minerigger
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Be curious what 476 does
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Me too. I assume it will perform better than 845. Likely going to be able to reapply some to the Rover hood soon. And I have at least 10 test panels on the Sentra opened up - just need the time to apply them.
I don't have any 476. I can ask in the Samples thread.
I don't have any 476. I can ask in the Samples thread.
minerigger
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I don't either, KlasseAct told me it lasts longer and if it does that's just nuts
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It seems to be generally that 476 and 915 last longer than 845. I think 476 is the longest.
If I get some I'll see how it does here. Winter here is just endless, wet, dark, dreary, wet, mossy, wet rain. Cars outside are pretty much wet for 8 months straight and have a lot of contamination. I was going to post this pad pic when I show the new sealants on the Sentra, but may as well do so now.
I polished the hood a couple of weeks ago with a finishing polish and white pad. At the start of these tests I decon'd, compounded, and polished the hood. When I polished it again I was surprised at how dirty the pad was. Not terrible, but very visible dirt on it just after a few weeks. I assume it's due to the rain per Mike's post about it.
This is a white pad that was stained green by some glass polish. Dirt is most noticeable on the outside edge.
If I get some I'll see how it does here. Winter here is just endless, wet, dark, dreary, wet, mossy, wet rain. Cars outside are pretty much wet for 8 months straight and have a lot of contamination. I was going to post this pad pic when I show the new sealants on the Sentra, but may as well do so now.
I polished the hood a couple of weeks ago with a finishing polish and white pad. At the start of these tests I decon'd, compounded, and polished the hood. When I polished it again I was surprised at how dirty the pad was. Not terrible, but very visible dirt on it just after a few weeks. I assume it's due to the rain per Mike's post about it.
This is a white pad that was stained green by some glass polish. Dirt is most noticeable on the outside edge.
minerigger
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That's crazy really how much dirt is already back on the paint.
Wonder if 476 or 915 have better gloss/shine/look after application than the 845. I'm floored with this on the wife's paint. I previously did megs #26 in liquid applied via pc on speed 3 with a 5.5 red ccs pad and thought it was ok. Can't imagine a wax or sealant meant for darker cars
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Wonder if 476 or 915 have better gloss/shine/look after application than the 845. I'm floored with this on the wife's paint. I previously did megs #26 in liquid applied via pc on speed 3 with a 5.5 red ccs pad and thought it was ok. Can't imagine a wax or sealant meant for darker cars
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From Collinite:
1. No.476s – most durable protection/weather defense. Most elbow grease required during application.
2. No. 915- 2nd most durable and slightly easier than the 476s to apply/remove. No. 915 lends our warmest shine to dark tones like navy and black due to its highest concentration of rare carnauba.
3. No. 845- easiest of the 3 to apply/remove with slightly less durability than the No. 915.
2. No. 915- 2nd most durable and slightly easier than the 476s to apply/remove. No. 915 lends our warmest shine to dark tones like navy and black due to its highest concentration of rare carnauba.
3. No. 845- easiest of the 3 to apply/remove with slightly less durability than the No. 915.
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Haven't disappeared or forgotten about this. Been crazy and work and holiday stuff at home. About 3 weeks ago the Rover hood had very light rain overnight and the tape lines were clear for every section. Tried to get a pic which didn't come out very well. About 2 weeks ago I did a wash and got the same results: the 4 products on the right side are doing well, everything else is showing no sheeting.
Goal is to get picture updates posted this weekend and get a bunch of new products on the Sentra.
Goal is to get picture updates posted this weekend and get a bunch of new products on the Sentra.
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It's been cold here the last few weeks. Not as cold as many of you, but too cold to be working with water outside.
Put 6 more sealants on the Sentra hood. It got polished a few weeks ago and has been out in the rain. Before applying the sealants I prepped with N-914 at 8:1 and then washed twice with N-914 at Rinseless.
The two mystery sealants came from a pro here (most of you would know him.) Garage was about 58 degrees when they were applied. It went down to 54 overnight and will be about 60 mid-day today. These will cure in the garage for 30 hour or more. I have several more products to try - will get them on the Sentra roof when I can find time.
Rover update: I washed it with Reset them put the hose to it. Note that it was ~30 degrees out and water was moving slowly. I didn't see any ice, but temp may be a factor.
As soon as I took the water off it this happened. Not subtle at all. The 845 is way ahead of the others right now.
Hard to see in this picture that FK1000, Track Claw, and DG 111 are still working but have slowed down relative to 845. I need to try this again when it's not below freezing.
Sonax PNS still hanging in there. Almost on par with FK1000 and DG 111.
Put 6 more sealants on the Sentra hood. It got polished a few weeks ago and has been out in the rain. Before applying the sealants I prepped with N-914 at 8:1 and then washed twice with N-914 at Rinseless.
The two mystery sealants came from a pro here (most of you would know him.) Garage was about 58 degrees when they were applied. It went down to 54 overnight and will be about 60 mid-day today. These will cure in the garage for 30 hour or more. I have several more products to try - will get them on the Sentra roof when I can find time.
Rover update: I washed it with Reset them put the hose to it. Note that it was ~30 degrees out and water was moving slowly. I didn't see any ice, but temp may be a factor.
As soon as I took the water off it this happened. Not subtle at all. The 845 is way ahead of the others right now.
Hard to see in this picture that FK1000, Track Claw, and DG 111 are still working but have slowed down relative to 845. I need to try this again when it's not below freezing.
Sonax PNS still hanging in there. Almost on par with FK1000 and DG 111.
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Thanks for the update. CG V07 likely won't make it a week in your environment. In Sunny So Cal weather, it didn't last at all for me! One try. That's all the chance I gave it (after trying CG Butter Wax that lasted less than a week).
I'm curious as to how long those mystery ones will last in your environment
I'm curious as to how long those mystery ones will last in your environment
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I'm excited to see the resultsWe'll see how they do. I have no idea what they are, btw. I got application instructions and applied them.
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looking forward to seeing the results too! Your environment is a bit more like our's here in NJ.
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After about 30 hours in the garage the new sealants on the hood went outside. Couple of days of rain, including some heavy rain last night and this morning.
The hood before I washed it. You can see some beading differences.
Washed with N-914 at waterless concentration and then hit it with the hose. This is it immediately after flooding.
A few seconds later...
All working. Crystal Seal and CG V07 a little behind the others.
The hood before I washed it. You can see some beading differences.
Washed with N-914 at waterless concentration and then hit it with the hose. This is it immediately after flooding.
A few seconds later...
All working. Crystal Seal and CG V07 a little behind the others.
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Washed the Rover hood with N-914 @ waterless and hit it with the hose. Temp was about 40 degrees. Sonax PNS appears to be largely done. Collinite 845 still performing the best, FK 1000 right behind it, Track Claw and DG 111 hanging in there - they're taking ~20 seconds to remove all the water.
Some of these may improve with a light claying. I'll try next week. Double edged sword since it may improve sheeting but also some sealant.
As a reminder, we're nearing 3 months since these were applied and they've seen about 50% rain. We got about an inch yesterday. These sealants are getting a lot of exposure.
Left side right after water removed.
Left side a few seconds later.
Right side. You can see a little action from PNS. It did eventually clear most of that section.
Some of these may improve with a light claying. I'll try next week. Double edged sword since it may improve sheeting but also some sealant.
As a reminder, we're nearing 3 months since these were applied and they've seen about 50% rain. We got about an inch yesterday. These sealants are getting a lot of exposure.
Left side right after water removed.
Left side a few seconds later.
Right side. You can see a little action from PNS. It did eventually clear most of that section.
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Rover doing about the same. I clayed the hood which brought Sonax PNS back to life. 845 still doing the best, FK1000 a little behind that, Track Claw and DG 111 a little behind those. Sonax PNS performing about as well as FK1000, maybe DG 111 since it was clayed.
Left side
Right side
Sentra immediately after hitting it with the hose
A few minutes later
EDIT: Weather in December was about 50/50 clear vs. rainy. We had a cold snap with ice and a little snow. Mild winter so far. These sealants have seen about 8 inches of rain total in November and December.
Left side
Right side
Sentra immediately after hitting it with the hose
A few minutes later
EDIT: Weather in December was about 50/50 clear vs. rainy. We had a cold snap with ice and a little snow. Mild winter so far. These sealants have seen about 8 inches of rain total in November and December.
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Looks like the ones I sent you are doing well still, it's still early but they look goodRover doing about the same. I clayed the hood which brought Sonax PNS back to life. 845 still doing the best, FK1000 a little behind that, Track Claw and DG 111 a little behind those. Sonax PNS performing about as well as FK1000, maybe DG 111 since it was clayed.
Left side
Right side
Sentra immediately after hitting it with the hose
A few minutes later
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