Really???

It's always amazing when people really marry themselves to a brand. Whether it's motorcycles (and yes, it's easy to pick on the H-D riders, but there are metric motorcycle riders who are JUST as brand loyal and love to bash H-D), or cars.

I mentioned this in another thread; but I had a conversation with someone the other day about a car (don't remember what car actually). They then said "Yeah, those are awesome. I wish Chevrolet would make one like that so I could have one". This guy was such a Chevrolet worshiper that they would only get the car they wanted if Chevrolet made it.

Now, I have my favorite brands. Nothing wrong with that! But when you become a brand worshiper, nobody wins.

It's bad for your favorite brand, too! Look at the Big 3 auto makers in the US. They coasted along while getting trounced by Japanese and German manufacturers in nearly every category (performance, reliability, fuel economy, price, etc.) They did this because the American market was brand loyal to ONE of the big 3, and would buy whatever they sell. If you're a Ford guy and want a Sedan? You get a Taurus. No ifs ands or butts, and definitely no research. Only NOW, that sales are starting to shift towards imports (and thousands of jaded workers are buying imports because their hard work and loyalty to the company didn't pay off when they figured out Mexico was cheaper!), are the Big 3 getting better. Much better in fact. It's a BEAUTIFUL thing when competition drives innovation! The BEST thing an Adams polish fan could do, is research and even try other brands. (Or a fan of anything else).

Admittedly, I'm a Ford guy. Always liked them, liked the looks, like the technologies. But I always shop around! And, I've owned many vehicles other than Ford! (Even Chrysler and GM products! Gasp!). 'Cuz if you ain't got the best one for my money, then you ain't gettin' my money!
 
Agree- some people get so caught up in a brand of car they miss the short-comings of the brand.

I personally love a variety of cars, detail products, bikes, you name it. I look more for the best product for me, not the name.

Beyond brand-brainwashing... just don't push your agenda on me. If I come to you then it's a whole different ballgame.
 
DetailKitty said:
Agree- some people get so caught up in a brand of car they miss the short-comings of the brand.

I personally love a variety of cars, detail products, bikes, you name it. I look more for the best product for me, not the name.

Beyond brand-brainwashing... just don't push your agenda on me. If I come to you then it's a whole different ballgame.
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Sure. I've let people know I like something before. But it's always in a "Hey you should check this out" sort of way.

What I don't get is; what exactly do you gain from getting someone else to buy your stuff? They surely aren't paying commission! I can only assume it helps them to affirm their own purchasing decisions. I just bought a a set of Microfiber towels. I bought them because I wanted them. I have yet to feel a burning desire to make everyone else buy the same towels because I want to feel like I made the right purchasing decision! That's the power that research and being intentionally non-brand-loyal gets ya!
 
I'm surprised he hasn't said this to you..."Its a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand!"

LOL:-)

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Romans5.8 said:
Sure. I've let people know I like something before. But it's always in a "Hey you should check this out" sort of way.

What I don't get is; what exactly do you gain from getting someone else to buy your stuff? They surely aren't paying commission! I can only assume it helps them to affirm their own purchasing decisions. I just bought a a set of Microfiber towels. I bought them because I wanted them. I have yet to feel a burning desire to make everyone else buy the same towels because I want to feel like I made the right purchasing decision! That's the power that research and being intentionally non-brand-loyal gets ya!
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Why is it a virtue to be non-brand loyal, but a sin to be non-retailer loyal?
 
For some reason, when i finished reading ur 1st post, i had a thought that this person drives a big v8 engine lol.

But anyways, there are certain products from Adams that really excels. Not all, but there is a few.

Also is it possible that this idiot dude is just trying to strike up a conversation with you lol? But obviously he's doing it in the wrong way
 
Dogfather said:
Why is it a virtue to be non-brand loyal, but a sin to be non-retailer loyal?
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If you are referring to my other comments on threads about retailers; I'm not advocating retailer loyalty. Just, not wasting peoples time. IF you use the retailers expertise or services, you should strongly consider buying from them. I think that it's wrong (personally) to do things like trying on shoes at the shoe store, asking an employee at the shoe store to help you find them, and then going home and buying them online having never intended to buy them at the shoe store. It takes advantage of the people in the store.

Now that is different than, say, going to the shoe store, and not finding the shoes you want! If they can't make the sale, well then, that's business. But if they DO make the sale (find you the shoe, or car, or detail products, etc.), then to me it seems right to award them your business. They've done the work, they should get paid. That is, at least, my opinion.

The shoe store example is an easy one but it's common. Again back to me and my motorcycles; it's becoming increasingly hard to find stores that stock helmets to try on. Why? People try them on, and then by them online to save $10 or $20. So the retailers just stopped carrying them. Believe it or not, helmets are something that absolutely need to be tried on. It's not even just an issue of size, but fit. Some brands fit better than others. That's what can happen when you take advantage of a retailer but don't offer them your business.

I shop around, shop online, and try to find the best price. But what I, personally, think is wrong; is going into some retailer (online or otherwise), to get their help or expertise, with NO intention of buying from them. Imagine if your boss at work asked you to show someone how to be your 'assistant', by teaching them how to do your job. Only your boss never intended to get you an assistant, all along he intended to replace you with a cheaper employee who could do the same things you can do. It happens all the time in business and it's awful! And, to me, it's similar to asking people to take their time and money to help you decide on a product, without ever intending to buy it from them (but intending to buy the same product elsewhere, because while 'elsewhere' is cheaper, they don't offer the service you needed to pick it out).


My $0.02. YMMV!
 
You might look down, but I work in parts retail and if you call me and just want a bulb or filter number and I think you're at walmart....well, you'll be upset when you get home.


Roman, you need a cycle gear around! Place is awesome, but I get your point and 100% agree. I have a local Adams dealer and I buy from him for just a little more than online. He's there with it in stock and no shipping cost so it usually saves me a bit unless there is a sale. I'm wanting a Flex, and he's offered a few times to test drive his and I just won't do it. I've messed with them before, but I'm still on the fence with Rules, and I won't be buying it from him if I do decide flex. I'll wait for a 15% no exclusions and free shipping sale. Something he can't come close to matching (I felt like a jerk discussing the price with him to see if it would be close).


Detail kitty, whenever you wanna get even with him print out a zaino product sheet. You can be elite too!
 
Romans5.8 said:
If you are referring to my other comments on threads about retailers; I'm not advocating retailer loyalty. Just, not wasting peoples time. IF you use the retailers expertise or services, you should strongly consider buying from them. I think that it's wrong (personally) to do things like trying on shoes at the shoe store, asking an employee at the shoe store to help you find them, and then going home and buying them online having never intended to buy them at the shoe store. It takes advantage of the people in the store.

Now that is different than, say, going to the shoe store, and not finding the shoes you want! If they can't make the sale, well then, that's business. But if they DO make the sale (find you the shoe, or car, or detail products, etc.), then to me it seems right to award them your business. They've done the work, they should get paid. That is, at least, my opinion.

The shoe store example is an easy one but it's common. Again back to me and my motorcycles; it's becoming increasingly hard to find stores that stock helmets to try on. Why? People try them on, and then by them online to save $10 or $20. So the retailers just stopped carrying them. Believe it or not, helmets are something that absolutely need to be tried on. It's not even just an issue of size, but fit. Some brands fit better than others. That's what can happen when you take advantage of a retailer but don't offer them your business.

I shop around, shop online, and try to find the best price. But what I, personally, think is wrong; is going into some retailer (online or otherwise), to get their help or expertise, with NO intention of buying from them. Imagine if your boss at work asked you to show someone how to be your 'assistant', by teaching them how to do your job. Only your boss never intended to get you an assistant, all along he intended to replace you with a cheaper employee who could do the same things you can do. It happens all the time in business and it's awful! And, to me, it's similar to asking people to take their time and money to help you decide on a product, without ever intending to buy it from them (but intending to buy the same product elsewhere, because while 'elsewhere' is cheaper, they don't offer the service you needed to pick it out).


My $0.02. YMMV!
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2¢ ? Wow, that's some exchange rate!:props:
 
davidg said:
You might look down, but I work in parts retail and if you call me and just want a bulb or filter number and I think you're at walmart....well, you'll be upset when you get home.


Roman, you need a cycle gear around! Place is awesome, but I get your point and 100% agree. I have a local Adams dealer and I buy from him for just a little more than online. He's there with it in stock and no shipping cost so it usually saves me a bit unless there is a sale. I'm wanting a Flex, and he's offered a few times to test drive his and I just won't do it. I've messed with them before, but I'm still on the fence with Rules, and I won't be buying it from him if I do decide flex. I'll wait for a 15% no exclusions and free shipping sale. Something he can't come close to matching (I felt like a jerk discussing the price with him to see if it would be close).


Detail kitty, whenever you wanna get even with him print out a zaino product sheet. You can be elite too!
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I feel ya man.

We do have a Cycle Gear in St.Louis. So that's a little over an hour away. But the helmet example actually relates to the dealers. Once in a while I have to go in and get parts or something; and it'd be nice if they still carried a good selection of helmets, gloves, gear, etc. They carry very little anymore (all three of the dealers within an hour from me). It's a waste of floor space. Products are constantly tried on, but never bought. Not when they are $10 cheaper on Amazon!

In fact, the last time I bought motorcycle boots I had to buy them sight-unseen online. Nobody had any. It was either a Harley Dealer for some overpriced work boots with Harley logos on them, or a place like Cycle Gear that only stocked crazy looking track boots. I just wanted some good, comfortable touring boots with a zip up side. Found some online, had to return them and get another pair that fit right. Oh well!
 
Monica, I have an idea, tell him you bought and tried the Adam's products, used them on your car and want to show him he was right. When you go outside to show him I GUARANTEE you that he'll say something like "see, I told you your car would look better!"

LOL!

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Klasse Act said:
Monica, I have an idea, tell him you bought and tried the Adam's products, used them on your car and want to show him he was right. When you go outside to show him I GUARANTEE you that he'll say something like "see, I told you your car would look better!"

LOL!

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Oooh, that actually sounds like a FANTASTIC idea!

"See that... see that shine? You wouldn't have gotten that shine from the products you were using. Now aren't you glad I convinced you?"
 
The funny part about this guy is the fact that he pays someone else to detail his car.
 
runrun411 said:
The funny part about this guy is the fact that he pays someone else to detail his car.
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So he buys what he feels is the best product on earth and hands it over to the guy whom details his ride, yeah right, probably applies a coat of the Adam's to his own ride and then uses the old Meg's in the burgendy bottle to do his SRT8 Cherokee, LOL!

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runrun411 said:
The funny part about this guy is the fact that he pays someone else to detail his car.
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Yeah.... His detailer, who also works with me and uses Adams actually knows what he's doing. This is how the monster was created.
I actually yelled at the guy and told him that's for created this mess Hahahahaha
 
What kind of car does the detailer have?

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