Compound/Polish for Chevy Paint?

[AlwaysLoyal]

I had a question in which compound/Polish would be best suit for my 2014 Impala. I'm currently using meguairs ultimate compound but it's not enough to take the swirls out. Any suggestions?


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[JHL88]

What pads/machine do you use with Ultimate Compound? It should be enough to use with GM paint. Its hard, but UC works for me with my '13 Silverado.

I would look into getting some MF cutting discs/pads. It's cheaper than buying a bottle of something new.

 

[AlwaysLoyal]

What pads/machine do you use with Ultimate Compound? It should be enough to use with GM paint. Its hard, but UC works for me with my '13 Silverado.

I would look into getting some MF cutting discs/pads. It's cheaper than buying a bottle of something new.

I'm using a PC7424xp, and a orange compound foam pad. Maybe I have to finesse my technique lol


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[Rsurfer]

What pads/machine do you use with Ultimate Compound? It should be enough to use with GM paint. Its hard, but UC works for me with my '13 Silverado.

I would look into getting some MF cutting discs/pads. It's cheaper than buying a bottle of something new.

:iagree:Get some Meg's MF pads.

 

[inDetail]

I personally like the Buff & Shine MF pads much better. More MF on the surface, Foam backer is much thicker. They just feel more solid.

 

[JHL88]

I'm using a PC7424xp, and a orange compound foam pad. Maybe I have to finesse my technique lol


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You can correct with the setup you have it will just take longer. Make very slow arm movements and more passes on speed 6 and it should work.

There are several things you can do here.

sell the PC and get a Flex 3401vrg. This will yield you the more dramatic cutting power. Like I stated before, get some MF discs for your PC this will give you a significant amount of cutting power.

You can change your compound to lets say Meg's 105/101. D300 with MF discs. This would help some.

You can also reduce your pad size for a more efficient cut.

It's all in what you want to do or how much you want to spend.

I honestly only use my Megs G110v2 (PC equivalent) with my 4 inch pads on smaller areas. Everything else I tackle with my Flex3401.

Ive never run into something I couldn't correct with Flex+MF cutting pad+a good compound.

 

[AlwaysLoyal]

You can correct with the setup you have it will just take longer. Make very slow arm movements and more passes on speed 6 and it should work.

There are several things you can do here.

sell the PC and get a Flex 3401vrg. This will yield you the more dramatic cutting power. Like I stated before, get some MF discs for your PC this will give you a significant amount of cutting power.

You can change your compound to lets say Meg's 105/101. D300 with MF discs. This would help some.

You can also reduce your pad size for a more efficient cut.

It's all in what you want to do or how much you want to spend.

I honestly only use my Megs G110v2 (PC equivalent) with my 4 inch pads on smaller areas. Everything else I tackle with my Flex3401.

Ive never run into something I couldn't correct with Flex+MF cutting pad+a good compound.

Thanks for the tip! I'm saving for the flex at the moment, I'm a just have to settle for some MF pads or just keep at it with the setup i got. Any suggestions foam pads that will do the trick? I also have the M105 but was hesitant to try it on my paint I'm a have to give it a go next time.

 

[281]

Thanks for the tip! I'm saving for the flex at the moment, I'm a just have to settle for some MF pads or just keep at it with the setup i got. Any suggestions foam pads that will do the trick? I also have the M105 but was hesitant to try it on my paint I'm a have to give it a go next time.

Save your time and effort with the current setup if you plan on getting a Flex. When you do pick up a Flex, may I suggest picking up Menzerna FG400 & SF4000 with LC hybrid pads...

 

[The Guz]

Give M105 a try with an orange foam pad. GM paint can be hard so D300 and meguiar's MF pads work great for that.

 

[Dayonta675]

I wish I did a little bit more research before buying a DA, the PC XP is great but I had the luxury to try my friends Flex 3401vrg -- unfortunately it's on a whole nother level. Don't get me wrong, the PC is great and for double+ the cost the Flex should be better and it is... It just feels so much more planted and balanced, good results are so much easier to achieve. Maybe in a few years I'll snag one or a Rupes.

 

[281]

I wish I did a little bit more research before buying a DA, the PC XP is great but I had the luxury to try my friends Flex 3401vrg -- unfortunately it's on a whole nother level. Don't get me wrong, the PC is great and for double+ the cost the Flex should be better and it is... It just feels so much more planted and balanced, good results are so much easier to achieve. Maybe in a few years I'll snag one or a Rupes.

We all have to start somewhere, I initially purchased a PC but soon upgraded to the 3401. Yeah, its quite a money to let go but I know I'm glad I did - night and day difference with 3401 & PC...

 

[Corey@OptimalDetailing]

Think starting off with a PC is what most of us do. I still use mine to this day for multiple reasons, but my Flex is my go to for hard paints. I would HIGHLY recommend Megs MF 5" system for the PC, or B&S MF pads for the Flex. The B&S are to thick and heavy for the PC to correct properly, IMO. You can do M105 with an orange pad combo for the PC, but it will take time. And a Flex is quite a learning curve, I'd get comfortable with the PC and Megs MF system. Your confidence and correction abilities with this system will sky rocket from your current combo.

 

[refreshauto]

I had a question in which compound/Polish would be best suit for my 2014 Impala. I'm currently using meguairs ultimate compound but it's not enough to take the swirls out. Any suggestions?


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you have the right tools, just have to bring the speed up to 6 on the PC with the orange pad and UC. chevy paints are on the harder side, so slow down your arm movement apply some pressure and do 5-6 cross hatch passes and you should be good to go. if that still doesnt work run down to auto zone or discount auto and get you some m105 and m205. make sure to mark your backing plate. you want to apply enough pressure but not enough to stop the pad from spinning and that is where marking your backing plate comes into effect

 

[AlwaysLoyal]

you have the right tools, just have to bring the speed up to 6 on the PC with the orange pad and UC. chevy paints are on the harder side, so slow down your arm movement apply some pressure and do 5-6 cross hatch passes and you should be good to go. if that still doesnt work run down to auto zone or discount auto and get you some m105 and m205. make sure to mark your backing plate. you want to apply enough pressure but not enough to stop the pad from spinning and that is where marking your backing plate comes into effect

Thanks for the tips! I already have the 105 and 205. Yea I have the UC and Polish from meguiars. After my first time using them it took some of swirls and scratches but not completely. I just need to add some more pressure and that should do it! Would any orange foam pad do? Or any suggestions on better pads, I'm currently using HF pads because I couldn't wait to try out my PC :laugh:


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[refreshauto]

Thanks for the tips! I already have the 105 and 205. Yea I have the UC and Polish from meguiars. After my first time using them it took some of swirls and scratches but not completely. I just need to add some more pressure and that should do it! Would any orange foam pad do? Or any suggestions on better pads, I'm currently using HF pads because I couldn't wait to try out my PC :laugh:


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I'm not sure about the HF pads as i have not used them, but they should be able to handle the job

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[allenk4]

Your PC with Ultimate Compound and an Orange Pad is more than adequate to correct almost any paint.

You are correct when you suppose that it is technique related.

With a PC it is very important that you mark you backing plate and make sure it is always rotating.

To get more cut out of the products you already have, you can adjust the following variables:

- Increase Downward Pressure

- Higher number of Passes

- Slower Passes

- Increase Speed Setting on the PC


Here is a tutorial by Mike Phillips that includes a video and focuses on maximizing the capabilities of the PC:

Dual Action Orbital Polisher Guide: how to remove swirls, scratches, & oxidation with an orbital buffer. Porter Cable 7424, foam pads, backing plate,


Have Fun, you will get it done with what you have

 

[AlwaysLoyal]

Your PC with Ultimate Compound and an Orange Pad is more than adequate to correct almost any paint.



You are correct when you suppose that it is technique related.



With a PC it is very important that you mark you backing plate and make sure it is always rotating.



To get more cut out of the products you already have, you can adjust the following variables:



- Increase Downward Pressure



- Higher number of Passes



- Slower Passes



- Increase Speed Setting on the PC





Here is a tutorial by Mike Phillips that includes a video and focuses on maximizing the capabilities of the PC:



Dual Action Orbital Polisher Guide: how to remove swirls, scratches, & oxidation with an orbital buffer. Porter Cable 7424, foam pads, backing plate,





Have Fun, you will get it done with what you have

Thanks for the help guys!


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[The Critic]

Each situation is different, and paint hardness can vary significant from vehicle to vehicle -- even within the same yr/make/model.

Since we do not have any pictures of the defects, it is hard to confirm whether your tools and chemicals are capable of removing the defects.

Similarly, it is possible that this is simply a technique issue.

I would reduce the size of your work area (shrink it down to 12"x12" or less), ensure that you are maintaining backing plate rotation (mark your backing plate) and slow down your arm speed.