Need Guidance- Black Truck- 1 and Done

BlackRam said:
But if i did it by hand, I would need a h*ll of alot more pads right?

So UC and 205 is a good combo if I get a DA is the best best? Not an AIO w/o the wax?
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Not only would you need a bunch of pads to get through this correction by hand, it wouldn't look anywhere near as good by hand as being done with a DA polisher. If they're really light swirls you might get away with M-205 only by machine. You'll likely want 3 light cutting pads and 1 finishing pad to do the job by machine.
 
If he gets a DA then I'd pass on the Ultimate Compound and go with the Meguiar's Ultra Fine Polish first, if not enough than I'd go with the D151.
 
Thanks for all the info. It not bad at all. After a wash, my still looks sick. But under the right light, I can see some swirls. And a few scratches or rock chips, but I didnt cause them.

With all this info, still not sure which route to go?
 
BlackRam said:
Thanks for all the info. It not bad at all. After a wash, my still looks sick. But under the right light, I can see some swirls. And a few scratches or rock chips, but I didnt cause them.

With all this info, still not sure which route to go?
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If it was mine I would do a test spot with M205 to see of it removed the swirls, orange or white pad etc....

If not then I would move to WG TSR or Megs #83.....

Then finial polish with M205 or WG Finishing Glaze.

But that's me using a DA Polisher and with what I already have on hand.
 
HateSwirls said:
If he gets a DA then I'd pass on the Ultimate Compound and go with the Meguiar's Ultra Fine Polish first, if not enough than I'd go with the D151.
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At the risk of sounding like I'm being argumentative, (not my intention by the way) why would you recommend a product that contains a wax or sealant, just to go back and remove said wax or sealant to apply a coating? Sure it wouldn't be the end of the world...but definitely adding risk to the proper bonding factor for the coating.


jankerson said:
With a DA he might get by with M205 on an orange pad then follow up with a white pad and M205 if needed.

Depends on how bad it is....
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That's just what I was thinking.

I corrected an Aston Martin with 205 only. Granted, I was using a Flex 3401 with a finishing pad, but AM paint is definitely harder than Dodge paint.

Factor in also that the OP would be going through a learning curve with the DA polisher as he'd be doing this job.

I guess what it really boils down to is what looks acceptable to the OP? If the OP is happy with the look of hand polished paint...then go that route and just coat the paint after removing the polishing oils.

We could be complicating things for him.... I personally think we'd be saving him a lot of time and shoulder, arm, hand and back pain though. ;)
 
tuscarora dave said:
At the risk of sounding like I'm being argumentative, (not my intention by the way) why would you recommend a product that contains a wax or sealant, just to go back and remove said wax or sealant to apply a coating? Sure it wouldn't be the end of the world...but definitely adding risk to the proper bonding factor for the coating.




That's just what I was thinking.

I corrected an Aston Martin with 205 only. Granted, I was using a Flex 3401 with a finishing pad, but AM paint is definitely harder than Dodge paint.

Factor in also that the OP would be going through a learning curve with the DA polisher as he'd be doing this job.

I guess what it really boils down to is what looks acceptable to the OP? If the OP is happy with the look of hand polished paint...then go that route and just coat the paint after removing the polishing oils.

We could be complicating things for him.... I personally think we'd be saving him a lot of time and shoulder, arm, hand and back pain though. ;)
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I buffed my Ram out with M205 and Megs Yellow pad set on 5 using a G110 V2 to remove minor swirls and polish it....

Took me around 3 hours I think.
 
Ok let say I get the DA, the truck is b*tch to wash and wax, so I hear what you are saying about the truck being too big for a hand polish job.
Whats my shopping list?

thanks
 
BlackRam said:
Ok let say I get the DA, the truck is b*tch to wash and wax, so I hear what you are saying about the truck being too big for a hand polish job.
Whats my shopping list?

thanks
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Well...

GG DA Polisher.
LC 5" Backing plate.
6 x 5.5" LC Flat Pads, 3 orange, 2 white, one blue.

Megs M205 and UC.

Should do it.
 
tuscarora dave said:
At the risk of sounding like I'm being argumentative, (not my intention by the way) why would you recommend a product that contains a wax or sealant, just to go back and remove said wax or sealant to apply a coating? Sure it wouldn't be the end of the world...but definitely adding risk to the proper bonding factor for the coating.




That's just what I was thinking.

I corrected an Aston Martin with 205 only. Granted, I was using a Flex 3401 with a finishing pad, but AM paint is definitely harder than Dodge paint.

Factor in also that the OP would be going through a learning curve with the DA polisher as he'd be doing this job.

I guess what it really boils down to is what looks acceptable to the OP? If the OP is happy with the look of hand polished paint...then go that route and just coat the paint after removing the polishing oils.

We could be complicating things for him.... I personally think we'd be saving him a lot of time and shoulder, arm, hand and back pain though. ;)
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Didn't read the part of the coating.
If using a coating I'd for sure use the DP Prep Polish before applying any coating.
So now I say use the 205 then the prep polish and coat.
 
You don't have to spend a fortune on a DA polisher. The Harbor Freight model is just fine for weekend warriors and cost far less that others.

I've done both mid- and full-sized SUV's by both hand and machine. After seeing the difference in results and how much less time/effort was spent doing the work, it more than justified the cost of the machine. I couldn't imagine having to do any type of correction on a full sized truck by hand.
 
tuscarora dave said:
That looks fantastic!! Not sure that could be achieved by hand..:buffing:
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Thanks Dave! Spent almost 16hrs (taking my time) correcting that one! I wouldn't even attempt it by hand! Way too much real estate. That and the fact that Ram paint is quite hard. The truck was done with a Flex, CCS pads, Menz 2500, Menz 4000, and then sealed with WDGPS and then Netshield about a week later. I'm really liking Netshield lately! :-)
 
HateSwirls said:
Is this your truck?
Very stunning pictures:dblthumb2:
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Yes sir! And it's a pain in my ass too! Lol! Looks fabulous when its properly clean and like total crap when it's anything more than slightly dirty! It's sees lots of miles over snow and salt covered roads so its hard to keep it clean. Hopefully winter will be gone soon. :-)
 
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