Introducing!! Pinnacle black label!!!

Nick@Autogeek said:
It is a superior formulation, but saying one is better than the other is an oxymoron to begin with.

It's like saying "My Ferrari 458 is faster than your Porsche Carrera 4S"

REALLY?!

They're both exceptional products that are intended for different crowds.
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Nick,

You may want to look-up the definition of oxymoron.

One famous oxymoron is the phrase "the same difference." This phrase qualifies as an oxymoron because the words "same" and "difference" have completely opposite meanings. Therefore, bringing them together into one phrase produces a verbally puzzling, yet engaging, effect.

Other examples:

clearly confused
deafening silence
pretty ugly
original copy

You get the idea.

So, a comparison from one vehicles speed to another or one product vs another is not a oxymoron.

Please accept this in the spirit it is intended.

However, I believe it is fair to ask what are the differences between DP's coating and the new black labels coating? I for one wouldn't begin the know which one is better

I'd like to be educated.
 
tkendrick said:
Nick,

You may want to look-up the definition of oxymoron.

One famous oxymoron is the phrase "the same difference." This phrase qualifies as an oxymoron because the words "same" and "difference" have completely opposite meanings. Therefore, bringing them together into one phrase produces a verbally puzzling, yet engaging, effect.

Other examples:

clearly confused
deafening silence
pretty ugly
original copy

You get the idea.

So, a comparison from one vehicles speed to another or one product vs another is not a oxymoron.

Please accept this in the spirit it is intended.

However, I believe it is fair to ask what are the differences between DP's coating and the new black labels coating? I for one wouldn't begin the know which one is better

I'd like to be educated.
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I can't fault someone for teaching me something I thought I already knew. :dblthumb2:

Each respective Black Label Coating is easier to apply, lasts longer, and creates more of a glassy finish compared to the DP coatings.
 
FUNX725 said:
From the "Book of Capitalism":

PBMG beget: New Products.
New Products beget: New Detailing Classifications.
New Detailing Classifications beget: New Markets.
New Markets beget: New Sales.
New Sales beget: New Profits...

:)

Bob
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What are you confused about?

Prosumer is a term that has been around for a while and defines a new segment of products (in various industries) that between 'consumer' products (like Armor All, the off-the-shelf meguiars stuff; or point and shoot cameras in the camera world, or so on and so forth), but not quite to the level of 'professional' products (like a $5,000 DSLR, or like the high end Menzerna products). Thus we have 'prosumer' products like a lot of the DP products.

In my opinion (unless I'm wrong), this new stuff seems to fit more the pro/serious enthusiast market, as opposed to the 'middle ground' like the DP series of products. (Which are priced above the consumer grade products but below the high end pro products).

Then you can go a step above that to 'botique' products. In the Camera world that might be a $50,000 Hasselblad. Here it might be a $4,000 wax!
 
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FUNX725 said:
From the "Book of Capitalism":

PBMG beget: New Products.
New Products beget: New Detailing Classifications.
New Detailing Classifications beget: New Markets.
New Markets beget: New Sales.
New Sales beget: New Profits...

:)

Bob
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Talk about marketing. I bought the
Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Coating Elite Kit

so that is the Pinnacle (the top, can't go higher), Black Label (special or limited) Diamond Coating (hardest that you can get) Elite (the best). Wow what could possibly top all of that? Great marketing labels.
 
Geez guys. A little harsh on Nick. I have a little dp coating left in my first and a new bottle waiting and im not going to throw either away despite probably ordering the new coating. They are different products, different price points. Its like getting upset because Walmart sells more than 1 house brand of macaroni and cheese.

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Romans5.8 said:
What are you confused about?

Why it's your particular use of detailers' classification/terminology...What else!
How could've that been misconstrued?
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Romans5.8 said:
Prosumer is a term that has been around for a while and defines a new segment of products (in various industries) that between 'consumer' products (like Armor All, the off-the-shelf meguiars stuff; or point and shoot cameras in the camera world, or so on and so forth), but not quite to the level of 'professional' products (like a $5,000 DSLR, or like the high end Menzerna products). Thus we have 'prosumer' products like a lot of the DP products.

In my opinion (unless I'm wrong), this new stuff seems to fit more the pro/serious enthusiast market, as opposed to the 'middle ground' like the DP series of products. (Which are priced above the consumer grade products but below the high end pro products).

Then you can go a step above that to 'botique' products. In the Camera world that might be a $50,000 Hasselblad. Here it might be a $4,000 wax!

All of the above may actually exist on other forums you frequent...
and even in your: "products' World".
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I'll commend you only on: A Nice try!

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Bob
 
First shot across the bow, Black Label paint coating is glossier than DPPC is, a comparison is coming our way.....soon!

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StangFan25 said:
I dont recall if it was Nick or Meghan that stated the new Black Label paint coating is "better" than DP Paint Coating but with a statement like that, aren't you basically burying DP Paint Coating and killing its potential sale?

I mean, I have almost a full bottle of DP left, and reading these comments, id rather unload my DP on someone else and get the Black Label. I'm sure others would feel the same and want the "best".

I understand marketing and wanting to sell a new product, but doing so at the cost of another products sales? The phrase "cutting of your nose to spite your face" comes to mind.
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Standby for my review of Black Label coating. I used it on my car this past weekend and I'm going to compare it to my wife's car which got the DP coating around the end of July. I need a few days to finalize what pics I'm going to use, but I think it might help answer this question.


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VP Mark said:
Geez guys. A little harsh on Nick. I have a little dp coating left in my first and a new bottle waiting and im not going to throw either away despite probably ordering the new coating. They are different products, different price points. Its like getting upset because Walmart sells more than 1 house brand of macaroni and cheese.

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Who's upset or being harsh on Nick? :confused:
 
ekennett said:
Standby for my review of Black Label coating. I used it on my car this past weekend and I'm going to compare it to my wife's car which got the DP coating around the end of July. I need a few days to finalize what pics I'm going to use, but I think it might help answer this question.


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Awesome! Myself, and I'm sure many others look forward to your comparison!
 
I'm interested in trying these products on my car, but will stick to the DP Coatings for the rare customer I get, and all my friends and family. That DP stuff rocks for the price.

IMO those saying the DP paint coating maybe "yesterday's news", are off a little. Those products are cheap and they rock! And so far they've impressed me with each use. Don't sell it short! The DP line is geared towards pros and consumers like me who want quality at a good price, this Pinnacle stuff is itching for that high level of car care and those with rides I couldn't imagine being lucky to own.

Congrats AG looks awesome, guys who got early treats on Halloween post those reviews.
 
So this coating says it is resistant to scratches/etc. Would this be a good choice for a Jeep that is driven off-road to protect against light brush? Obviously I don't expect it to work if I drag a tree branch along the paint or something. How would this compare to opti-coat or cquartz as far as scratch resistance? Right now I just actively avoid brush when at all possible, but it would be nice to not have to be quite as careful. I've thought about using the other products many times but always been nervous about putting a permanent coating on. This seems extremely easy to work with though.
 
flyinion said:
So this coating says it is resistant to scratches/etc. Would this be a good choice for a Jeep that is driven off-road to protect against light brush? Obviously I don't expect it to work if I drag a tree branch along the paint or something. How would this compare to opti-coat or cquartz as far as scratch resistance? Right now I just actively avoid brush when at all possible, but it would be nice to not have to be quite as careful. I've thought about using the other products many times but always been nervous about putting a permanent coating on. This seems extremely easy to work with though.
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It says the coating is more resistant to scratches and marring, compared to your clear coat. Big difference. :dblthumb2:

I would still actively avoid scratching the vehicle, regardless of the wax, sealant, or coating that you choose.
 
flyinion said:
So this coating says it is resistant to scratches/etc. Would this be a good choice for a Jeep that is driven off-road to protect against light brush? Obviously I don't expect it to work if I drag a tree branch along the paint or something. How would this compare to opti-coat or cquartz as far as scratch resistance? Right now I just actively avoid brush when at all possible, but it would be nice to not have to be quite as careful. I've thought about using the other products many times but always been nervous about putting a permanent coating on. This seems extremely easy to work with though.
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I think you may have gotten that term a bit mixed up. What they mean by the scratch resistance is that things like marring or very light swirling might sometimes have less of a chance to occur on the coating vs the bare paint. No coating out there will protect your car from light brush. Its only meant to make super soft paints on cars a little better to work with on an up keeping stand point.:xyxthumbs:
 
Thanks, makes sense. I'd originally been considering opti-coat since it sounded like it was a good size layer added to the paint. The thought process being if I had to buff something out, more chance that I'm buffing off opti-coat instead of precious layers of clearcoat. I guess I was just wondering if this could be used in a similar fashion or if the layer is not thick enough for something like that. It sounds like it would not be the same kind of thing. It sounds really promising for my wife's black Altima though since Nissan seems to have soft paint.
 
Hmm, more new products to try. So much for this week's paycheck... :D
 
One question. Why should i get the Pinnacle Black Label Cleansing Polish vs the DP coating prep polish? I just wanna know what the difference is, since the price point/product amound is quite different. If i was to get this tho id be using it on different coatings.
 
Any opinions on whether this coating will reduce road rash on soft paints?
 
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