolin
-CAS# 1332-58-7
-@ 5-15%...by Wgt.

•Black Wax G62: Aluminium Oxide (non fibrous)
-CAS# 1344-28-1
-@ 1-5%...by Wgt.

•White Wax G61: Aluminium Oxide (non-fibrous)
-CAS# 1344-28-1)
-@ 6%...by Wgt.

Harpolith said:
Ultimate polish (agreed- not an AIO)
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Abrasives/"Abrasive load" found
in the following Meguiar's product
that's labeled as being a "Polish":

Meguiar's Ultimate Polish G192:
-Aluminium Oxide (non-fibrous)
-CAS# 1344-28-1
-@ 1-5%...by Wgt
_____________________________________________


Bob
 
Dang Bob!

Does this indicate that both a12, and colorx utilize an "abrasive", or are the clays used to thicken the liquid?
 
dlc95 said:
Does this indicate that both a12,
and colorx utilize an "abrasive",
or are the clays used to thicken the liquid?
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Kaolin (CAS# 1332-58-7)

Synonyms:
Aluminum Silicate; Aluminum Oxide;
Silicon Dioxide; Kaolinite; Calcined Kaolin



Bob
 
Holy Cow! This is getting down to the nitty gritty of it all right here man!

A little beyond my understanding, but cool to follow as well!
 
FUNX650 said:
Abrasives/"Abrasive load" found
in the following Meguiar's AIOs
(Listed in no particular order):

•A12 Cleaner Wax (Liquid): Calcined Kaolin
-CAS# 92704-41-1
-@ 1-5%...by Wgt.

•ColorX G118: Kaolin
-CAS# 1332-58-7
-@ 5-15%...by Wgt.

•Black Wax G62: Aluminium Oxide (non fibrous)
-CAS# 1344-28-1
-@ 1-5%...by Wgt.

•White Wax G61: Aluminium Oxide (non-fibrous)
-CAS# 1344-28-1)
-@ 6%...by Wgt.


Abrasives/"Abrasive load" found
in the following Meguiar's product
that's labeled as being a "Polish":

Meguiar's Ultimate Polish G192:
-Aluminium Oxide (non-fibrous)
-CAS# 1344-28-1
-@ 1-5%...by Wgt
_____________________________________________


Bob
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As a professional geologist, I was leaning toward detailing as a means of getting away from my work. Once again, I seem to have come full circle and now have my old sedimentology textbook on my lap... while learning about automotive polishes. Ha Thanks, Bob. When I explore new hobbies, I tend to get in deep. My last foray was naturally leavened bread- That led to spending two months in Italy chasing down old world baking masters and baking in wood fired ovens. I can now say with confidence I can make the best naturally leavened loaf in the upper Midwest! Now I'm just hoping I can get a shine on my pickup by mid-spring 2016. My GG6 can't get here fast enough. When it does, I'll quit buggin you on the forum, as I'll be down in the garage swirling my paint instead!
 
Harpolith said:
When I explore new hobbies, I tend to get in deep.
My last foray was naturally leavened bread-
That led to spending two months in Italy
chasing down old world baking masters
and baking in wood fired ovens.
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^^^ Cool story ^^^

Sounds like you need to plan another road
trip to see how kaolin deposits are mined.
Someplace like Georgia, USA.

Or, perhaps, to a more exotic locale like
Jiangxi province in China. :dblthumb2:
Note:
The "Kaolin name" is derived from the
Chinese: Kao-Ling/pinyin Gāolǐng (高岭/高嶺)


Bob
 
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