Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase

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Well, it seems a respected fellow has already used gloss coat and his impressions are it's slicker off the bat, and still super slick after several weeks. His take was interesting, and makes the most sense. Especially how he'll price it all to help you pros.
 
Ordered a tube from Amazon. I'll try this out, since I've never used this stuff before and I can't get Zach to detail my ride. ;)


Zach is more than happy to detail your ride, but he has a significant waiting list :)
 
Another part-time pro bites the dust, so to speak. Have to wonder whether this was OPT's objective?

I've dropped OCP too. Already removed from my web page and I've started emailing clients with cars on the books.
 
It's really a shame that the Optimum network is losing talented detailers like yourself and others. Do you feel that was their intent, to cut out part-timers, and to what end?
 
It's really a shame that the Optimum network is losing talented detailers like yourself and others. Do you feel that was their intent, to cut out part-timers, and to what end?

I'm not sure what they were/are thinking tbh. I know they wanted to eliminate the guys selling it under MAP or passing off 2.0 as OCP, but this is not the way to handle it. I have no issue with the OC2 going away, and I have no issue with the $300 minimum monthly order. I do have a MAJOR issue with a 600% price increase over in just over 2 years (11/18/12 if I recall correctly). That's right, the same 40cc of product that cost me $100 in 11/12 now cost $600!

:bolt:
 
I work a full-time job and only detail part-time. Being a mobile detailer in Central Indiana means I can only offer my services part of the year (8 months out of 12, at best). Saturday's are my OC days. I'd love to be able to do 24 OC jobs each year, but the demand just isn't there, at least not at the price point outlined by OPT.


Agreed. In our area this one size fits all doesn't work for my business plan either. Been a fan and user since the beginning but have no plans for the present to continue.
 
Just got this in my email:

OPTIMUM LABOR DAY SPECIAL


FROM NOW UNTIL LABOR DAY (SEPTEMBER 1), OPTIMUM IS OFFERING THE OPTI-COAT WARRANTY PACKAGE FOR $125 – SAVE $25. ORDER DIRECTLY OR ONLINE AT OPTI-COAT.NET.

THIS SHOULD HELP THOSE WHO HAD PROJECTS LINED UP PRIOR TO THE ANNOUNCEMENT DISCONTINUING THE 40 ML SIZE.


THE OPTIMUM TEAM
 
On a completely unrelated note, I bet Corey at CarPro is having a great day!

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Hey Claude,

Have you thought about offering EXO or any of the GTechniq line?

I never did..... should I investigate them?

Just got this in my email:

OPTIMUM LABOR DAY SPECIAL


FROM NOW UNTIL LABOR DAY (SEPTEMBER 1), OPTIMUM IS OFFERING THE OPTI-COAT WARRANTY PACKAGE FOR $125 – SAVE $25. ORDER DIRECTLY OR ONLINE AT OPTI-COAT.NET.

THIS SHOULD HELP THOSE WHO HAD PROJECTS LINED UP PRIOR TO THE ANNOUNCEMENT DISCONTINUING THE 40 ML SIZE.


THE OPTIMUM TEAM

ROFL!!!!!! The big announcement, major rush to stock up and all of a sudden all retailers are OUT OF STOCK, and now they have a Super Labor Day Special!!! AWESOME!Im the MAN
 
Claude you really should I just did C1 plus 2 coats of EXO on my new Malibu and wow am I impressed.

You can always give me a call and we can talk about it.
 
full time pros can use Pro...because they can charge accordingly for the product. and doing $300 a month shouldn't be a problem at all. so those two things alone will separate the full timers from the part timers. and also, a fringe benefit is it will separate the guys who do it right as opposed to the pros who use the OPT auth status as a means to sell cheaper (inferior) products on a consistent basis. it's not hard to tell - a pro posts 15 cars a month on his facebook page and 14 have CQF installed? yeah, not a good deal for OPT to have them on their auth installer list.

if you aren't a full time pro...you can install Gloss-Coat and make a lot of money off of it using a great product. no warranty to sell, no quotas...just install and sell a product that has a durability claim that matches the warranty of the competitor's pro product.

if the customer wants a better product than Gloss-Coat, they will have to go see an auth installer for the more expensive Opti-Coat Pro. makes sense.

as far as the price increase...it's all relative. so, relative to the original price? yes, that's wild...600% is a lot. but i think he was SEVERELY underpriced to begin with. like..by a large margin. here's why: 40 cc of coating for $100? that's crazy. generally speaking, that's four cars worth of product. so, $25 worth of product can be installed and then resold for 15 or 20 or 25 times the cost? that means that the detailer is making MASSIVE margin and OPT is making peanuts. i am sure they weighed it out and said this isn't sustainable. so, they increased the price so now the shift is more in line...more reasonable margins shared between the supplier and the reseller/installer. they can sell less to those who really want it and can sell it for what it actually is...and make reasonable margin.

from my vantage point, this is what i think OPT's thought process was like:

- the reseller is making exponentially more money than we are. that needs to be adjusted - we made a mistake and are selling it for WAY too little money given the technology
- we are underpriced vs. the competition given our warranty and durability
- our dealer network is not living up to its name and not buying what we are advertising them as having...and in fact, many are selling competing products way more often because they are cheaper because they don't have the same durability.

all of that makes sense to me but what do i know!!!
 
Supply & Demand will always dictate price

Unless the following words are gently whispered into your ear...."I'm with the Government and I'm here to help."


Idealy, the increased revenue for OPT will allow them the resources to continue to develop even more fantastic products

Hopefully, everyone will be happy in the end
 
Idealy, the increased revenue for OPT will allow them the resources to continue to develop even more fantastic products

nobody is looking at it that way and it's a shame. my last post explains a real concern with businesses who develop products...not just resell someone else's. you need to make enough money to keep up that process (R&D, etc.) and it's not easy, particularly when you make the best stuff but price it so cheap, which is what OPT originally did. OPT is in the center of every competitor's dart board for a reason - they make great coatings and should be able to charge accordingly for the best products.

you can say it's subjective but i disagree. overall, OPT revolutionized all of this and in order to continue down that path, they need to sustain themselves. they do minimal marketing and from what i can tell, run a pretty lean operation, especially when you consider Dr. G himself is who is making these products!

kudos to those who are sensible and think this through with their business caps on.
 
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