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60 watt and 40 watt incandescent bulbs can no longer be manufactured as of yesterday.

It's the end of the light bulb as we know it | Appliances - CNET Reviews

Anyone found any 60W or 40W reasonably priced LED bulbs by a reputable maker? The cheap no-name ones I've tried don't last much longer than incandescents

edit: checking into this further, I guess there are some loopholes:
The incandescent light bulb isn't dead | The Verge

and I also found that home depot has stockpiled 60W and 40W and expects at least a 6 month supply.
 
just heard about this on the petros and money show

sad news, bc i hate fluorescent lighting :(
 
Sounds like we are being forced to purchase LED bulbs for high prices


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In the CNET article above, you will find you are being forced to buy a more efficient bulb (incandescent, halogen, CFL, or LED) at a slightly higher or significantly higher price but in the end you will actually save you money as the life of the new bulbs are significantly greater than the current bulbs.

Since the article seems to apply to 40 and 60 watt bulbs, I wonder if the new law includes 100 watt bulbs ?
 
My bad, according to the above CNET article the 100 watt bulbs were required to be more effecient and the new law now requires 60 an 40 watt bulbs to be more efficient.
 
Yeah, the company that made the original light bulbs was forced to leave the country due to this and let's be honest here, how many "low income" people are going to spend all that money on "energy saving" bulbs that are better for the environment, they want cheap and could care less.....wait, just thought of something, subsidies...yeah, that's it, make the evil, rich company owners pay for em. I wonder if they'll be disposed of properly too, what does that mean....exactly!

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Yeah, the company that made the original light bulbs was forced to leave the country due to this and let's be honest here, how many "low income" people are going to spend all that money on "energy saving" bulbs that are better for the environment, they want cheap and could care less.....wait, just thought of something, subsidies...yeah, that's it, make the evil, rich company owners pay for em. I wonder if they'll be disposed of properly too, what does that mean....exactly!

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If a corporation doesn't pay someone a livable wage who is really receiving the subsidy. It starts with a C.
 
Once I saw a guy collect money & eat a light bulb at a bar. My first though is that this may put him outta business.
 
If a corporation doesn't pay someone a livable wage who is really receiving the subsidy. It starts with a C.

One the Nations biggest issues that will never change....

Way too much pure greed for that to ever happen....

And the gap keeps getting larger...
 
I use CFL's. LED's are the way of the future, but CFL's aren't that expensive anymore, last a really long time and DO save energy. Yes, there will always be someone who complains that one or two went out early, but use a decent CFL and it should last for years and years. I've replaced 2 in the last 3 years in my home.

That said, never a fan of the government deciding for us what's best for us. Even though I think it's a no-brainer solution, there are still uses for incandescents. For example, I still use them in my ceiling fan in the living room. The type of fixture that's there makes the bulbs visible, and it would look ugly with CFL's in there. There are also fixtures where CFL's won't fit.

There already are subsidies in a number of states for CFL. In Missouri, one of the major power companies gets a tax credit for providing a subsidy (so, basically, it's a government subsidy) so in October, you fill out a little form and can get CFL 60 watt equivalent bulbs for $1 each. Power company makes up the difference and then the state turns around and re-makes up the difference to them! But that way, they don't say it's a government subsidy. AND the power company gets to look like a hero.
 
If a corporation doesn't pay someone a livable wage who is really receiving the subsidy. It starts with a C.

Ok, let me ask you this, just asking, what are you willing to pay for that Big Mac combo? The reason I ask is because $15.00 an hour for a fast food job is crazy and no, I'm not dissing them, worked there back in high school and its hard work but at the end of the day its an entry level job and nothing more, unless its management. You learn skills needed to go to the next level IMO.

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Ok, let me ask you this, just asking, what are you willing to pay for that Big Mac combo? The reason I ask is because $15.00 an hour for a fast food job is crazy and no, I'm not dissing them, worked there back in high school and its hard work but at the end of the day its an entry level job and nothing more, unless its management. You learn skills needed to go to the next level IMO.

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I doubt anyone with any since would debate that...

But the concept of a fair days wage for a days work has been lost along time ago...

The issue that I have with the whole thing is that Big Business and some of the smaller Companies are running on PT help working FT hours...

And that's at PT wages with no benefits....

Also when a Company or Corp has people working for them that are on Welfare and or are collecting food stamps then there is a
HUGE FREAKING ISSUE THERE.....

2 of the Largest Corps in the Nation have exactly that issue....

So in effect the taxpayers are subsidizing their wages and give those Large Corps a handout... In plain terms the Government is paying a large percentage of their wages..... And were do you think that extra money goes that they aren't spending.....????????

I will give you one guess.....
 
We'll all doomed.Im the MAN

I wasn't joking....

The information is well documented and available if one really wants to look...

Start digging and things are a lot worse than you might think...

The really bad thing is they are getting away with it because the Government is letting them.... And has been for along time now....

And it's not going to get any better......

Unless something major happens....
 
Ok, let me ask you this, just asking, what are you willing to pay for that Big Mac combo? The reason I ask is because $15.00 an hour for a fast food job is crazy and no, I'm not dissing them, worked there back in high school and its hard work but at the end of the day its an entry level job and nothing more, unless its management. You learn skills needed to go to the next level IMO.

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Aside from lightbulbs, IMO the mimimum wage should be raised. To what? I'm not exactly sure. But NY's current (and already increased) rate of $8 is hardly sufficient. Perhaps $15 is a bit high in the aggregate, but then again, on an individual basis $15 an hour is petty cash. Are there other ways to spark the economy and lead to a better overall societal well-being? Absolutely! But I think raising the min wage shouldn't be negated.

I'm not about to get into an economics debate. In fact, I think more humanistically and holistically. (after all at the end of the day we all are just humans that live and die!) Economics, like biology, is a science. But biology has limits. That is where philosophy and/or religion steps in. Similarly, people like to think in terms of money, taxes, economics, progress and so on and so often forget the very real and human aspect of things...:rant:

However, here on Long Island the poverty level is a little over $20,000. I was probably making about that ($10 an hour) when I was detailing jets part-time this summer and let me tell you I was having a hard time just paying for gas and the occassional dinner, along with other petty expenses. Forget tuition, textbooks, unexpected expenses, children, utilities, taxes, insurance, medical bills, groceries, rent/mortgage payments partying etc etc... I don't know how some people do it.... and the truth is, many don't...they foreclose, go homeless, stay with family or friends to make do etc etc...and many people just don't care/pay any attention or (perhaps worse) are in denial, caring only about themselves and how cheap they can get their meal/sweater/car (you get the picture) for.

I absolutely agree with the fact that a fast food job should be considered entry-level. Yes, people (esp with families) have a responsibility to make ends meet and get a new (or second) job if the current one isn't cutting it. But that doesn't mean we should give those at the bottom the short end of the stick, which minimum wage IMO currently is.

Aside from which, sometimes moving up isn't as easy as it is purported to be. Take my mother as the paramount example: she has a Bachelors degree in human development from UVM, A+ student, traveled cross country in human resources, was a training manager, and then had to stay home b/c I (and subsequently, my sister) were premies. She then got off her butt, got an R/N degree, and since she was "old" (under 50 mind you) (and had an associate's RN not bachelors b/c thats all she and my father could afford after raising two kids and a household) she was jobless for 2 years until her FRIEND GAVE her a job. We were okay, because my father does reasonably well (very far above poverty line and perhaps a salary many would aspire to but still very tough to live on for Long Island)
...So everything is relative, and I'm not here to attack anyone, their view or get into an argument. In fact, This is to be my first and last comment. I just mean to (maybe) enlighten, and to speak from personal, empirical experience. We can throw out numbers, data, or whatever else. We can complain about "burdens" on the system and individuals b/c of minimum wage or whatever...but we must guage what the really important issues are... Just my $0.02 :)
 
In the CNET article above, you will find you are being forced to buy a more efficient bulb (incandescent, halogen, CFL, or LED) at a slightly higher or significantly higher price but in the end you will actually save you money as the life of the new bulbs are significantly greater than the current bulbs.

Since the article seems to apply to 40 and 60 watt bulbs, I wonder if the new law includes 100 watt bulbs ?


75 and 100 watt bulbs were on the hit list a year or two ago, I think 2011. When I went to the Depot last week their were none and no shelf space for them so I looked it up and they were the first target.
 
Ok, let me ask you this, just asking, what are you willing to pay for that Big Mac combo? The reason I ask is because $15.00 an hour for a fast food job is crazy and no, I'm not dissing them, worked there back in high school and its hard work but at the end of the day its an entry level job and nothing more, unless its management. You learn skills needed to go to the next level IMO.

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BTW Klasse Act: 1) I respect you and have seen you posting around the forums a lot. You have a lot of insight and car detailing expertise.
2) The below comment was not meant to be an attack on you, your views or anything of that nature at all. I merely used your mention of minimum wage as a springboard for my comment. It may look very long and intimidating but it's more philosophical commentary than argument, IMO. Furthermore, I suspect we probably share some views, because as I mentioned, I think fast food jobs and the like are definitely entry level and people need to have ambition and drive not be leeches off the system. But where I draw the line is that we (like Jesus taught) should be thinking of others' well being necessarily before ours. (Not to say we'll become self-depriving or cut out property or anything radical though). I think raising the min wage falls into that category, though. Just wanted to clarify:xyxthumbs:

Aside from lightbulbs, IMO the mimimum wage should be raised. To what? I'm not exactly sure. But NY's current (and already increased) rate of $8 is hardly sufficient. Perhaps $15 is a bit high in the aggregate, but then again, on an individual basis $15 an hour is petty cash. Are there other ways to spark the economy and lead to a better overall societal well-being? Absolutely! But I think raising the min wage shouldn't be negated.

I'm not about to get into an economics debate. In fact, I think more humanistically and holistically. (after all at the end of the day we all are just humans that live and die!) Economics, like biology, is a science. But biology has limits. That is where philosophy and/or religion steps in. Similarly, people like to think in terms of money, taxes, economics, progress and so on and so often forget the very real and human aspect of things...:rant:

However, here on Long Island the poverty level is a little over $20,000. I was probably making about that ($10 an hour) when I was detailing jets part-time this summer and let me tell you I was having a hard time just paying for gas and the occassional dinner, along with other petty expenses. Forget tuition, textbooks, unexpected expenses, children, utilities, taxes, insurance, medical bills, groceries, rent/mortgage payments partying etc etc... I don't know how some people do it.... and the truth is, many don't...they foreclose, go homeless, stay with family or friends to make do etc etc...and many people just don't care/pay any attention or (perhaps worse) are in denial, caring only about themselves and how cheap they can get their meal/sweater/car (you get the picture) for.

I absolutely agree with the fact that a fast food job should be considered entry-level. Yes, people (esp with families) have a responsibility to make ends meet and get a new (or second) job if the current one isn't cutting it. But that doesn't mean we should give those at the bottom the short end of the stick, which minimum wage IMO currently is.

Aside from which, sometimes moving up isn't as easy as it is purported to be. Take my mother as the paramount example: she has a Bachelors degree in human development from UVM, A+ student, traveled cross country in human resources, was a training manager, and then had to stay home b/c I (and subsequently, my sister) were premies. She then got off her butt, got an R/N degree, and since she was "old" (under 50 mind you) (and had an associate's RN not bachelors b/c thats all she and my father could afford after raising two kids and a household) she was jobless for 2 years until her FRIEND GAVE her a job. We were okay, because my father does reasonably well (very far above poverty line and perhaps a salary many would aspire to but still very tough to live on for Long Island)
...So everything is relative, and I'm not here to attack anyone, their view or get into an argument. In fact, This is to be my first and last comment. I just mean to (maybe) enlighten, and to speak from personal, empirical experience. We can throw out numbers, data, or whatever else. We can complain about "burdens" on the system and individuals b/c of minimum wage or whatever...but we must guage what the really important issues are... Just my $0.02 :)
 
As soon as I heard about a possible ban on incandescent bulbs about five years ago I bought quite a few cases of 60, 75, 100, and 200 watt GE bulbs. About four gross all together. I'll probably put them on E-bay when folks start getting desperate.

But in my house I have switched to CFL bulbs. And I was able to find them cheap. Really cheap.
I found a little local mom and pop market that had 60 and 100 watt equivalent bulbs at four for a dollar. So I bought all I would ever need. And just yesterday I found 150 watt equivalent bulbs for 50 cents each. Bought the entire case. 48 bulbs.

And after switching all my bulbs over to CFL's a couple of years ago my monthly electric bill dropped from $125.00 to $60.00
That is during the spring or fall when no AC and no electric heaters are on. Summer and winter is higher.
 
I wasn't joking....

The information is well documented and available if one really wants to look...

Start digging and things are a lot worse than you might think...

The really bad thing is they are getting away with it because the Government is letting them.... And has been for along time now....

And it's not going to get any better......

Unless something major happens....
I'm not going to say what I would like to it would just start a shi$ storm, you are correct!Im the MAN
 
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