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All too often, I have regretted not taking any before, during and after shots of my details because I always balk at buying a camera and find myself without a camera in-hand. I am asking any AG member, who knows their photography stuff, to recommend to a newbie what sort of camera to use, without breaking the bank, to help take pictures to post before and after shots.
Often, I have browsed the aisle at a local store and ultimately felt I was in over my head, and felt I would over-buy if I went into a camera shop.

I assume, some would love to help guide this topic in the proper direction, whereas others, will say I am making this harder than it needs to be. While I appreciate phone-camera shots, I feel we can do better, so why not give a chance to be educated properly on this subject.

Thank you in advance for your time and input.
 
i know there is a thread somewhere on here with detailed settings the detailer used accompanied by pics to demonstrate the quality. I'm sure someone knows otherwise just search photography and I'm sure you stumble on it
 

Thanks for the link. I just read it and can't tell if I'm encouraged or discouraged. The author seems to take photography just as serious as he does for detailing.
I can't afford to lend that sort of attention to photography and need it dummied-down a bit. I'm searching for a camera thats built so that a knuckle-draging caveman can take a solid shot.
 
There are as many answers there as there are cameras and car products. :D

Really all depends on your budget. Under $800 the Canon Rebel line is very good.
Given the choice, the Rebel T5i is an outstanding contender, and will last you for many years to come.

Comparison of 3 Canon Rebel cameras.
 
It sounds like you're looking for a good-to-great quality point-n-shoot camera and want to stay away from a DSLR with changeable lenses.

Google is your friend and here's a good starting point: Point and Shoot Camera Review 2014 | Best Point and Shoot Digital Camera - TopTenREVIEWS. Stick with the name brands & you'll be pleased with both ease-of-use and results.

I picked up a Panasonic LUMIX point-n-shoot for my GF & she couldn't be happier with the results she gets. Photography has been a hobby of mine for a few years & we frequently go shooting together.
 
NYG6coupe, excellent diagnosis; I believe you right. I appreciate everyone's input. Thank you very much.
 
Those photography articles were written by myself... Dslr photography can be a great hobby and pastime, but if you intend to set the camera to auto and leave it there, a DSLR will be wasted money compared to a nicer point and shoot.

Feel free to message me if you have any specific questions.

-Zach
 
My wife and I exemplify the extremes with regards to photography. I've owned SLRs since the film days, from Nikon FM2, FE2, F3HP, F4s, and D700. My wife has probably owned more point-and-shoots than I've owned SLRs. She likes the quality of the photos I come up with and she's never happy with her p&s shots but can't be bothered with the weight or the complexity that SLRs entail.

After about 25 years of this back and forth, we finally found the perfect camera for her. It looks like a p&s and can be used like a p&s but it produces high-quality shots. It's a Sony NEX 3. Its sensor is bigger than a p&s (higher quality in most cases), it's actually the same size as a Nikon DX format. But it comes in a body the size of most p&s. Highly recommended.
 
Not directed at the OP but as a professional photographer, I find it funny that people seek out the opinions of photographers, but basically just want a point and shoot. When it comes down to it, there's not much difference between point and shoots, so it makes no difference if you're asking a world renowned pro, or Joe Blow at best buy.

Ok, OP, if you don't want to go the dslr route, for whatever reason, whether it be price, or ease of use, then just get a decent point and shoot. But then again, today's smart phones can rival most point and shoots.

Figure out what's important to you and what you want out of the camera.
 
90% of my before/during/after and Facebook status update type pics are taken with my cell phone. Cool cars get the DSLR treatment.

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Can anyone polish a car to perfection, or even to 70% perfect, using the cheapest polisher available in the market and without any knowledge/experience in polishing?!

You need 2 things to take better photos:
1- learn how to take better photos.
2- better camera/gear.

How better or how far you need to go? Only you can decide based on your budget, time and your own standards for a good photo.
You don't have to go the DSLR route, lots of good compact (mirror less) cameras now available in the market, Fujifilm X series and Sony Nex cameras are very good for their size and price range.

My advice is to start with No. 1 above, learn and understand the basics first then start reading reviews on cameras and compare them to decide which one suits your needs & budget..

Feel free to ask any photography related questions..
 
I used to use my DSLR camera for all my detailing and found it to be very time consuming to mess with all the camera settings. I then purchased a new phone and now only use that for all my photos.

If I was on AT&T I would have gotten the Nokia Lumia 1020, but since I have Verizon I bought a Lumia Icon. 20MP camera. Takes amazing pictures and when I tell people they are from my phone they cant believe it.

Here is an example and a scaled down version. High Res is something like 3000x2500
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Fortunately megapixels have very little overall impact on the quality of a photo unless you are printing large prints. That is the biggest misleading spec on cameras these days... Anything over 10MP is completely fine.
 
Fortunately megapixels have very little overall impact on the quality of a photo unless you are printing large prints. That is the biggest misleading spec on cameras these days... Anything over 10MP is completely fine.

Yep. Well said. I'll even go as far to say too many megapixels crammed into a small sensor can be a negative.
 
Can anyone polish a car to perfection, or even to 70% perfect, using the cheapest polisher available in the market and without any knowledge/experience in polishing?!

You need 2 things to take better photos:
1- learn how to take better photos.
2- better camera/gear.

How better or how far you need to go? Only you can decide based on your budget, time and your own standards for a good photo.
You don't have to go the DSLR route, lots of good compact (mirror less) cameras now available in the market, Fujifilm X series and Sony Nex cameras are very good for their size and price range.

My advice is to start with No. 1 above, learn and understand the basics first then start reading reviews on cameras and compare them to decide which one suits your needs & budget..

Feel free to ask any photography related questions..
No thank you; I really, really don't like researching photography and cameras. It just seems to get too complicated too quickly accompanied with too wide of a range of prices. I wanted you guys to pick/suggest a camera for me and other members here. I thought this approach would leed to a good camera for taking pictures of paint, and not over-spending. I have the habit of buying stuff I don't really need. Sound familiar? I don't want a $1000 dollar camera, which is what I would buy if it were up to me walking into a camera shop.
I'm going to ask for this camera as a birthday gift, which is soon. I like everyone's input so far.
 
All too often, I have regretted not taking any before, during and after shots of my details because I always balk at buying a camera and find myself without a camera in-hand. I am asking any AG member, who knows their photography stuff, to recommend to a newbie what sort of camera to use, without breaking the bank, to help take pictures to post before and after shots.
Often, I have browsed the aisle at a local store and ultimately felt I was in over my head, and felt I would over-buy if I went into a camera shop.

I assume, some would love to help guide this topic in the proper direction, whereas others, will say I am making this harder than it needs to be. While I appreciate phone-camera shots, I feel we can do better, so why not give a chance to be educated properly on this subject.

Thank you in advance for your time and input.

Types of cameras



  • Point and shoot
  • SLR type/ High zoom
  • Digital SLRs
  • Phone Cameras
I’ll try to point of Pros and Cons of each category. I will not go into technical terms atm. It will only make things more complicated.

Pro of Point and Shoot Cameras

  • Cheap
  • Easy of use, just point and shoot the subject.
  • Shoots in compressed format. Example: JPEG

Cons

  • Quality of photos is limited.
  • Do not offer much control over photographs. (For average guy, this con doesn’t matter)
  • Lower performance in low light conditions (photography without flash).
  • Limited zoom
  • In comparison to phone camera, this is an extra luggage.


SLR type/ High Zoom.
1. High Zoom increases capabilities of the camera. This one feature even puts expensive DSLRs to shame.
2. Offers more control of photographs in comparison to Point and Shoot.

Cons
1. It is point and shoot, with extra zoom. Suffers from same cons of point and shoot.
2. They are bulky
3. Lot of battery life is wasted, when zoom comes out and goes back it.
4. Expensive than simple point and shoot

DSLR or Digital Single Lens Reflex
Pros
1. Offers more control over photographs. With this I mean, lets say you want to take photographs of stars. Point and shoot and High Zoom, their shutter can only remain open for 30 seconds. Where as DSLRs can open shutter for as long as their battery can hold on
2. Offers far better low light performance
3. High Quality photos.
4. Usually comes with better build quality (Canon 7D Mark II comes with weather seal and alloy body, this makes it pretty much a tank).
5. Processor are faster. So offers faster performance.

Cons of DSLRs
1. Expensive. Lower end or Entry level DSLRs cost slightly more than high zoom cameras.
2. Depend on lens. Good quality lens cost more than a camera.
3. Sometimes require special Memory cards. It keeps adding to cost.
4. Bulky and heavy. Body only weight can weight 800-900 grams.
5. Some DSLRs don’t come with flash.
6. Zoom is limited on lens used. High zoom lenses are expensive.

7. Require understanding of camera features.



Phone Cameras
Pros

  • Easy of use. Just take out, point and shoot.
  • Phone and camera are same. No extra luggage
  • Photos can be stored into phone’s memory or on a memory stick.
  • As new technology comes around, quality is getting better and better each passing day. These cameras are giving serious competition to point and shoot.
  • Phone’s cost includes camera cost. No added cost.

Cons

  • You cannot expect too much from a phone camera. It is a phone, camera is a secondary feature
  • Limited photography features.
  • Some cameras do not come with come with flash.


Conclusion: There is no camera that fit all requirements. Very first thing, you need to decide, what you want to shoot with it. Social photography, travel, wildlife, low light, day light or landscape? Try to find camera that meet your requirement. See which memory cards they use, make sure they are easily available. Like Sony use, their own cards and they cannot be use anywhere else. Something like SD cards can be used in various other devices. Once you have decided which camera to buy, go to sites like Amazon.com and dpreview.com and read reviews. User reviews help take inform decision. Website like Dpreview.com, have list of all the cameras in the market. Extensive reviews of each camera, test shots and user comments is available on the site.

Feel free to ask more questions or if you have doubts. I'll be more than happy to help. :)
 
No thank you; I really, really don't like researching photography and cameras. It just seems to get too complicated too quickly accompanied with too wide of a range of prices. I wanted you guys to pick/suggest a camera for me and other members here. I thought this approach would leed to a good camera for taking pictures of paint, and not over-spending. I have the habit of buying stuff I don't really need. Sound familiar? I don't want a $1000 dollar camera, which is what I would buy if it were up to me walking into a camera shop.
I'm going to ask for this camera as a birthday gift, which is soon. I like everyone's input so far.

There is almost no difference in image quality between modern top-tier smart phones (iPhone, Nexus, Galaxy, etc.) and inexpensive point and shoot cameras. The entire segment of "point and shoot" cameras is literally dying because everyone already has a "good enough" camera in their pocket at all times.

Based on your statements I would recommend just using your phone as your primary camera to document vehicles. Then you can ask for something cool like a new polisher for your b-day!!!
 
There is almost no difference in image quality between modern top-tier smart phones (iPhone, Nexus, Galaxy, etc.) and inexpensive point and shoot cameras. The entire segment of "point and shoot" cameras is literally dying because everyone already has a "good enough" camera in their pocket at all times.



Based on your statements I would recommend just using your phone as your primary camera to document vehicles. Then you can ask for something cool like a new polisher for your b-day!!!


^this!!! :)
 
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