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04lss

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Hi all,

Ive mentioned in other threads that I recently got my hands on a dream car of mine a 2021 camaro in summit white. The paint is in excellent condition minus some iron contamination i plan to deal with by clay-baring the car.
I want to do a proper ceramic coating on this thing. Ive tried the chemical guys hydro slick, (wasnt impressed) and the Griots ceramic spray wax (which i love), but i want something more robust. Id also like to do a fine polish job on the car. I want it to look its absolute best. Id like to get feedback and suggestions for a few products.

1. 6" DA pads ( i have a set of hexlogic, but i recently read that they can actually mar paint)
2. Light duty polish to bring out the shine on paint that doesn't need correction (I normally use meguiars 205)
3. Ceramic coating.

I have experience waxing, polishing etc, but ive never applied a true ceramic coating. Id like something that is workable by a beginner, but that will give good protection. I also don't have access to a garage where i can store the car overnight. I do have a cannopy i can use to provide shade while working on the car.

I am considering Gyeon q2 one, or carpro cquartz

Plan is to use a strip wash on the paint, Claybar, polish, use paint prep spray (like Gyeon paint prep) Then apply the coating.
 
Rupes yellow pads in your choice of size
CarPro Essence for polish
CarPro UK3.0 x 2 coats
Top w/ Reload for sacrificial layer since it can not stay indoors while curing
 
fly07sti said:
Rupes yellow pads in your choice of size
CarPro Essence for polish
CarPro UK3.0 x 2 coats
Top w/ Reload for sacrificial layer since it can not stay indoors while curing
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I second this.

Imo there is only one polish to use on white and that's Essence.

I would also do 2 coats of Uk 3.0 or
one of Uk 3.0 then top it with Cquartz SiC
 
I agree with the Rupes yellow pads. I've only got one in my inventory of pads to try out, but I make sure to rotate it in every time I work on a car.

I've had great luck with the Griots BOSS polishes. The Finishing Creme is really good. Great finish and easy to work with.

As for coatings, UK 3.0 is easy to endorse like the others have said; you can never go wrong with it.
 
Congrats on the Camaro!

I recently purchased a 2018 Camaro in summit white also. not a pro by any means, but just this weekend finished polishing it, and am really happy with how it turned out!!!

My car had 6k miles when I bought it and it definitely had some more micro marring and swirls than your car probably.

based on recommendations on here, I ended up doing sonax cut max with a blue HDO pad, followed by sonax perfect finish with the yellow rupes pad. Originally wanted to just do the yellow rupes pad with the perfect finish, but was not getting enough cut with just the yellow rupes pad and perfect finish.

Will be coating it with CSL and EXO as from what I am seeing, it is slightly easier to apply, but we will see. I will get some pics up when i am done and get a chance. really hoping i dont get a ton of high spots as i am all polished out!! lol
 
04lss said:
Hi all,

Ive mentioned in other threads that I recently got my hands on a dream car of mine a 2021 camaro in summit white. The paint is in excellent condition minus some iron contamination i plan to deal with by clay-baring the car.
I want to do a proper ceramic coating on this thing. Ive tried the chemical guys hydro slick, (wasnt impressed) and the Griots ceramic spray wax (which i love), but i want something more robust. Id also like to do a fine polish job on the car. I want it to look its absolute best. Id like to get feedback and suggestions for a few products.

1. 6" DA pads ( i have a set of hexlogic, but i recently read that they can actually mar paint)
2. Light duty polish to bring out the shine on paint that doesn't need correction (I normally use meguiars 205)
3. Ceramic coating.

I have experience waxing, polishing etc, but ive never applied a true ceramic coating. Id like something that is workable by a beginner, but that will give good protection. I also don't have access to a garage where i can store the car overnight. I do have a cannopy i can use to provide shade while working on the car.

I am considering Gyeon q2 one, or carpro cquartz

Plan is to use a strip wash on the paint, Claybar, polish, use paint prep spray (like Gyeon paint prep) Then apply the coating.
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Congrats on the new car. The good thing is white hides a lot. The bad thing is it is not one of the easiest colors to coat. Your plan sounds solid.

As far as coatings there are many good options these days. I have not used Gyeon One so I can't comment on it's performance. Budgetplan used it and he topped it with CanCoat which he enjoyed.

You can't go wrong with Cquartz UK 3.0. I did enjoy the application of 22ple Insanity and is one of the glossiest coatings I have used. Their HPC is also nice to apply.

I have used many coatings and most are good. There are also the new graphene infused coatings as well.
 
Decided on NV Nova Evo for coating on my summit white. Kamikaze was a close second and would have been 1st if i felt like doing 2 coats.

Agree with essence as you don’t need much or any cut. Griots correcting cream if you do.

I use the Boss pads mainly and would recommend if you use a Griots polisher.... yellow ones.

Will probably use Kamikaze or CSL on my Chevelle.


Lastly CQUK3 is an amazing coating. Used it on my last car and highly recommend.


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Coatingsarecrack said:
Will probably use Kamikaze or CSL on my Chevelle.
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What Kamikaze coating you pondering?

I can tell ya Kamikaze Zipang is nothing short of amazing.

You have any pictures of your Chevelle on here? Don't see ya posting it much.....
 
98CayenneTA said:
What Kamikaze coating you pondering?

I can tell ya Kamikaze Zipang is nothing short of amazing.

You have any pictures of your Chevelle on here? Don't see ya posting it much.....
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Im thinking ism 1.0 and Miyabi. I don’t mind spending money on detailing where needed but can’t get myself to bite the bullet on 2 things.... Zipang and an IBrid.

My Chevelle is on here somewhere but no thread for it yet. I will start one when I get to detailing it as i will have alot of questions.

Couple of old pics:

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Coatingsarecrack said:
Decided on NV Nova Evo for coating on my summit white. Kamikaze was a close second and would have been 1st if i felt like doing 2 coats.

Agree with essence as you don’t need much or any cut. Griots correcting cream if you do.

I use the Boss pads mainly and would recommend if you use a Griots polisher.... yellow ones.

Will probably use Kamikaze or CSL on my Chevelle.


Lastly CQUK3 is an amazing coating. Used it on my last car and highly recommend.


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You will want to use Exo. CSL by itself is rather blah in its hydrophobic behavior.
 
The Guz said:
You will want to use Exo. CSL by itself is rather blah in its hydrophobic behavior.
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My thinking is it will never see rain so i’m more interested in marring resistance and looks.

I know marring resistance is not gonna be great with any coating but when it is washed, it will mostly be rinsless’s

Your recent comments on 22ple insanity has me thinking that also along with Ammo Reflex Pro, and Adam’s new graphene coating.

How many layers do you need with insanity?

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The Guz said:
As far as coatings there are many good options these days. I have not used Gyeon One so I can't comment on it's performance. Budgetplan used it and he topped it with CanCoat which he enjoyed.
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While Gyeon One + CanCoat did very well (especially considering the somewhat unconventional maintenance routine) was one of the most unpleasant applications of any I have used. Not difficult per se, just not fun.

Notes from application follow up:

Gyeon One

The results were nice, but application was the stickiest once it hit the paint that I’ve ever used. Forgiving with respect to the amount of time you have to buff off missed high spots but very arduous removing/buffing. This was topped with CanCoat soon after application, it’s performing quite well. Maintenance on this car is weekly washes…using Dawn or Joy dish soap to wash. I can’t control what happens after the cars leave me. Holding up nicely regardless.
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Coatingsarecrack said:
Decided on NV Nova Evo for coating on my summit white. Kamikaze was a close second and would have been 1st if i felt like doing 2 coats.

Agree with essence as you don’t need much or any cut. Griots correcting cream if you do.

I use the Boss pads mainly and would recommend if you use a Griots polisher.... yellow ones.

Will probably use Kamikaze or CSL on my Chevelle.


Lastly CQUK3 is an amazing coating. Used it on my last car and highly recommend.


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How did you find the NV Nova Evo. NV is popular here and sold and developed by the main detailing shop I use here in Aus.

Considering this for my next coating after CarPro Lite is done.

How did you find application and how much of the bottle did you use?


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vaca22 said:
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White needs all the help it can get to achieve any kind of depth and imo Essence high gloss polishing primer does the best job of adding depth, gloss, flow ect.

White when polished is blinding in direct sunlight so imo where white can really shine is in dimmer more indirect light.
During the day, dusk and dawn are whites small window to represent lol and I feel Essence gives white the best chance at achieving that.
 
98CayenneTA said:
White needs all the help it can get to achieve any kind of depth and imo Essence high gloss polishing primer does the best job of adding depth, gloss, flow ect.

White when polished is blinding in direct sunlight so imo where white can really shine is in dimmer more indirect light.
During the day, dusk and dawn are whites small window to represent lol and I feel Essence gives white the best chance at achieving that.
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Perfect, great to know!

And yes, one thing I discovered last year is that I was Manfred Mann'd (BLINDED BY THE LIIIIGHT) when I rolled my ride out into the sun, even with sunglasses.

Just like The Guz mentioned, the white hides a LOT, but it's not the easiest to coat without proper lighting. On the first overcast day following the coating, I found several high spots. I like your comment about dusk and dawn being the small window for white to represent LOL That is the truth, man!
 
98CayenneTA said:
White when polished is blinding in direct sunlight so imo where white can really shine is in dimmer more indirect light.
During the day, dusk and dawn are whites small window to represent lol and I feel Essence gives white the best chance at achieving that.
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I would also say there is a dramatic difference between polished out white and a white car that has been simply kept clean. In addition to the gloss, the actual color is different. Think fresh fallen snow vs a piece of paper. Put the two together and the paper will look dingy. A well polished white car will look like the snow.
 
rover137 said:
How did you find the NV Nova Evo. NV is popular here and sold and developed by the main detailing shop I use here in Aus.

Considering this for my next coating after CarPro Lite is done.

How did you find application and how much of the bottle did you use?


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I have not applied. Will go on at end of summer. Currently wearing DoDo ShineCraft.

Theirs a US distributor. Parks Car Care. Have seen great reviews and BudgetPlan 1 gave it his thumbs up so far.


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Coatingsarecrack said:
I have not applied. Will go on at end of summer. Currently wearing DoDo ShineCraft.

Theirs a US distributor. Parks Car Care. Have seen great reviews and BudgetPlan 1 gave it his thumbs up so far.


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Nice. Let us know how you go! I do like the idea of only one coat, but also worry that I wouldn’t get even coverage. I read BudgetPlan’s review and it was good!

I have a heap of their products and all but but one have been very good. I have their panel wipe, snow foams, tire dressing, wheel cleaner and some other things. I actually really rate the wheel cleaner and tire dressing. Nice matte finish and lasts a few weeks. The wheel cleaner is a cleaner + iron remover and it’s been my favorite so far. The NV Snow I don’t really like, but I love their stronger NV Snow+.


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