MF towel cost usage

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Hi Guys! Do you guys count how many cars can a MF towel for QD, waffle weave towel be used before you can say its cost effective? Thanks!
 
Not sure what the question is?

Using a proper towel on your paint will save tremendous amounts of time spent polishing out micro-marring left by inferior towels.
 
So basically you wanna know how many times you have to use a towel to break even on cost?
 
A MF towel is very cost effective, because it can likely be reused thousands of times before it needs to be replaced. You probably would want to wash it after each use.
 
Seriously.... that isn't translating so well. :dunno: Using what kind of towel, with what, a QD? As in a $9.99 600gsm towel perhaps?

Just depends on how easily your paint develops swirls. Some you can use QD with Costco towels, others you DO need a 460, 600, 700 gsm towel. No real correlation however as that is apples to oranges.

As for waffle weaves. Are you talking about the multi-thick-foam-core for drying or thinner waffle weaves for rinseless washing? Me, I pretty much stopped any type of towel drying, (other than the final stuff that blowing dry doesn't get). Yet I have several gold plush foam-core towels that I just don't so much use. :dunno:

Cost factor though just depends on what you want to spend, and what a scratch and swirl free finish is worth to you.

My neighbor washes his BMW M5 with an old WASH RAG and a dirty bucket. He'll hide from me almost if he thinks I'm going to try and talk him into letting me buff it! :eek: To HIM, there is NO PRICE that would make it affordable. Same thing with his brand new Nissan Leaf.

But his street bikes, and his dirt bikes, and his shop in the basement where you can eat off the floor. Weeeeeeeeeelllllllllll that is a different story! :laughing:
 
I don't think there is a way to calculate what you are asking. I have MF towels that I have washed dozens and dozens of times before delegating them to interior and grunge duty.

Some towels last longer than others. It also depends on what you are using them for, how many you have(which changes how often each towel gets used), and how well you take care of them.

I think the more useful question would be:

Do you find higher end microfiber towels useful for your business, and if so, why? What type of towels do you use?
 
cardaddy said:
My neighbor washes his BMW M5 with an old WASH RAG and a dirty bucket. He'll hide from me almost if he thinks I'm going to try and talk him into letting me buff it! :eek: To HIM, there is NO PRICE that would make it affordable. Same thing with his brand new Nissan Leaf.
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That's funny he'll hide from you cardaddy.. Some folks will step over a dollar to pick up dime....:D
 
Just buy a lot of different towels for many applications. U can figure out what towels are nice and not so nice. Then use the better ones for the exterior upper paint. keep moving down the ladder for parts that are dirtier and so on.
 
Sorry guys my question wasn't clear enough. This simplify it my question.

goldendodo19 said:
So basically you wanna know how many times you have to use a towel to break even on cost?
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Thanks goldendodo!

Cardaddy, i am currently using a 600 gsm mf towel for QD from korea. And a plain waffle weave from korea too. On a regular day, we do roughly around 15 maintenance washes and 30 cars on weekends. I just want to put an equivalent price per car per towel if thats even possible, lol. Anyway any feedback will do, thanks!

Glad to see you made it through Haiyan safely forum friend
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God is good bro.:xyxthumbs:
 
Kitoy22 said:
Cardaddy, i am currently using a 600 gsm mf towel for QD from korea. And a plain waffle weave from korea too. On a regular day, we do roughly around 15 maintenance washes and 30 cars on weekends. I just want to put an equivalent price per car per towel if thats even possible, lol. Anyway any feedback will do, thanks!



God is good bro.
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Yeah... I dunno' if you're going to be able to break that cost per car/towel down at all. Best case is to amortize it would be take your cost per towel then keep track of how many uses, how many washes, and what the cost per wash is (per towel).

You could then start breaking it down to how many uses you get for QD before you have to downgrade your towel to lesser duties. Say removing polish next. Then yet another downgrade to removing compound. Then downgrade again to interior work. The finally to sills, jambs, and engine bays.

Basically you'll be able to get quite a bit of use from each towel during it's working cycle lifetime. My guess is it's pennies per use when you are dong the volume you guys are. For me, it'd be much MUCH higher as I just do specialty work. ;)


And yes, you guys making it through the hand of God like you just did, that is a miracle in itself. May be hard to hold on to one's faith when you look around and see the devastation that has been suffered in your country. Thank God we don't have those types of storms here, but we do get tornados and had several a couple of years ago that destroyed neighborhoods all around us. God was good that day to us as well.

Our prayers are with you, and your recovery.:props:
 
cardaddy said:
Seriously.... that isn't translating so well. :dunno: Using what kind of towel, with what, a QD? As in a $9.99 600gsm towel perhaps?

Just depends on how easily your paint develops swirls. Some you can use QD with Costco towels, others you DO need a 460, 600, 700 gsm towel. No real correlation however as that is apples to oranges.

As for waffle weaves. Are you talking about the multi-thick-foam-core for drying or thinner waffle weaves for rinseless washing? Me, I pretty much stopped any type of towel drying, (other than the final stuff that blowing dry doesn't get). Yet I have several gold plush foam-core towels that I just don't so much use. :dunno:

Cost factor though just depends on what you want to spend, and what a scratch and swirl free finish is worth to you.

My neighbor washes his BMW M5 with an old WASH RAG and a dirty bucket. He'll hide from me almost if he thinks I'm going to try and talk him into letting me buff it! :eek: To HIM, there is NO PRICE that would make it affordable. Same thing with his brand new Nissan Leaf.

But his street bikes, and his dirt bikes, and his shop in the basement where you can eat off the floor. Weeeeeeeeeelllllllllll that is a different story! :laughing:
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ROFL. :D

Sounds like mine.....

Both of their cars never see washing as far as I know... Maybe once through an automated.....

The wives car (Some kinda GM light green) is hazed, dirt and swirled out, his truck (Black) well you get the idea....

The funny thing is they know what I do and they have to look at my truck everyday when they go to their cars. :D

My Jeep is in the Garage, truck sits out...

I neglected my white truck for 8 months once and it looked better than either one of those do now....
 
Personally I like the Yellow Cobra Towels. :)

Use the cheap Autozone stuff for the dirty work and interiors etc...
 
cardaddy said:
You could then start breaking it down to how many uses you get for QD before you have to downgrade your towel to lesser duties. Say removing polish next. Then yet another downgrade to removing compound. Then downgrade again to interior work. The finally to sills, jambs, and engine bays.

Basically you'll be able to get quite a bit of use from each towel during it's working cycle lifetime. My guess is it's pennies per use when you are dong the volume you guys are. For me, it'd be much MUCH higher as I just do specialty work.
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Thank you very much! this great help, in this way i'll be maximizing use of the towels to the last cent.

Our prayers are with you, and your recovery.
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This is greatly appreciated. Thanks cardaddy!
 
stilltipping3 said:
Just buy a lot of different towels for many applications. U can figure out what towels are nice and not so nice. Then use the better ones for the exterior upper paint. keep moving down the ladder for parts that are dirtier and so on.
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:dblthumb2:CHURCH! Oh yeah!!!!! :dblthumb2:

jankerson said:
ROFL. :D

Sounds like mine.....

Both of their cars never see washing as far as I know... Maybe once through an automated.....

The wives car (Some kinda GM light green) is hazed, dirt and swirled out, his truck (Black) well you get the idea....

The funny thing is they know what I do and they have to look at my truck everyday when they go to their cars. :D

My Jeep is in the Garage, truck sits out...

I neglected my white truck for 8 months once and it looked better than either one of those do now....
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Doesn't that just infuriate you to no freaking end?!?!?!?!?!?!!!! Arrrggggghhhh!!!!!!

I went over there one day back in April-ish when I saw him scrubbing at his BMW with NO FREAKING SOAP and took a spray bottle of ONR to show him what he could do with it.

I even gave the guy a little spray bottle of the cheapest stuff I have, DG951 back in the spring. Still no luck!

Now that the new "Leaf" has shown up I'm hoping I could convince him to coat it. Apparently it's all the rage at Delta. He says all the guys out there are all about it, and the company is getting/giving great incentives on it. Breaks down to being almost FREE for 2 years. :dunno:

Kitoy22 said:
Thank you very much! this great help, in this way i'll be maximizing use of the towels to the last cent.
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Hey.... just glad I could help. :props:

Kitoy22 said:
This is greatly appreciated. Thanks cardaddy!
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I CAN'T IMAGINE the horrific nature of what has happened all around your nation. Faith is such a fragile thing, and we are constantly tested in ways that seem as unfair as the belief in faith itself. I know all around you the ocean is in the land, and the land is in the ocean. Trees are removed and thrown about, just as we are in our lifetime. Yet without faith we are nothing, and WITH FAITH we will have the strength to move mountains!:dblthumb2:

Matthew 12:21

"if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea', and it will be done"?

With the words of this passage, therefore, our Lord cuts right to the quick on the issue of what it means to truly believe. The same sentiment is found at Luke 17:6, Matthew 17:20, and 21:20-21, and although the passage in Luke speaks of a fig tree being uprooted and planted in the sea, there and in the Matthew 17 passage Jesus tells us that we will receive these dramatic answers to prayer if only we have the tiniest amount of faith (as small as a grain of mustard seed). Further, in the Matthew 17 passage our Lord is explaining why the disciples were unable to cast out the demon which He did cast out after His descent from the mount of transfiguration - "because of your little faith".

"Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit" says the Lord of Hosts. What are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel (i.e., a type of Christ) you will turn into a plain (i.e., for the construction of the temple). And He will bring forth the Corner Stone to the shouts of "grace, grace be upon it!"
Zechariah 4:6-7

As this passage in Zechariah shows, moving mountains - whether literal or metaphorical - can only be accomplished by the Spirit of God in the will of God. In Matthew 21:22, in the context of the verse you ask about, Jesus adds, "If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer". Therefore the challenge of uprooting the fig tree and moving the mountain represents where we as believers in Him who promises us this should be - that is, at the point in our spiritual lives where we truly do possess supreme confidence of faith, a state that is only achieved through a) a mature knowledge of what God's will is (Phil.1:9-10), and b) a mature relationship with Him (achieved only through spiritual growth based on said knowledge; cf. Heb.5:14). Our Lord had both of these to a perfect degree, developed over a life-time of perfectly trusting God and resolutely and consistently growing in grace through diligent spiritual growth (Lk.2:40; 2:52). For this reason, His ability to "move mountains" through prayers of faith cannot be compared to the "little faith" often demonstrated by the disciples (cf. Matt.17:19ff), and all too often by us as well. But the closer we get to Him, through faith, the more our faith strengthens and the more effective our prayers become. If we cannot move mountains now, everything our Lord says to us indicates that we can develop our faith to such a degree, and that even "a mustard seed" worth of faith is enough to do the most amazing things.
 
cardaddy said:
Doesn't that just infuriate you to no freaking end?!?!?!?!?!?!!!! Arrrggggghhhh!!!!!!

I went over there one day back in April-ish when I saw him scrubbing at his BMW with NO FREAKING SOAP and took a spray bottle of ONR to show him what he could do with it.

I even gave the guy a little spray bottle of the cheapest stuff I have, DG951 back in the spring. Still no luck!

Now that the new "Leaf" has shown up I'm hoping I could convince him to coat it. Apparently it's all the rage at Delta. He says all the guys out there are all about it, and the company is getting/giving great incentives on it. Breaks down to being almost FREE for 2 years. :dunno:



Hey.... just glad I could help. :props:
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Yeah it does...

I walked over today and took a good look at the car..... Just to see....

It's really bad, almost no shine at all from an angle.... And none looking down at the paint.
 
To be it doesn't matter. There is no other towel out there that you wanna use on your paint than a mf one. Maybe a chamois.

The question should be how long do they last and what did you pay for them.
 
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