Sealant comparison

^^It's been deconned: IronX'd, clayed, compound, polished, and prepped with Gyeon. I usually use a solvent. Will move to a designed prep polish going forward.
 
Had a week of mostly sunny weather. I washed with N-914 then hosed it off. My subjective observations:

  • Water flying off: Collinite, FK 1000, Track Claw, DG 111, and Sonax PNS
  • Moving fairly quickly: DG 105
  • Slower, but working: Optiseal, Paintguard+, Sonus Ion, WG DGS
  • Barely working: Mystery sealant
  • Water not moving: Griot's One Step, Sonus Acrylic Glanz
The top group still doing well. Beading on Collinite is much different than the others - no judgement, just an observation. Sonus Acrylic Glanz is barely working, I'm calling it done. Mystery sealant appears to be almost done. Working a consolidated scorecard.

Please keep in mind that conditions vary widely. At best I'm measuring relative performance between these products. In a different environment longevity would almost certainly be different.

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Dang, I'm REALLY disappointed in the Griot's One-Step-Sealant

I was really hoping for better, that's odd that it failed so insanely fast!!

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VETLAG said:
Dang, I'm REALLY disappointed in the Griot's One-Step-Sealant

I was really hoping for better, that's odd that it failed so insanely fast!!

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So with my environment where I live in the desert I find out all the claims pretty much don't exist here that's why I love seeing these tests because we can get a better idea of how the environments that these parts are used in greatly very the outcome of the longevity of them so how the Price Slasher the desert for me compared to how they last in wet environments like that

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RippyD said:
Had a week of mostly sunny weather. I washed with N-914 then hosed it off. My subjective observations:

  • Water flying off: Collinite, FK 1000, Track Claw, DG 111, and Sonax PNS
  • Moving fairly quickly: DG 105
  • Slower, but working: Optiseal, Paintguard+, Sonus Ion, WG DGS
  • Barely working: Mystery sealant
  • Water not moving: Griot's One Step, Sonus Acrylic Glanz
The top group still doing well. Beading on Collinite is much different than the others - no judgement, just an observation. Sonus Acrylic Glanz is barely working, I'm calling it done. Mystery sealant appears to be almost done. Working a consolidated scorecard.

Please keep in mind that conditions vary widely. At best I'm measuring relative performance between these products. In a different environment longevity would almost certainly be different.

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DG111 is my #1 durable sealant. With 601 It's turbo boosted! The gloss and slicknessis incredible, as is the durability/longevity.

I've been using 501 for one steps, and It's been getting rave reviews from my customers. Not only does it cut and clean well, but the finish and durability is better than the M66 I had been using.

I've been also using some D166 that Meghan sent me, but that sour apple scent make me want to puke! It works well cleaning up the paint, but I have to wait and see about durability.

So far, I want to give 501 the nod for that application. I still need to try it with cutting foam and Microfiber pads too. So far, I use it with black Buff and Shine finishing pads. On nicer vehicles, I'll use the 101. Polished/newer will get the 111.
 
dlc95 said:
DG111 is my #1 durable sealant. With 601 It's turbo boosted! The gloss and slicknessis incredible, as is the durability/longevity.

I've been using 501 for one steps, and It's been getting rave reviews from my customers. Not only does it cut and clean well, but the finish and durability is better than the M66 I had been using.

I've been also using some D166 that Meghan sent me, but that sour apple scent make me want to puke! It works well cleaning up the paint, but I have to wait and see about durability.

So far, I want to give 501 the nod for that application. I still need to try it with cutting foam and Microfiber pads too. So far, I use it with black Buff and Shine finishing pads. On nicer vehicles, I'll use the 101. Polished/newer will get the 111.
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Have u tried Meg's 151?? It's much better then 66 and is the middle ground between 66 and 166

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Cruzscarwash said:
Have u tried Meg's 151?? It's much better then 66 and is the middle ground between 66 and 166

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I haven't yet. When the gallon of M66 is gone, I'll try it then. From what I gather, it won't hold up as long as the 501.
 
VETLAG said:
Dang, I'm REALLY disappointed in the Griot's One-Step-Sealant
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Me too. But... I applied it by hand. It seems to be more of an AIO than a straight sealant. If I recall Cruz seemed have pretty short durability with it as an AIO as well.

Cruzscarwash said:
So with my environment where I live in the desert I find out all the claims pretty much don't exist here
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Same here. Sitting out in rain 95% of the time for 7 months is different from a garage queen that goes out in mostly dry weather. And I'm washing these sealants weekly.

I may re-test some of these once I get through the rest to see how the consistency is across 2 applications. I'm pulling for the wipe-on-walk-away sealants because I like the application process so much.
 
RippyD said:
Me too. But... I applied it by hand. It seems to be more of an AIO than a straight sealant. If I recall Cruz seemed have pretty short durability with it as an AIO as well.
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Cruz actually tested Griot's BOSS Sealant and the longevity was terrible. However, with that said, One-Step-Sealant appears to be even worse!!! Lol. Griot's had told me that the One-Step-Sealant would last much longer than the BOSS Sealant, but that doesn't appear to be the case in your test.

I used One-Step-Sealant on my truck and it's still beading great, however it gets washed weekly & I use Griot's Spray Wax as a drying aid. I'm guessing it's actually the spray wax giving me the beading action
 
With a all in one, I think the longevity of protection might depend on how much the product is worked also, maybe not.


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Dereksdtail said:
With a all in one, I think the longevity of protection might depend on how much the product is worked also, maybe not.


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That's very possible, I did apply by machine with 4 section passes.

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That's something I've thought about for a while, I haven't seen much mention about it for all in ones but you would think, if the product is worked extensively, it might do mess with the properties of the sealant


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Yea, RippyD made mention of it in an earlier post, about if it needed to be heat activated it was in trouble because he applied by hand lol. I'm wondering if maybe that is a bigger factor than we realize?

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Could be it the AIO's need to be worked. Will try do double back and try them with a DA once I get more progress made.
 
VETLAG said:
I used One-Step-Sealant on my truck and it's still beading great, however it gets washed weekly & I use Griot's Spray Wax as a drying aid. I'm guessing it's actually the spray wax giving me the beading action
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I'd be willing to bet that's the case.

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Could be it the AIO's need to be worked. Will try do double back and try them with a DA once I get more progress made.
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I'm starting to think that the time allowed to haze on the paint prior to wiping it off plays an important role in the longevity of an AIO. I believe I heard a Meguiars rep say something about that in regards to their new D166, and in my initial testing of it I did notice the beading was next to non existent on the panels where I treated it more like a compound vs. the panels where I gave it adequate time to haze.
 
I gave all the non-WOWOs time to haze. At least 15 minutes unless they weren't completely dry, then longer. One of them specified longer in the instructions, which I followed. (If I recall that was Sonus Ion.) Drying time for the non-WOWOs wasn't an issue.
 
Have two weeks of updates in this post. Didn't get a chance to do this last week and could not get a good pic. White is tough trying to show water in flat light.

I checked it on Nov 7th, first washing with McKee's N-914 at rinseless dilution. All 4 products on the right side of the hood were doing well. 845 is sheeting water the fastest, but the others aren't far behind. DG 105 and Sonax PNS working more slowly. WG DGS still hanging on, but water is moving off it very slowly. Note that this was done at 34 degrees. Didn't know if that would have impacted water movement. Everything is showing no water movement after 30 seconds or so. Note that when it rains they all bead well and similarly. However, I also can't easily differentiate tape lines. So not sure how to read that.


Pic from the 7th. Very hard to see anything. I had to look from every possible angle to see what was happening. Stupid white car.
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Checked today as well when it was about 50 degrees out. Same results today: 845 FK1000, Track Claw, DG 111 all doing well. DG 105 and Sonax PNS working but more slowly than the other 4. WG DGS still hanging in.

This was taken right after flooding with water. You can see the right side is clear and tape lines are visible. You can see water still moving off for the other three sections. No visible water moving on the rest of the hood. I washed with Reset at 500:1 before testing.
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One more note: I have another 10 or so products to try. I'll get those on the Sentra hood and roof in the next day or two and leave it in a heated garage overnight to cure.
 
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