Will washing with Dawn "reactivate" Opti Coat

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The beading on my car with opti coat is quite poor, sometimes it looks like nothing is there at all. The water just runs off the sides like a waterfall. I was reading online that washing with Dawn could help. Anybody try that? I don't want to strip it if in fact it is still there.
 
I think you should IronX it and clay it. Washing it with Dawn won't hurt - but likely won't help either, opposed to another quality soap.
 
from my understanding from you post Calibmw23. I am assuming when you wash your car the water just runs off like a waterfall? As in sheeting?

Isn't that the purpose of Opti Coating your car? So nothing sticks to it (for the most part) I "personally" don't really care much for the beading part of evaluating one's car paint. I like to just see the water run off like you said a waterfall, or sheet off.

That is why instead of spraying a car with water and watching the beads just sit there, especially when talking to a potential customer. I just get cup of water and pour it on the paint and show them how the car pretty much dries itself on my own car. I suggested this back when I came on here, but people didn't like it very much so I just left it at that. I still do this method, instead of beading and letting the water sit on my paint, I prefer to sheet the water and getting everything and anything off my paint, but to each there own. Plus when you pour a cup of water you can show them how the car's paint will look once corrected. People didn't really like that either, oh well can't please everyone Im the MAN

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Run off the side?
I love when I see water running down my panels :)
 
Have you done the baggie test? It may just be that the paint is contaminated. As was already mentioned, iron-X and clay is the solution.
 
Maybe the OC is gone from poor prep. How long has it been on and does it bead on the horizontal panels?
 
Romans5.8 said:
Have you done the baggie test?
It may just be that the paint is contaminated.
As was already mentioned, iron-X and clay is the solution.
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How did the paint....that's residing underneath the Opti-Coat Coating...become contaminated?
Isn't ~2 microns of Coating-protection enough to stop this from happening?


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Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
How did the paint....that's residing underneath the Opti-Coat Coating...become contaminated?
Isn't ~2 microns of Coating-protection enough to stop this from happening?


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Bob
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I'm sure he meant the OC is contaminated.
 
Maybe it's doing what it's supposed to? Beading never impressed me, sheeting does.
 
FUNX725 said:
How did the paint....that's residing underneath the Opti-Coat Coating...become contaminated?
Isn't ~2 microns of Coating-protection enough to stop this from happening?


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Sorry Bob.

The surface of the vehicle, in this case, the surface of the OC may be contaminated. Naturally, I used the incorrect term! It is my understanding that beading and sheeting are affected by whatever is on 'top' regardless of what's underneath. So if you put wax on top of a coating, it'll bead like that wax, not like the coating. Likewise, if there's contamination on top of OC, then, it'll bead like a contaminated car! At least that's how I understand it.
 
It was put on in June 2013 by a well respected detailer he is actually known world wide but don't want to throw him under the bus on this one. I did the baggie test and its nothing too horrible, just a little here and there.


It's not sheeting, I can assure that, its been looking worse and worse the last few times, its is running like it would a car with no wax and then looks very blotchy.

Rsurfer said:
Maybe the OC is gone from poor prep. How long has it been on and does it bead on the horizontal panels?
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hernandez.art13 said:
That is why instead of spraying a car with water and watching the beads just sit there, especially when talking to a potential customer. I just get cup of water and pour it on the paint and show them how the car pretty much dries itself on my own car. I suggested this back when I came on here, but people didn't like it very much so I just left it at that. I still do this method, instead of beading and letting the water sit on my paint, I prefer to sheet the water and getting everything and anything off my paint, but to each there own. Plus when you pour a cup of water you can show them how the car's paint will look once corrected. People didn't really like that either, oh well can't please everyone
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I like exactly what you said and it makes perfect sense.

As a side note I'm still flabbergasted by the amount of people who think that Dawn is magic in a bottle.:dunno:
 
twitch77 said:
As a side note I'm still flabbergasted by the amount of people who think that Dawn is magic in a bottle.:dunno:
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I don't ever use dawn on my cars, but I think the idea is dawn is a heavy degreaser. It'll break down most things on your paint, wax, sealants, some contaminants, road grime, etc. So it makes sense to use it as a 'first step' to a full detail, to aggressively strip anything you can before claying, polishing, etc. So the theory is here, if he has a layer of something bonded to the OC, the dawn might wash it off (since the dawn won't harm the OC)
 
I thought they were suppose to sheet? I thought beading was only temporary. I don't classify sheeting to no protection.
 
I will try to take some pictures or video and post them, it's not sheeting where the paint is dry afterwards it's more like a waterfall that leaves a "film" of water left behind which them is a pain to dry. Sort of like a car that doesn't have wax
 
Calibmw23 said:
I will try to take some pictures or video and post them, it's not sheeting where the paint is dry afterwards it's more like a waterfall that leaves a "film" of water left behind which them is a pain to dry. Sort of like a car that doesn't have wax
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Ahh... I think I know what you mean now. If say you did pour the cup of water, instead of sheeting off it just sits there and makes a type of pool of water.

Hard to explain, but I have a family member's car that does this as well. The car probably gets washed when it is driven in the rain and most likely never gets waxed.

I like how you said about not naming any names to not throw them under the bus. I completely agree and highly respect that. If I were you I would just give the detailer a call and see what their personal opinion is.

Plus you can always report back.
 
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