M105 user friendly for beginners

I know this is bad but what is lsp ? Sealent ? Wax?

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muscleman said:
I know this is bad but what is lsp ? Sealent ? Wax?

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You got it. Last step product. The last thing you put on the vehicle to consider it done. The protection that keeps all your hard work polishing looking great.
 
Cool just making sure lol i know it sounds bad but i started out a true beginner knowing nothing using megs cleaner wax ... i just like it lol good memories but do you guys think this is a good lsp .

Paste btw and applied by hand

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Cleaner wax is a way to chemically clean paint and leave an LSP all in one step. But it won't remove scratches in the paint, and if you use anything like a glaze or sealant and then top it with a cleaner wax it'll remove or compromise that layer.
 
muscleman said:
Ok i will try something diffrent , i have never buffed paint before but have read and watched 5 hrs of video so I'm ready to practice ... I plan on using an orange cutting pad lake country the kind with cirlcles on it.... out of alll the "beginner " compounds above which is easiest to use and not pricey. Oh and plan to follow the compound with white pad and m205

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Agreed with Ultimate Compound suggestions.

Do you already have M205 in your arsenal? If so, I personally would play with that first (sticking to 'least agressive' philosophy) with a cutting pad, and then follow with a finishing pad. You might be surprised with the result.

As someone who still consider himself a "newbie", I can relate. So many products & topics, it can be overwhelming. Best advice I could say is don't over think it. Don't compete with yourself. Keep the approach as simple as possible and expand from there.

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Please see this write up if you haven't already: Maximizing Your Product's Full Potential.
 
aim4squirrels said:
Cleaner wax is a way to chemically clean paint and leave an LSP all in one step. But it won't remove scratches in the paint, and if you use anything like a glaze or sealant and then top it with a cleaner wax it'll remove or compromise that layer.
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So what are examples of lsp that can be applied on top of a polish or glaze that are cheap but offer good shine... preferrably a paste

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Try Megs Ultimate Compound. IMO it does great work and is probably the best for beginners.

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crober53 said:
Try Megs Ultimate Compound. IMO it does great work and is probably the best for beginners.

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Sounds like ill go with that but does it cut pretty quickly i don't want it to take forever but do want it to be beginner friendly

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muscleman said:
So what are examples of lsp that can be applied on top of a polish or glaze that are cheap but offer good shine... preferrably a paste

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Any carnauba wax would work. Pick the price you can afford. They start around $15 and go to over $100. I used the P21s 100% carnauba and it gave a nice shine.
 
BrutalNoodle said:
Agreed with Ultimate Compound suggestions. But i will also got ultimate

Do you already have M205 in your arsenal? If so, I personally would play with that first (sticking to 'least agressive' philosophy) with a cutting pad, and then follow with a finishing pad. You might be surprised with the result.

As someone who still consider himself a "newbie", I can relate. So many products & topics, it can be overwhelming. Best advice I could say is don't over think it. Don't compete with yourself. Keep the approach as simple as possible and expand from there.

ps
Please see this write up if you haven't already: Maximizing Your Product's Full Potential.
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Thanks man and that was my idea exactly to use orange pad with m205 i heard it from junkman i beleive

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M105 was one of my first "serious" compounds I worked with. I think the best advice I can give is:

Let the product do the work. Try a less abrasive pad first.
Do small sections. If worked too far/hard, it can/will mar surfaces and dust everywhere.
I definitely recommend frequent pad cleaning. Looking back, the pad cleaner should have been on my first shopping list :)
 
Lol how many times can u clean a pad on the fly before u need to change to a nee pad ....saying i did the whole car in a day of course

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muscleman said:
Lol how many times can u clean a pad on the fly before u need to change to a nee pad ....saying i did the whole car in a day of course

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Interested to know this also. I'm about to try my first machine polish. I was thinking do one panel, clean pad, do a second panel, then switch to a new pad. Or could I get more panels out of one pad?
 
Riff said:
Interested to know this also. I'm about to try my first machine polish. I was thinking do one panel, clean pad, do a second panel, then switch to a new pad. Or could I get more panels out of one pad?
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That would be fine for compound but is a little excessive. I usually use 2-3 pads for compounding cleaning after each pass. For polishing I use 1-2 pads cleaning every other pass.

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I agree with Mark. I use 2-3 pads on the avg car and 4+/- on SUVs compounding. Polish is about half. Of course clay barring first.
When I got my Escalade a few years ago it looked like someone drive it through the Thornbush National Park. I used the orange pads and ultimate compound, then mixed the UC with 205 did another step, then 205 only. This was my first ever true paint restoration without my father, who taught me, supervising. About 12 hours later it was 95% with two coats of klasse sealant then WG wax.

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muscleman said:
Sounds like ill go with that but does it cut pretty quickly i don't want it to take forever but do want it to be beginner friendly

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I know this is late, but I used the Ultimate Compound for my first try with a 7424XP. It was some old beat up paint, so i didnt have to worry about messing it up anyway, but I was happy with the results. It was really easy to work with. I also used some quick detailer to prime the pad

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/79521-1998-civic-paint-correction-newbie.html
 
^ harder to work with: I'd say 3M rubbing compound

Easier to work with: Menzerna FG400
 
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