Uww+ vs garry deans infinite use detail juice
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swanicyouth
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I think IUDJ is every bit as good as UWW+. Really, both are first class products. It's like splitting hairs saying which is better. If you have one, you probably don't need the other. If your shopping here and want to support AG, get UWW+ - it also comes out a bit cheaper.
andrewbmw
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No one talks about Meguiars waterless wash which I find odd. People are raving that UWW+ can make 5-6 gallons for $20. Meguiars,Express wash goes for max $40 and can make 128 gallons of waterless wash!!! Yes, it does not have any polymers in it, but if you are looking at it from a pricing standpoint, holy smokes!
CM8 6MT
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Funny you mention this because I have a huge article coming our regarding D115 vs UWW+.
Second, D115 in fact DOES have polymers in it. Although I think your off on the 128 gallon portion. The recommended ratio is 4:1, which would allow you to make 5 gallons of product. Yes there are higher dilution ratios you can achieve, but you compromise looks & protection.
andrewbmw
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I am talking about D114
CM8 6MT
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Ah I see. I would have no idea then, I havent tried or compared that product. Ive only used & compared D115 to UWW+
Ultima wins in the price/dilution category. However D115 blows it out of the water in looks, slickness & protection left behind. To me, this is worth the extra money.
I use and love both Ultima WW+ & D115. I use Ultima when I need the paint cleaned and dont want any of the polymers interferring with the paint correction process.
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andrewbmw
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Meguiars has D114, which is express wash, and D115 which is express wash and wax. D114 can be diluted to 1:256 for waterless or rinseless wash. D115 should be diluted 1:4 some people dilute it all the way to 1:8.
D114 Makes 128-256 gallons of ready to use product for about $35. This has no wax and cleans the surface really well with extremely small amount of residue they you wipe off. Great bang for your buck, but no protection. Can use at stronger dilution ratios to use like an IPA for taking of compounding and polish residues.
D115 makes around 5-10 gallons of ready to use for $65. Not so good for bang for your buck. It has waxes in it and will require you to buff it off to level and take off extra residue. Fantastic waterless wash that leaves great protection behind. I would include a wax and wash into any detailers arsenal because they pay extra for the wax and it does not take to much time to buff it off for an extra $20 =)
UWW+ makes 5-6 gallons for about $20. Extremely easy to use, good for bang for your buck compared to D115, but not so much compared to D114. UWW does have polymers for protection and I have heard it does not leave any residue. I really want to use it on a hot day here is Southern California on hot black paint and glass to see if it really does not leave anything behind because its hard for me to believe it doesn't. I want to try it out so maybe I could write a review on all 3 of these products?
So I see D114 as a great WW for maintenance washes and is great for cost savings. D115 great product, pricey, waxes whiles washing. What I would really like to test and find out is how UWW protection VS D115 protection.
Maybe I should write a review? =)
D114 Makes 128-256 gallons of ready to use product for about $35. This has no wax and cleans the surface really well with extremely small amount of residue they you wipe off. Great bang for your buck, but no protection. Can use at stronger dilution ratios to use like an IPA for taking of compounding and polish residues.
D115 makes around 5-10 gallons of ready to use for $65. Not so good for bang for your buck. It has waxes in it and will require you to buff it off to level and take off extra residue. Fantastic waterless wash that leaves great protection behind. I would include a wax and wash into any detailers arsenal because they pay extra for the wax and it does not take to much time to buff it off for an extra $20 =)
UWW+ makes 5-6 gallons for about $20. Extremely easy to use, good for bang for your buck compared to D115, but not so much compared to D114. UWW does have polymers for protection and I have heard it does not leave any residue. I really want to use it on a hot day here is Southern California on hot black paint and glass to see if it really does not leave anything behind because its hard for me to believe it doesn't. I want to try it out so maybe I could write a review on all 3 of these products?
So I see D114 as a great WW for maintenance washes and is great for cost savings. D115 great product, pricey, waxes whiles washing. What I would really like to test and find out is how UWW protection VS D115 protection.
Maybe I should write a review? =)
andrewbmw
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Doesn't UWWP have polymers?
Yes UWW+ does have polymers
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I wonder how Duragloss #932 (rinseless w/ Aquawax) compares. I have UWW+ and DG 932, but haven't had enough time to really compare them in many ways. Used both though and they're great. The DG 932 leaves no residue for me and comes out looking great. No scratches, etc, but I use 12+ MF towels for the paint alone each wash. This is all on soft, Honda paint
DG #932 is $40 for 128oz (1oz = 2gal.). Same dilutions as Meg's D114, but includes the 'Aquawax', which I've heard is more like a sealant.
DG #932 is $40 for 128oz (1oz = 2gal.). Same dilutions as Meg's D114, but includes the 'Aquawax', which I've heard is more like a sealant.
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Doesn't UWWP have polymers?
Yes it does, however they are not strong enough to impede with the correction process like D115.
Ive yet to have D115 or UWW+ streak on me...when used properly with quality towels. However...on a hot summer day your paint will be blistering hot. I dont care what product you have, it will streak in extreme temps.
As stated above, D115 leaves polymers behind for protection that have the potential to interfere with paint correction. UWW+ has polymers as well, just not as strong & durable.
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Can I ask where you got this dilution information from as I am interested and willing to try it. I have and use D114 and it says 1:256 for a Rinseless wash. This is not the same as a waterless wash.
D115 calls for 1:4 as a waterless and it works well. Have some diluted it further? Yes but it is not necessarily as as for effective. I know you can, but can and should are two different things.
So taking away from this I would think that D114 would be similar to D115 and need a dilution of 1:4 for a waterless wash.
I use quite a bit of UWWP+ as well! but only at the called for dilution ratio.
andrewbmw
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My question is for UWW+ once you clean the surface and let it dry, do you have to buff it off? Because in there directions on autogeek it does not say. So i am assuming no buffing for UWW+? I know you have to buff for D115 and D114
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Im not sure im following. Regardless of what waterlesswash im using, I use a thick 600gsm towel for the initial wipe down. I do not let the product dry, I simply buff the remaining product with another quality towel.
Both UWW+ & D115 require very little product to encapsulate and remove dirt. For this reason I think many new users to waterless washes often tend to over-saturate a panel, and dont buff accordingly which leads to streaks.
UWW+ will streak if you let it dry on a panel without removing residue, along with any other waterless wash product.
andrewbmw
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I have done a looottttt of experimenting and should probably start writing reviews for it. I use it a 1:128 WW. I have polished hoods and got them dirty and try to make swirl marks in them. Yes you can still do it at 1:128 but its all about technique. I do a few things different as well. One of the main things is that I saturate the panel with a pump sprayer until its dripping off, then spay a bit on a mf then wipe off using many mf's and not re-introducing dirt into the paint.
I did a lot of testing before I used it on clients cars because I had never used a WW before. I tested a lot of product in many dilution ratios and found out a lot of interesting things.
Even at 1:128 I have not scratched any surfaces of the paint. But all of the cars I do it on are very lightly dirty. I am trying to find someone at meguiars to talk to about this and find out there recommendations and I would like to give them my input to improve the product but cant seem to post on there forum or talk to a rep or something.