Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase

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FUNX725 said:
Why is it so hard for the people, that write-up product descriptions, to use correct spelling, etc.?

What are they talking about here.
Is it something that's: gleaming, glossy, and/or lustrous; an outdoor hockey pick-up game; or climbing up a tree?


"QUARTZ SPARKLE contains 75%
pure quartz based in nano-technology,
The cured QUARTZ SPARKLE is as tough and rigid.
Inorgnaic coat will help you to maintain your car clean,
shinny, and scratch resistant".

And they want people to gush; and, then rush right over and buy their products?

Good Grief!!

Bob
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Cliffs: Asia, haha

you'd be amazed - at SEMA, where companies from Asia are spending tens of thousands of dollars to organize everything...they make huge banners and literature and so much of it is littered with errors. blatant errors, too. i don't get it. i'm saying even things like brand taglines and such are incorrect!

someone mentioned production costs as OPT stuff is 100% USA made...

i agree. he's making the stuff in Memphis. he literally does the entire R&D process, packaging, everything in the US. i always thought he was underpriced for the quality of product he was delivering to the market. it's a shame that there has been so much furor over this on the internet but it is what it is. i think it's just a lot of noise over something that we'll forget about pretty soon...especially as reviews for Gloss-Coat start invading the forum.

i feel like he pioneered the whole coating thing, especially on the consumer side, and i'll support that guy until the end because his product line rocks and he's a dude of the utmost integrity. he's awesome. if you can't tell by a high percentage of my posts on this forum...i can't praise the line enough for how much it has made life easier for me re: car care.

i hope it all works out.
 
Some of the information that has been posted on this thread was never to be seem by most of you and should've never of been posted and I ask Nick to take it down. The information was only meant for pro installers and not for the public to see.
 
Pureshine said:
Some of the information that has been posted on this thread was never to be seem by most of you and should've never of been posted and I ask Nick to take it down. The information was only meant for pro installers and not for the public to see.
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Why?

What specifically should not have been shared with the hobbyists?


All of the information I have seen was already available or would have become available soon after the launch

Are you referring to the prices authorized installers pay for Opti-Coat Pro? That was already widely known as is the suggested retail price to the consumer
 
allenk4 said:
Why?

What specifically should not have been shared with the hobbyists?


All of the information I have seen was already available or would have become available soon after the launch

Are you referring to the prices authorized installers pay for Opti-Coat Pro? That was already widely known as is the suggested retail price to the consumer
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The map price is not suppose to know by the consumer at all and there not suppose to know what we pay for OCP. This information was not meant to be posted on this forum or any kind of public forum.
 
allenk4 said:
My thought was that the the high amount of Silica didn't leave as much room for other ingredients that do not stay on the paint
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What all other coating companies love is how OC is shoved in with other coatings. OC is a clear coat, not a nano sealant (aka coating). That is why OC will outlast the other ones.
 
It's not a silca or siloxane or PHPS coating but Opticoat is still a coating - not extra clear (try polishing it and see how it lasts vs clearcoat)
 
kaanage said:
It's not a silca or siloxane or PHPS coating but Opticoat is still a coating - not extra clear (try polishing it and see how it lasts vs clearcoat)
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Not sure I understand what you are saying, but OC IS a clear coat. The other "coatings" are not clear coats. That is why the around 2 year durability.
 
tdekany said:
Not sure I understand what you are saying, but OC IS a clear coat. The other "coatings" are not clear coats. That is why the around 2 year durability.
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It is not clearcoat in the sense that people refer to clearcoat as a PAINT layer.
Opticoat is not paint - our Opticoat (and all other Optimum Polymer Technology products) distributor is happy to say this.
 
kaanage said:
It is not clearcoat in the sense that people refer to clearcoat as a PAINT layer.
Opticoat is not paint - our Opticoat (and all other Optimum Polymer Technology products) distributor is happy to say this.
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Opti-Coat (Opti-Guard) is a hard wearing, aftermarket, ceramic clear coat for superior resistance to scratching (9H)
 
Which does not make it paint.
There are other coatings with those same properties

If Opticoat was a clearcoat, then the applicators wouldn't need to worry about clearcoat strikethrough while correcting.

Try sanding through your clear and then Opticoating it - it won't look the same.
 
I just applied Sonus Ion coating/sealant... durability claims for a year, but let's say 6 months of protection, ... for under $30-- I get about 3 years.. applying 2 times a year.

Effortless, no hassle,

I have family in Memphis, so I always tried to support Optimum. Guess I can still buy their clay.
 
One thought I have is that it seems for the hobbyist OC installation always seemed a bit hit or miss. Maybe OC isn't as popular as before - but there used to be a lot of "My OC failed/isn't beading" threads.

I'm not saying the product was at fault. I'm saying that OC seemed to be very sensitive to having a surface prepped a certain way for the coating to last.

Maybe the new consumer product is a bit more forgiving?
 
try jacking up your prices for a wash and wax by 40% in one shot, see how many customers come back...

if there goal was to get the price "on par" they should of raised it by smaller increments over a longer period.

I'm not a pro installer, so I won't comment on the pro coatings, but from a consummer point of view, seems to me they almost double the price for a product that already has lots of competition. the cost per car was already higher than the competition, but now it seems to me the difference is too high to justify.
 
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Opti-Coat (Opti-Guard) is a hard wearing, aftermarket, ceramic clear coat for superior resistance to scratching (9H)
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Clear coat can fill imperfections, opti coat can't. Therefore it's definitely not a clear coat.
 
KillaCam said:
Clear coat can fill imperfections, opti coat can't. Therefore it's definitely not a clear coat.
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Why can't it be a really, really thin clearcoat, one that is too thin to fill imperfections? That is Dr. G's resume, developing clearcoat paints. Maybe he thought outside the box and created a one-part, hand applied, super-thin clearcoat with even better properties than what he did when he worked at a paint company.
 
tdekany said:
What all other coating companies love is how OC is shoved in with other coatings. OC is a clear coat, not a nano sealant (aka coating). That is why OC will outlast the other ones.
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This makes sense but is the new Opti Gloss a clear coat or a sealant? That would be interesting to know.

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VP Mark said:
This makes sense but is the new Opti Gloss a clear coat or a sealant? That would be interesting to know.

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If it was a clear coat type product don't you think they would put more than a 2 year life on it?

With the life they are stating for the Opti-gloss or Gloss-Coat I would have to think that it wont be a clear coat type product.
 
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