Is there a need for water washes ?
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Unless the car is 4x4 caked with mud dirty then I know a lot of guys only do waterless and rinseless washed due to where they live and the codes and regulations for their geographical area.
The key besides a great waterless or rinseless wash is to have LOTS of microfiber towels on hand. You can't expect to produce scratch-free results by using only a few microfiber towels, especially if the car has not been washed in a while and the lower panels have a healthy dirt build up.
The key besides a great waterless or rinseless wash is to have LOTS of microfiber towels on hand. You can't expect to produce scratch-free results by using only a few microfiber towels, especially if the car has not been washed in a while and the lower panels have a healthy dirt build up.
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Unless the car is 4x4 caked with mud dirty then I know a lot of guys only do waterless and rinseless washed due to where they live and the codes and regulations for their geographical area.
The key besides a great waterless or rinseless wash is to have LOTS of microfiber towels on hand. You can't expect to produce scratch-free results by using only a few microfiber towels, especially if the car has not been washed in a while and the lower panels have a healthy dirt build up.
Thanks Mike!!!!!!! I feel honored for you to answer my question lol !
Just02896
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I still can't get my head around waterless washing! I though about trying it many times but my vehicles get pretty dirty and my common sense tells me to steer clear. The only time I'd ever truly feel comfortable doing a waterless wash would be on a garage queen that was already pretty clean. Rinsing the majority of dirt from the paint just makes the most sense to me. All it takes is just one tiny speck of junk to reverse the many hours of correction that may have been done prior. Guess I'm just not brave enough to try it! Lol!
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Unless the car is 4x4 caked with mud dirty then I know a lot of guys only do waterless and rinseless washed due to where they live and the codes and regulations for their geographical area.
The key besides a great waterless or rinseless wash is to have LOTS of microfiber towels on hand. You can't expect to produce scratch-free results by using only a few microfiber towels, especially if the car has not been washed in a while and the lower panels have a healthy dirt build up.
Thats why I chose rineless. I live in an apartment. Plus cant afford a truck and water tank ect plus less legel to worry about. And using less water and eco friendly I use as a marketing tool.
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DetailingNoob
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Our main focus in all these car washing techniques is not to induce scratches or swirls onto our paint. Which is why I have a hard time wrapping my head around a car wash without water. Aren't you only smearing all that dirt/dust/contaminants across the paint when you don't use water?
thebamboo23
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the main key is lubricity
thats why you need a quality solution and quality plush mf towels
thats why you need a quality solution and quality plush mf towels
DetailingNoob
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I need to wash my car. It has mud on it (splashed on by a passing car).I'll just use a MF soaked with UWW+ (or ONR) and a hand pump sprayer. I'll soak the dirt with sprayer, removing what I can. Then I'll run a continuous spray as I gently remove what's left with MF. I'll follow this up with a waterless wash.
I can't see how a two bucket wash could be any safer.
I don't own a pressure washer.
I can't see how a two bucket wash could be any safer.
I don't own a pressure washer.
Just02896
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Not sure if serious!
Floating the bulk of the dirt of with running water and then 2 bucket washing is the absolute safest way to clean a dirty car.
Blaze5154
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X 2 on 2 bucket washing but also using grit guards will safeguard the potential of contaminating the sponge/wash mit with particles that will cause scratches
Just02896
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Forgot to mention that. Sometimes I assume others know that grit guards are mandatory with a two bucket wash.
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The only towel marks I have made on my black Toyota have been a result of waterless/rinseless washes and perfect technique. Waterless washes have their place but only after pressure washing for me.
DetailingNoob
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100% Agree. Also throw in a foam cannon or foam gun to let the soap sit a minute or two to loosen up the dirt/contaminants. :buffing:
Yeah, I'm serious.
You're using water at hose pressure to initially remove heavy dirt (unless your spraying foam. Not typically what one would consider part of the two bucket system). I'm using a lubricating solution at pressure sprayer pressure.
To get the remaining dirt particles, you're using a mitt saturated with soap solution. I'm using a MF saturated with lubricating solution (rt hand) while providing a steady spray of the same solution (lf hand) on the area the MF is cleaning. You rinse your mitt in a bucket. I change the face of my MF just as often. You do the entire auto the same way. I switch to waterless wash for the areas of light dust.
Yeah, I think my way is just as safe. Plus it's quicker, easier to dry, easier to lay in a spray wax as I'm drying and can be done on the fly (partial wash jobs if I choose).
? something I'm missing?
You're using water at hose pressure to initially remove heavy dirt (unless your spraying foam. Not typically what one would consider part of the two bucket system). I'm using a lubricating solution at pressure sprayer pressure.
To get the remaining dirt particles, you're using a mitt saturated with soap solution. I'm using a MF saturated with lubricating solution (rt hand) while providing a steady spray of the same solution (lf hand) on the area the MF is cleaning. You rinse your mitt in a bucket. I change the face of my MF just as often. You do the entire auto the same way. I switch to waterless wash for the areas of light dust.
Yeah, I think my way is just as safe. Plus it's quicker, easier to dry, easier to lay in a spray wax as I'm drying and can be done on the fly (partial wash jobs if I choose).
? something I'm missing?
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Why bother with multiple microfiber towels? The mobile car wash guy that comes around my office building does $8 washes with a few squirts of what is presumably waterless and then wipes it all off with a single terry cloth towel. Saw him drop it on the ground once and keep going.
To quote a line from Apocalypse Now, the horror...the horror.
To me its the practical equivalent of keying a car. Never had an issue with rinseless, so I do that with waterless as a pre-soak whenever I don't have time for a two bucket. Not saying waterless isn't valid, but technique, including multiple high quality MF's is key.
To quote a line from Apocalypse Now, the horror...the horror.
To me its the practical equivalent of keying a car. Never had an issue with rinseless, so I do that with waterless as a pre-soak whenever I don't have time for a two bucket. Not saying waterless isn't valid, but technique, including multiple high quality MF's is key.
I use a waterless all the time. Exclusively in fact. If I get a lot of heavy dirt, like in the winter running through slushy snow, I hit it with the coin op or touchless auto first. That knocks off all the junk and I do a waterless to get it clean. Been doing it that way for months without any micromarring or scratches. The only scratch is a couple of fine scratches on the hood and deck lid from ice melting and then sliding off. They'll get polished off here shortly.
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what is coin op or touchless ?