What is Gtechniq?

[KevinGTNA]

OK, so I am a little lost as to where this thread started to go off the tracks, so I will just state again, if anyone does have any questions or wishes to discuss the GTechniq line in a little more detail, please feel free to reach out.

As for the rest of the things that have come up:

Cheese: My favorite is Sharp Cheddar. I like buying it in blocks instead of pre-cut slices or shredded. My favorite brand is Sargentos, but you just can't beat Target's in house brand that you can usually end up saving another 10% on.

Pam: They make a great grilling spray, but as for everything else, I would just stay with the generic brand.

Vinegar: I like to wash all my microfiber towels a second time with vinegar after doing a wash with soap. We all know that vinegar is the cure all for everything. :dblthumb2:

 

[cleanmycorolla]

They have some great products, I would almost 100% use them exclusively if they offered large refill sizes. Even if the price wasn't much different from buying 8 16oz bottles, I would buy a 128oz refill because of the ease of having it on hand. And more importantly, creating less waste for the landfills. I'm an eco-friendly detailer who pushes that in my marketing. So I go always go with products I can buy in bulk size. It's easier to store 5 big gallon size containers than 45 16oz bottles. It's a shame because I really really really like a few of their products. I just used 128oz as an example, obviously a product that comes in a 50ml bottle I wouldn't expect a 3800ml version. I just want a size where I buy it once and don't have to worry about reordering it for months if not longer.

With that being said, they have killer products, which as others have mentioned you shouldn't overlook just because of the price.

They sell 250ml size bottles I believe?!?!?!

 

[JWilliams.RadiantDetail]

They sell 250ml size bottles I believe?!?!?!

They do have larger sizes in certain products, their car shampoo, and I did see a big(er) EXO in a spray can, but only v1 not v2. And even the can still isn't really that big imho. I'm talking about their Perfect Glass and other products. Carpro has big sizes for even their high end products. 5 liter Hydro02, yeah it's $490 but they at least offer it. 50ml of EXO v2 wouldn't last long. I don't want to order 25 containers of it. I know GTechniq has a reason they don't offer bulk refills though. EXO was maybe a bad example because Carpro doesn't offer a huge sized CQuartz, but they have everything else in bulk.

This isn't a knock on them as a company, just an observation. I'll be putting a coating on my car soon and it will be EXO v2.

 

[Chase.Barnett]

They do have larger sizes in certain products, their car shampoo, and I did see a big(er) EXO in a spray can, but only v1 not v2. And even the can still isn't really that big imho. I'm talking about their Perfect Glass and other products. Carpro has big sizes for even their high end products. 5 liter Hydro02, yeah it's $490 but they at least offer it. 50ml of EXO v2 wouldn't last long. I don't want to order 25 containers of it. I know GTechniq has a reason they don't offer bulk refills though. EXO was maybe a bad example because Carpro doesn't offer a huge sized CQuartz, but they have everything else in bulk.

This isn't a knock on them as a company, just an observation. I'll be putting a coating on my car soon and it will be EXO v2.

I placed my order earlier today for EXO along with other stuff. I even called AG and talked to Nick about it. There's no doubt in my mind that I'm getting a great product.

 

[Greeley Autospa]

I just want to know if anyone has applied a wax on top of a c1/exo application. I just purchased the c1 and exo. Plan on doing 2 coats of exo and was thinking of topping it with pinnacle souveran.. Has anyone tried this??

 

[FUNX650]

I just want to know if anyone has applied a wax on top of a c1/exo application. I just purchased the c1 and exo. Plan on doing 2 coats of exo and was thinking of topping it with pinnacle souveran.. Has anyone tried this??

Although my "eyes-are-on-stalks"...
Why am I not surprised?!?!

:smh:

Bob

 

[MattPersman]

Can you do it? Sure? Has anyone, if they like the benefits of a coating then no. You are just masking all the properties of the coating until the wax wears off.

 

[HUMP DIESEL]

I just want to know if anyone has applied a wax on top of a c1/exo application. I just purchased the c1 and exo. Plan on doing 2 coats of exo and was thinking of topping it with pinnacle souveran.. Has anyone tried this??

I know that this has been discussed on numerous threads, but I will go ahead and discuss it here again, because I have experience with the above coatings.
GTechniq C1 is the base, but can be use alone.EXOv2 is the "topper" but it can be used alone as well. When you use both of these items together, the EXOv2 gives the ultra hydrophobic water sheeting that everyone wants, and also gives the slick silky feeling of a wax or sealant.
This is where going back and topping these two items is a futile exercise. It adds nothing to the coatings, and some argue that you are not getting a full bond anyway with the wax.
My advice is this; If you enjoy waxing your car, then do not coat it and just wax it every couple of washes. If you still want to do the coatings, for ease of maintenance, gloss and hydrophobic properties, then put up the wax and let the coatings do what they are supposed to do.

HUMP

 

[FUNX650]

because I have experience with the above coatings.

GTechniq C1 is the base, but can be use alone.

EXOv2 is the "topper"
but it can be used alone as well.

When you use both of these items together,
the EXOv2 gives the ultra hydrophobic

Would you be so kind to fill in the blanks below? TIA.

C1: As a Base/Stand-alone LSP...
Hydrophobicity degree = ___

EXOv2: Stand-alone LSP...
Hydrophobicity degree = ___

EXOv2: As a "Topper-of-C1-LSP"...
Hydrophobicity degree = Ultra
Ultra Hydrophobicity "contact angle" = _____




Bob

 

[HUMP DIESEL]

Would you be so kind to fill in the blanks below? TIA.

C1: As a Base/Stand-alone LSP...
Hydrophobicity degree = ___

EXOv2: Stand-alone LSP...
Hydrophobicity degree = ___

EXOv2: As a "Topper-of-C1-LSP"...
Hydrophobicity degree = Ultra
Ultra Hydrophobicity "contact angle" = _____

Bob

I will find out

HUMP

 

[FUNX650]

I will find out

HUMP

That'd be great!!

Bob

 

[HUMP DIESEL]

Would you be so kind to fill in the blanks below? TIA.

C1: As a Base/Stand-alone LSP...
Hydrophobicity degree = _It will still sheet water like other coatings, but it will not bead up or feel as slick as EXOv2. Similar to OC__

EXOv2: Stand-alone LSP...
Hydrophobicity degree = _This will have the beading and high hydrophobic degree, but not with the scratch resistance offered by C1__

EXOv2: As a "Topper-of-C1-LSP"...
Hydrophobicity degree = Ultra
Ultra Hydrophobicity "contact angle" = _115 degree contact angle, ultra hydrophobic and high level of slick and silky feel similar to a standard sealant or wax____

Bob

And my statement still stands that if I am coating it, I am not topping it with wax. I can vouch for the ultra hydrophobic effect of the C1 EXOv2 combo. I have it on my personal car and on evenings when it has rained, I get up in the morning and there are tight small beads of water and by the time I am about a mile from the house, the car is dry. I have washed it once since coating and it took me longer to prep than to wash, AF avalanche snow foam did not want to stick to the surface at all, but a high pressure wash pulled the vast majority of the road film off.

HUMP

 

[FUNX650]

I can vouch for the ultra hydrophobic effect of the C1 EXOv2 combo. I have it on my personal car and on evenings when it has rained, I get up in the morning and there are tight small beads of water and by the time I am about a mile from the house, the car is dry. I have washed it once since coating and it took me longer to prep than to wash, AF avalanche snow foam did not want to stick to the surface at all, but a high pressure wash pulled the vast majority of the road film off.

HUMP

•Since Super-Hydrophobicity occurs when the contact angle is between 150-180 degrees...

-Then...IMO:
Ultra-Hydrophobicity (as you stated is @115 degrees) is lagging way, way: far behind!

BTW:
•RainX's contact angle is also 115 degrees...
-I wonder why this product is never mentioned as being "Ultra-hydrophobic"?

Bob

 

[Greeley Autospa]

This bob guy confuses me on a whole other level. Anyways the rep from gtech emailed me and said do not top it with wax. I was only wondering for coverage of marring, thats why I asked. The car is not a daily driver but when it comes to shows perfection is the key. He did inform me that if I wash with the correct methods no micro marring should even occur. I hate waxing, but i hate imperfections and yes I know wax just covers them up temporarily but its a quick fix for shows.

 

[allenk4]

This bob guy confuses me on a whole other level. Anyways the rep from gtech emailed me and said do not top it with wax. I was only wondering for coverage of marring, thats why I asked. The car is not a daily driver but when it comes to shows perfection is the key. He did inform me that if I wash with the correct methods no micro marring should even occur. I hate waxing, but i hate imperfections and yes I know wax just covers them up temporarily but its a quick fix for shows.

If you want a "quick fix for shows"...you should be using glaze

I like Chemical Guys EZ Crème Acrylic

3M Imperial hand Glaze is also popular

 

[HUMP DIESEL]

•Since Super-Hydrophobicity occurs when the contact angle is between 150-180 degrees...

-Then...IMO:
Ultra-Hydrophobicity (as you stated is @115 degrees) is lagging way, way: far behind!

BTW:
•RainX's contact angle is also 115 degrees...
-I wonder why this product is never mentioned as being "Ultra-hydrophobic"?

Bob

What other coating out there is getting better? Modesta?

HUMP

 

[FUNX650]

What other coating out there is getting better? Modesta?

HUMP

•A Contact Angle of ~100-115 degrees is the range for the biggest majority of today's auto-related 'Coatings'.

•Some, like CarPro's, claim to have a Sliding Angle of just 15-25°.
-Is this an important factor to consider where 'Coatings' are involved?
-I wonder what EXOv2's sliding angle is.

•I'm also interested in the hierarchy of 'Coatings' as to their maintaining Hydrophobicity...under severely adverse conditions...for the longest time frame.

-Are there any 'Coatings', save Optimum's, that are permanent?


Bob

 

[allenk4]

I thought the second paragraph was particularly interesting as it relates to high contact angle and "self-cleaning":

"The hydrophobicity of a surface can be measured by its contact angle. The higher the contact angle the higher the hydrophobicity of a surface. Surfaces with a contact angle < 90° are referred to as hydrophilic and those with an angle >90° as hydrophobic. Some plants show contact angles up to 160° and are called super-hydrophobic meaning that only 2–3% of a drop's surface is in contact. Plants with a double structured surface like the lotus can reach a contact angle of 170° whereas a droplet's actual contact area is only 0.6%. All this leads to a self-cleaning effect.

Dirt particles with an extremely reduced contact area are picked up by water droplets and are thus easily cleaned off the surface. If a water droplet rolls across such a contaminated surface the adhesion between the dirt particle, irrespective of its chemistry, and the droplet is higher than between the particle and the surface. As this self-cleaning effect is based on the high surface tension of water it does not work with organic solvents. Therefore, the hydrophobicity of a surface is no protection against graffiti."

 

[HUMP DIESEL]

•A Contact Angle of ~100-115 degrees is the range for the biggest majority of today's auto-related 'Coatings'.

•Some, like CarPro's, claim to have a Sliding Angle of just 15-25°.
-Is this an important factor to consider where 'Coatings' are involved?
-I wonder what EXOv2's sliding angle is.

•I'm also interested in the hierarchy of 'Coatings' as to their maintaining Hydrophobicity...under severely adverse conditions...for the longest time frame.

-Are there any 'Coatings', save Optimum's, that are permanent?


Bob

That would be a good experiment. I would like to see testimony of guys on here that have had any coating more than a year or closer to two years that still are holding up well. GT Crystal Serum I think should be permanent, but I am not sure. I know that if you apply it incorrectly, that the only way to get it back off is to sand it.
Optimum would be the pro version, right? 2.0 is not permanent is it?

HUMP

 

[FUNX650]

•Optimum's Coatings are permanent ones.

•I agree with the following post (which I have "multi-quoted") by our most eminent resident Chemist, in regards to:

-permanency of Optimum's Coatings

Whilst it is permanent, it is not indestructible. If you do enough work on it, with an abrasive, it will come off.

-today's leaders in Coatings

As for leaders, dare I suggest that the actual leaders are names which are not known to this community...

Bob