Gilmore or CG Foam Gun

i have the butchers foam gun which is essentially the same as the gilmour just re-branded. it's the one with the brass bar with multiple settings. i like it better than the foam cannon because you can do more with it and you don't need to drag out the pressure washer as well. i've had it for 7+ years and it's one tool that will stay in my arsenal...
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Yeah but. The "I" gives an ounces-per-gallon setting, while the Bunny Gun instructions give a ratio (20:1, 30:1, 100:1 etc.) that don't exactly correspond to the "I" gun. I don't know if one is a rounded off version of the other, or what. There doesn't seem to be any info on the CG site (and as I stated previously, nor on the Gilmour site), so we're all counting on YOU to give us the straight skinny on what the instructions are on the Foamaster II.
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I just received the Foamaster II. It has the following printed on the bottle:

-Fill bottle with liquid chemical concentrate
-Set mixing dial to desired dilution rate per chart

0 = Off
A = 1:128, 1oz/gal
B = 1:64, 2oz/gal
C = 1:32, 4oz/gal
D = 1:20, 6oz/gal
E = 1:10, 12oz/gal

I never did hear back from Chemical Guys on how much concentrated soap to put in the bottle.

I'll experiment and report back.
 
Thanks for posting that, that's the same as the brass gun and how I remembered the II was. What I do, if you have a soap that dilutes at 1 oz/gallon, is put 8 oz of soap in the gun, and 24 oz of water. Put the gun at setting "C", that will give you 1 oz/gal out the nozzle--if you want it a little stronger or weaker adjust as necessary.

Note that is for thick soaps that won't draw properly in the gun in their undiluted state. If you have a very thin soap you can pour that directly in the cup, adjust your math and ratio as necessary.
 
Ronyx said:
I just received the Foamaster II. It has the following printed on the bottle:

-Fill bottle with liquid chemical concentrate
-Set mixing dial to desired dilution rate per chart

0 = Off
A = 1:128, 1oz/gal
B = 1:64, 2oz/gal
C = 1:32, 4oz/gal
D = 1:20, 6oz/gal
E = 1:10, 12oz/gal

I never did hear back from Chemical Guys on how much concentrated soap to put in the bottle.

I'll experiment and report back.
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Remember, the dilution ratio suggested on most car wash products is for a bucket wash

The dilution ratio with a foam gun would vary not only based on the ratio of soap to water in the jug, but also your water pressure (GPM).

You can time how long it takes to fill a 5 gallon bucket with the hose to roughly calculate GPM.


All to complicated for me. I get good results w/ 3oz of soap in my 32oz Gilmour with the settings at "Max Foam"
 
allenk4 said:
All to complicated for me. I get good results w/ 3oz of soap in my 32oz Gilmour with the settings at "Max Foam"
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The problem with that is you have to refill the gun more often. You are getting just over 1oz/gal the way you are doing it.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
The problem with that is you have to refill the gun more often. You are getting just over 1oz/gal the way you are doing it.
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I am able to heavily foam a full-sized SUV without any issues, using these settings.

3oz in 32oz container is actually 12oz per gallon.

The actual dilution rate when the flow of the garden hose is added...I have never calculated.
 
Why are you having to refill your gun?

Are you washing multiple vehicles?
 
allenk4 said:
I am interested to see your math, not sure I have seen it worked out on the Forum before.
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You caught me, I am just making this stuff up.






You have a total of 32 oz of liquid in your cup, of which 3 oz is shampoo. Regardless of the ratio, you have 3 oz of soap in the cup. You are using the "max" setting, which inserts 12 oz of your cup mixture into each gallon of water coming out of the nozzle.

12/32 is .375, so .375, or 37.5% of what is in the cup is being dispensed per gallon of liquid delivered out the nozzle. .375 x 3 oz = 1.125 oz (per gallon) 3/1.125= 2.67, which is the number of gallons of mixture that you can dispense before you run out of concentrate.

That is why I like to do it my way, I can dispense 8 gallons of wash before I have to refill, which means I don't have to refill my gun in the middle of my party.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
You caught me, I am just making this stuff up.






You have a total of 32 oz of liquid in your cup, of which 3 oz is shampoo. Regardless of the ratio, you have 3 oz of soap in the cup. You are using the "max" setting, which inserts 12 oz of your cup mixture into each gallon of water coming out of the nozzle.

12/32 is .375, so .375, or 37.5% of what is in the cup is being dispensed per gallon of liquid delivered out the nozzle. .375 x 3 oz = 1.125 oz (per gallon) 3/1.125= 2.67, which is the number of gallons of mixture that you can dispense before you run out of concentrate.

That is why I like to do it my way, I can dispense 8 gallons of wash before I have to refill, which means I don't have to refill my gun in the middle of my party.
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Nice :dblthumb2:
 
Setec Astronomy said:
You caught me, I am just making this stuff up.






You have a total of 32 oz of liquid in your cup, of which 3 oz is shampoo. Regardless of the ratio, you have 3 oz of soap in the cup. You are using the "max" setting, which inserts 12 oz of your cup mixture into each gallon of water coming out of the nozzle.

12/32 is .375, so .375, or 37.5% of what is in the cup is being dispensed per gallon of liquid delivered out the nozzle. .375 x 3 oz = 1.125 oz (per gallon) 3/1.125= 2.67, which is the number of gallons of mixture that you can dispense before you run out of concentrate.

That is why I like to do it my way, I can dispense 8 gallons of wash before I have to refill, which means I don't have to refill my gun in the middle of my party.
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Thanks

I think you are mixing very strong at 128:1

That would get expensive for me using 8oz of soap per foaming, plus the 2oz I use in the bucket.


The math on 3oz of soap:

So it takes 8 gallons of hose water to empty the 32oz container on your Gilmour. This number does not change if the soap ratio is altered up or down, so:

8 gallons hose + 29oz water in container = 1,056oz water used total used

Dilution rate would be 352:1

This is within the range of 500:1 suggested for many soaps when used for a bucket wash.
 
allenk4 said:
I think you are mixing very strong at 128:1

That would get expensive for me using 8oz of soap per foaming, plus the 2oz I use in the bucket.
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Dude, you do what you want. 128:1...1oz/gal, the recommendation for many soaps. If they recommend 1/2 oz per gallon (or whatever) I adjust accordingly. You are using 1.125 oz/gallon, and you're telling me I'm very strong at 1 oz/gallon? As I noted earlier, I am on the middle hole, I can easily adjust to more diluted or less diluted depending on what floats my boat that day. And I'm not using 8oz of soap per foaming, I'm putting 8 oz in the gun and using it a 1 oz per gallon, the gun gets emptied depending on how much washing I'm doing.

Did you figure out how they are getting the water to LA yet?

allenk4 said:
The math on 3oz of soap:

So it takes 8 gallons of hose water to empty the 32oz container on your Gilmour. This number does not change if the soap ratio is altered up or down, so:
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No, it changes by what hole you have selected on the metering bar. It takes 8 gallons to empty it when it's set at 4 oz/gallon, you stated you have it on "max" which is 12 oz/gallon, so it takes 2.67 gallons of hose water to empty your cup. As I said, I've been doing this for 10 years, with all kinds of soaps of different viscosities and dilution ratios. You said:

allenk4 said:
All to complicated for me. I get good results w/ 3oz of soap in my 32oz Gilmour with the settings at "Max Foam"
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I'm confident in my math. You do what makes you happy.
 
"You do what makes you happy."

Thanks, I appreciate your permission

Never was arguing with you, just pointing out the differences between what you are using and having success with and what I am doing...and having success with

Enjoyed the discussion



BTW, the water in LA comes from the sky...at least in the beginning
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Someone else's sky:

Aquafornia
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I suppose, but you don't grow a lot of Fruits and Vegetables in New Jersey

You also don't grow very many hot Women either.

So you are welcome for all of these things


I admit, I have never been to Jersey, just going by what everyone says


All in Fun
 
Ronyx said:
I just received the Foamaster II. It has the following printed on the bottle:

-Fill bottle with liquid chemical concentrate
-Set mixing dial to desired dilution rate per chart

0 = Off
A = 1:128, 1oz/gal
B = 1:64, 2oz/gal
C = 1:32, 4oz/gal
D = 1:20, 6oz/gal
E = 1:10, 12oz/gal
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Setec Astronomy said:
Thanks for posting that, that's the same as the brass gun and how I remembered the II was.
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I'm dragging this old thread back up because when someone had mentioned the Bunny gun it was too good a deal to pass up. I guess I didn't really look at it when I got it, because instead of being 0, A, B, C, D, E, it's 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 0 isn't off, it's the biggest hole.

Upshot is this seems to match some Bunny lit I found (nothing came with the gun about the ratios, unless I lost it) that show the ratios a bit different and instead of off and 5 ratios, it's 6 ratios (1:10, 1:20, 1:30, 1:40, 1:100, 1:300). So I'm not sure if the Bunny is not really a rebranded Gilmour, it may be a knockoff, although from hunting around a little and seeing some similar guns, it may be a metric version which is sold elsewhere (the Bunny instructions that came with the gun certainly seem to be written by someone for whom English is not a first language).
 
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