Took my wheels to the local tire shop

2.ooohhh said:
My example was SMALL CLAIMS just b/c your claim is small doesn't mean that the total court costs incurred will be small. The majority of the cash he paid out of pocket was to my lawyer. His original claim was bickering about a few hundred dollars in towing and storage for his broken car. I got to keep the car b/c I was owed the non paid mechanical service and that's how mechanic's leans tend to always go in this state.


You say it's $100 in damage, if his attorney calls a wheel repair professional(who fixes wheels for a living) to the stand who then testifies it's only $50 of damage and that's what the shop based his offer on then you may all of a sudden find yourself at the wrong end of this case and end up paying for the shop's attorney and the witness. Right now you need to be figuring out what several other competent wheel repair shops would charge you to refinish the damaged wheels so you can counter with estimates on paper showing more damage or repair cost.
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+1, I remember my buddy took his X-employer to court over 3500 in compensation b/c he was let go. By the time it was over he owed his attorney so much more than that he begged him to take the judgement as payment in full which the attorney did. My point was all that work/time/effort/worrying got him nothing, usually only the attorneys benefit from going to court, it is a sad system, my Dad is an attorney so I hear it first hand.
 
cfiiman said:
+1, I remember my buddy took his X-employer to court over 3500 in compensation b/c he was let go. By the time it was over he owed his attorney so much more than that he begged him to take the judgement as payment in full which the attorney did. My point was all that work/time/effort/worrying got him nothing.
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Welcome to our legal system, where it's the lawyers that make all the money.
 
I get your points, but the chances of them getting an attorney are slim. If they do I have one of my own.

I just want what is right.
 
BradsDetailing said:
I get your points, but the chances of them getting an attorney are slim. If they do I have one of my own.

I just want what is right.
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they aren't going to need an attorney if they show up with evidence that they offered to repair the damage, and you turned it down wanting brand new wheels instead...
 
BradsDetailing said:
The owner did just contact me and, my name is Brad, he starts out by calling me "Kyle". And going on about still offering repair etc.

I did state I would share my experience with everyone I know and it would not be good for business, and he is choosing to think that as possible slander.

It's a truthful statement my experience was negative and slander involes a false statement so I don't get that.
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The underlined statement is what will likely escalate the shop to getting an attorney involved.(if it was my shop) Before you threatened to "share your experience" this was a matter of the business possibly taking a sub $1k hit to replace some wheels and appease an unhappy customer. Now you've put them on notice that their shop's reputation is on the line, if they have a reputation worth defending they may invest $1k several times over in the interest of protecting it.
 
2.ooohhh said:
The underlined statement is what will likely escalate the shop to getting an attorney involved.(if it was my shop) Before you threatened to "share your experience" this was a matter of the business possibly taking a sub $1k hit to replace some wheels and appease an unhappy customer. Now you've put them on notice that their shop's reputation is on the line, if they have a reputation worth defending they may invest $1k several times over in the interest of protecting it.
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pretty much. ^


and by telling that that you would only be "telling the truth about the experience". if you even step over that line slightly and they see it, they could take you for a lot of money or even jail time if they can prove that it caused a significant loss in business.

you could say that you took your wheels there and they came back unacceptable, and they were unable to make reparation to your standards, but if you go into any kind of speculation that can't be proven then they could easily bring charges up no problem.

it's best to stay away from making threats when someone else has deeper pockets. even if they can't get any charges to land, they'll put you in the poor house and make that money back in a few weeks anyway.
 
TurboToys said:
pretty much. ^


and by telling that that you would only be "telling the truth about the experience". if you even step over that line slightly and they see it, they could take you for a lot of money or even jail time if they can prove that it caused a significant loss in business.

you could say that you took your wheels there and they came back unacceptable, and they were unable to make reparation to your standards, but if you go into any kind of speculation that can't be proven then they could easily bring charges up no problem.

it's best to stay away from making threats when someone else has deeper pockets. even if they can't get any charges to land, they'll put you in the poor house and make that money back in a few weeks anyway.
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I don't know why you keep rambling about this. I know everything you just stated.

The shop damaged my wheels. I'm sharing it with you just like I would share with everyone else. He even admitted they did the damage.
 
BradsDetailing said:
Here in lies the problem, they are different. We have harsh winter and warm summer where I live and now I do not know wheel repair but what if that were to affect my wheels in the future. Also, are you giving me a ride to work and being my chauffeur while my car is sitting on blocks in my driveway?
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Your climate is not much different then what we have here in Iowa. You will not have problems with reconditioned wheels.

More then likley if you damaged a wheel in an accident, your insurence company would have it replaced with a reconditioned one.

And if you were so concerned about your wheels, why did you have the work done at a used tire shop? I would not think they have invested in the best equipment?
 
^^ read his first post.. He was told the shop would be closing within 30 mins and insisted he comes next day however the shop stated that it would be zero problems to do them at that time.
 
Black Bowtie said:
Your climate is not much different then what we have here in Iowa. You will not have problems with reconditioned wheels.

More then likley if you damaged a wheel in an accident, your insurence company would have it replaced with a reconditioned one.

And if you were so concerned about your wheels, why did you have the work done at a used tire shop? I would not think they have invested in the best equipment?
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Why would it matter?

I knew of them, I called cams club because mine has near me has a nice shop, but they only do it for tires they sell and not ones already purchased.
 
I was just reading through this and wanted to point out that what your should be aiming for is having the wheels powder coated by a pro shop the right way.

This would cost about $3-400 depending on how long it takes them to get the damage out. Plus the cost of having the wheels tires taken off and put back on.

I used to do powder coating (I had my own shop) and powder coat done right will out last your interest in the car. Seriously I have wheels that I did back 2003-2004 that still look fantastic.

When powder coating is done right, it attaches so well to the parts crazy. I had a set of winter wheels I coated and used to drive 112 mi each day on them. Finally I got a rock chip on one, and I was looking at it, a chunk of aluminum came off from the impact of the rock or what ever hitting it.

This is different than just some no name place "refinishing" your wheels with paint.

One guy brought me a set of Corvette Z06 wheels that he had widened by 1" on all 4. They were so curb rashed when he brought them in, and by the time I was done they looked better than brand new.
 
SpinAll4 said:
I was just reading through this and wanted to point out that what your should be aiming for is having the wheels powder coated by a pro shop the right way.

This would cost about $3-400 depending on how long it takes them to get the damage out. Plus the cost of having the wheels tires taken off and put back on.

I used to do powder coating (I had my own shop) and powder coat done right will out last your interest in the car. Seriously I have wheels that I did back 2003-2004 that still look fantastic.

When powder coating is done right, it attaches so well to the parts crazy. I had a set of winter wheels I coated and used to drive 112 mi each day on them. Finally I got a rock chip on one, and I was looking at it, a chunk of aluminum came off from the impact of the rock or what ever hitting it.

This is different than just some no name place "refinishing" your wheels with paint.

One guy brought me a set of Corvette Z06 wheels that he had widened by 1" on all 4. They were so curb rashed when he brought them in, and by the time I was done they looked better than brand new.
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Thanks for the feedback on powdercoating. Good to know for the future for anything I need painted.

As for the updates. We went to court last wednesday on the 17th. He told the judge he was guilty yet he did not feel he was responsible for the amount of money I was claiming which was the full cost of all four wheels, 4 center caps and 3 of the valve caps plus shipping. We go to mediation on 10/9 and I will ha another update then.

A gentleman came into my work last wednesday and said the same thing happened to him and the shop ended up having to purchase new rims.
 
Why is it that your before pictures don't show all the rusty lug nuts that seemed to appear in the after photos??????
 
BradsDetailing said:
Thanks for the feedback on powdercoating. Good to know for the future for anything I need painted.

As for the updates. We went to court last wednesday on the 17th. He told the judge he was guilty yet he did not feel he was responsible for the amount of money I was claiming which was the full cost of all four wheels, 4 center caps and 3 of the valve caps plus shipping. We go to mediation on 10/9 and I will ha another update then.

A gentleman came into my work last wednesday and said the same thing happened to him and the shop ended up having to purchase new rims.
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I just read like 115 posts, so I feel the need to weigh in. I agree 100% with the shop owner. Sorry.
 
This sucks no matter what the wheels are, OEM's or aftermarkets. I've had gashes put into the barrels of aftermarket wheels and asked "why did they have to use an air chissel to remove the weights?". IMO there has to be a better way, even on $110 a piece aftermarket wheels. I told the manager about this and was cool about and told him "hey, what if these were some BBS' or Volks?". He did offer to pay for a refurbish and I didn't want the tech to get into trouble so I blew it off because it was on the barrel and not the face but said you guys should bring this sort of thing up at the next meeting.

One other thing I do is ask them to use the torque wrench and/or 4 way and NO impact. I will surely be doing this with my Abarth as I have factory forged wheels on it.

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