E-Zyme Natura or Celeste Dettaglio?

pcw25 said:
What's BI?
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Black Ice and it's a Black Wax, not for light colored vehicles especially white.

This is Blackfire Black Ice on My GC.



This is WG Fuzion on it.



This is Pinnacle Souveran


 
Natura will compete with the best out there if the finish is properly prepared and if you apply it correctly. Awesome shine and reflections. Really best applied with your bare hands one panel at a time.
 
I see that Todd Cooperider of Esoteric Auto Detail uses CG E-Zyme on his show car, restoration details where protection is not an factor and he wants the best looking wax (source: some of his Ask-a-Pro Blog write ups. They could have been old and his tastes may have changed.)

I can comment on Zymöl Carbon and Glasur: they're great. I mean really amazing. Now, I may have drank the kool-aid because it was my first premium wax (Carbon) when I was 16. Or maybe 17. You know, when spending $50 on a wax was a really big deal. I got Glasur when I got my 911 and it produced some of the best looks that even the dealership asked what I was using and who the detailer was (me :buffing:)

Other show car waxes I see mentioned in the same breath are the Swissvax offerings, BlackFire BlackICE, the Dodo Juice offerings (including their Independent Wax Label waxes), Bouncer's Capture the Rapture, Auto Finesse offerings, and Pinnacle Souveran (if 2+ weeks durability is acceptable). Again, most of these recommendations are from what I've read in various threads and from Dr. Oldz epic wax thread. I have not tried any of these waxes so I can offer no opinion.
 
Thanks everyone. Will let you know what I end up picking in this thread!
 
Somax polymer net shield would be my choice for white paint. There is just no need for wax oils for this color, as it would be a waste. Beading will be tight, and great durability.
 
For white paint how about Pinnacle Sig Series II?? It's great on light colors, reasonably priced, and super easy to use.
 
supercharged said:
Somax polymer net shield would be my choice for white paint. There is just no need for wax oils for this color, as it would be a waste. Beading will be tight, and great durability.
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A waste of what? Wax? That's why we buy it - to put on paint. I can't see using wax on white paint as a waste. Wax may not last the longest, bead the best, or always be the easiest to use - but I still think it looks the best.
 
supercharged said:
Somax polymer net shield
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From Sonax Polymer Net Shield's product description:
"Sonax Polymer Net Shield is formulated using an organic and inorganic network of hybrid polymers".

I'll call this phenomenon: Hybrid Inorganic Organic Polymer Systems: HIOPS...{No, not IHOP. :D}
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-It has been said that, in order to modify an organic material, effectively, when using an inorganic material as the modifier:
That the inorganic material must be finely, and homogeneously dispersed within the organic material...
a method of blending...resulting in a covalent bonding, in other words.

-To effectuate such a blending/bonding, though, there is the necessity of using a sol-gel reagent.
These two materials will then become molecularscopically homogeneous throughout the 'newly-formed' material.
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supercharged said:
There is just no need for wax oils for this color,
as it would be a waste.
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I question if there are/are not any remnants of the required sol-gel's compound/composition used
in order to manufacture this particular HIOPS Sonax aerosol product...that's: left behind to be inside...
that may, indeed, be "oily in a waxy sort of way", or not.

:)

Bob
 
To the OP, I'd like to weigh in if you haven't made your final decision yet. I have E-Zyme and love it. It's easy to work with, it smells fantastic, and it produces a nice warm glow on the paint. It's also pretty expensive, and if cost isn't a major factor here then I'd say go for it. But after my experience with using many high quality waxes, I really feel that no wax should cost more than $100.
I was able to buy a nearly full pot of Zymol Glasur off someone for $70. It provides everything you'd be looking for in a wax. It's sheeting ability alone is reason enough to use it. Glasur is so good, that if I didn't already have E-Zyme, I wouldn't feel any need to buy it...or any other super expensive wax for that matter.
 
Okay guys

So now after window shopping on the internet for a wax, I have found the 3 that I THINK suit me best.

Here they are:

Pinnacle Souveran
Dodo Juice Supernatural
Victoria Concours Red Wax

Each of these I heard are superb, all for different reasons: Pinnacle for its wet look, Dodo Juice for its clarity, and Vic's for its gloss.

So, if anyone has had experience with any of these waxes, please, give me your opinion on each! I'm all ears!

Thank You!
 
DoDo Supernatural and Souveran, I have them both. They are both good choices, for a light vehicle I'd still say go with DoDo Lightfantastic, I have that too and didn't notice that much of a difference over SuperN. Not enough to justify the higher price and less product.
 
custmsprty said:
DoDo Supernatural and Souveran, I have them both. They are both good choices, for a light vehicle I'd still say go with DoDo Lightfantastic, I have that too and didn't notice that much of a difference over SuperN. Not enough to justify the higher price and less product.
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I agree.

However I thought about other people's cars that I do (on weekends) and now have changed my mind to looking for an all around product. But it still has to look good on the Alpine White!
;)
 
pcw25 said:
I agree.

However I thought about other people's cars that I do (on weekends) and now have changed my mind to looking for an all around product. But it still has to look good on the Alpine White!
;)
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I have used Light Fantastic and Supernatural on my Black GC with excellent results. The LF is a great all around wax.
 
custmsprty said:
I have used Light Fantastic and Supernatural on my Black GC with excellent results. The LF is a great all around wax.
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Thanks! Something to consider to put on my shelf!
 
Been watching some videos on wax testing. The Zymol Glasur sheets water like nobody's business from what I've seen. On the particular video I saw, the black trunk lid test panel showed almost no difference in the looks of the 4 waxes tested, but the aquaphobic properties were significantly different.

That being said it was a video not real life, so looks might be misleading.
 
aim4squirrels said:
Been watching some videos on wax testing. The Zymol Glasur sheets water like nobody's business from what I've seen. On the particular video I saw the black trunk lid showed almost no difference in the looks of the 4 waxes tested, but the aquaphobic properties were significantly different.

That being said it was a video not real life, so looks might be misleading.
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That's good to know that Glasur sheets like mad. It's more for the final finish that I'm looking for. There are just so many products it's overwhelming.
 
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