Surgical buffing possible with DA?

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Greetings,

Since I've got a Flex 3401 I'm trying to find different uses for my Meg's G220v2.

Apart from basic use (polishing / finishing really soft paints and applying wax), I see a point of surgical buffing using small plates and pads. That would be an 'advantage' over the flex for really tight spots.

To fullfil my needs, I'm willing to try:

- Meg's G220v2 DA
- D.A Adapter 5/8" X 11
- Rotary Backing Plate Extension
- Flex-Foam HD Rotary Backing Plate, spot buff backing plate, 3" backing plate, circular polisher backing plate
- Lake Country Hydro-Tech 3 x 1.25 Inch Foam Pads, hydrotech buffing pads, polishing pads, spot buffs


So that's it, basically a DA with rotary plate adapter, rotary plate extension and rotary 3" backing plate, with ~3" Hydro-Tech pads.

In theory it looks like interesting for my needs,

but in practice, will it blend? (hahah sorry), will it work?

Thank you very much every opinion, I appreciate any help.

Kind Regards.
 
Good question sorry I don't have an answer for you .
I keep wanting a 3 inch set up for bike's.
Cant stop looking at that Flex PE14,, I know that low RPM would blend ;) with a 3 inch pad.
 
With all due respect I think you are wasting your time and money. Use the Megs polisher exactly as you are now and no further.
 
I'm not sure if the extension would work well with a DA. I'd be afraid the increased leverage from with the random orbit would break the DA.
 
Bob57 said:
Good question sorry I don't have an answer for you .
I keep wanting a 3 inch set up for bike's.
Cant stop looking at that Flex PE14,, I know that low RPM would blend ;) with a 3 inch pad.
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That would be awesome and spending less than ordering this AND a rotary... in fact, PE-14 would blend for sure!

TundraPower said:
With all due respect I think you are wasting your time and money. Use the Megs polisher exactly as you are now and no further.
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I plentiful understand your answer... I was a bit afraid of reading that but I may say that I agree with you and appreciate your answer.

Thanks for help,

Kind Regards.
 
TundraPower said:
With all due respect I think you are wasting your time and money. Use the Megs polisher exactly as you are now and no further.
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I agree with this advice. However, my DA, used now as a compliment to my Flex 3401 is a PC 7424XP so I use the available 3" backing plate and 3M MF pad for the close-in and small areas.
 
hollerstiltner said:
I'm not sure if the extension would work well with a DA. I'd be afraid the increased leverage from with the random orbit would break the DA.
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:iagree:

The extension will put much more stress on the DA's drive system and cause it to fail rather quickly.
 
hollerstiltner said:
I'm not sure if the extension would work well with a DA. I'd be afraid the increased leverage from with the random orbit would break the DA.
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Lots of things to consider, you may be right. I just don't like the yellow casing in meg's DA and for spots I'm having more success using 3401 with 4" CCS/Flat or even 5" Hybrids than using Meg's DA with 4" pads...

The ideal tool for what I'm looking for is a rotary, and unfortunately I will not be able to find a cheap (and safer) substitute for that one this easy!

Again, thanks for helping.
 
jsgntulok said:
I agree with this advice. However, my DA, used now as a compliment to my Flex 3401 is a PC 7424XP so I use the available 3" backing plate and 3M MF pad for the close-in and small areas.
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Just02896 said:
:iagree:

The extension will put much more stress on the DA's drive system and cause it to fail rather quickly.
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Great advice as well, thank you for support.

This is one of the questions you want to know but are afraid to ask... Well, I need so bad a 'surgical buffing setup' that I've lost my fear for a while ahahaa

Thanks everyone for answering,

Kind Regards.
 
I have many polishers and believe that a rotory will always be the tool for surgical buffing. But I will agree that you should stick to what you have unless you can justify spending money on a rotory with and extension and many 3 inch pads.
 
Just02896 said:
The extension will put much more stress on the DA's drive system and cause it to fail rather quickly.
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Agreed.

I would not advise your original setup Rafael as it will add more stress to the machine than what's its worth. I would just equip it with the smaller 3" plate and pads and go from there.

I know why you come up with your idea but that is only for rotary use.
 
Thanks for opinions. In fact, my smaller plate for Megs DA is actually 3.5" so it's used on 4" pads. However, if it's to use 4" pads, I'm leaning towards the Flex with 4" against G220v2 with 4".

Maybe getting an even smaller plate (like 3" suggested) may give some advantage to the Megs DA when it comes to spots. Like I've said, for 4" spots I still use the Flex.

I believe it's too much pretension to use Rotary Adapter, Rotary Extension, Rotary Backing plate... on DA ahhaha The final word here would be Rotary Polisher.

Again, thanks for opinion, I appreciate your help.

Kind Regards.
 
It will work with 3" pads on a rotary backing plate with the adapter.

I did not try it with the extension. I found that the added length provided by the adapter and the protection of the padding on the housing allowed me to get into most tight areas.

I would also suggest buying a backing plate that does not have a thick foam layer. I think this thick layer prevents the effective transmission of the motion of the PC all the way to the pad, increases heat build-up and leads to premature pad failure.

You can't turn it up much past speed 3-4 or you will destroy the pad and backing plate (photos #3 & #4).


Even given these limitations, it is better than polishing anything by hand.







 
Yes, gorgeous reply. You just put together 75% of what I want to join here, apart from the extension.

I was able to understand that I may have to adapt technique if using a different setup. Without adapter (by your pictures) show that even this way spot buffing may have some benefit.

On the other hand, I know what happened to picture 3 and 4. It's not an adapter fault, not even backing plate's fault. It's ~Meguiar's MF discs fault. They heat and melt, that's why recommendation with them is lower speeds.

I have a similar damage (very minor area than showed) that happened while using Meg's MF Finishing Disc.

The backing plate in question was the Meguiar's 5" plate, the Recommended to be used with 5.5" MF Cutting / Finishing Discs.

I was using MF Finishing on speed 4 on my Meg's DA and Meg's Backing Plate (D301 as an AIO), and when I finished the work I could see this 'melting' on my plate and back of pad.

Fortunately the damage was minor and either (pad and plate) could be used later. I just don't use them past speed 3 anymore.

Again, thanks for precious help.

Kind Regards.
 
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