tuf shine cracking on new tires

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I coated a brand new set of tires with tuf shine this week. I did not use their cleaner, I used my own. All the new tire "wax" was removed and the tires appeared to be 100% clean. I applied 4 coats to reach the desired level of gloss and allowed each coat to dry to the touch before adding the next (ten min in between maybe). When they were done, it looked unbelievable! However, if you put any pressure on the sidewall...the coating CRACKED. IT looks much like shattered glass. The tires were not touched for two days so cure time is not the issue. What happened?
 
Sounds like way to much product, and tires were not completly clean so it sat on top of it and did not adhere like it should... Need to clean the tires with the tuff shine cleaner I guess... Post som pics of the tires .
 
I don't think you must use their cleaner, any good APC should do the job and cleaning new tires is much easier..
I coated a new set of all terrain tires 3 weeks ago.. I used CG All Clean+ at 1:10 dilution to clean them sprayed each tire once and scrubbed with regular brush (not stiff bristled) then rinsed, APC foam was white after scrubbing so no need for further cleaning (I had to repeat the spray, scrub & rinse process 5 times when I was cleaning 4-5 months old tires before).
Then I put only 1 good coat using both the Tuf shine applicator and Carrand brush, here's how they looked after coating:
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Since then the Jeep has been washed 3 times and been to the sand dunes once (4 hours drive with tires deflated to 14psi then inflated back to 40psi after the off road trip) with no issues, coating still looks great..
I think you over applied it, IMO putting 4 coats is way too much and that could be the reason it's failing..
 
just speculative, but it's possible the new rubber is still outgassing from the manufacturing process. Keep in mind that new tire just got put under the stress of 35psi for extended periods of time for the first time on your car.

I don't know how long tires sit around in a warehouse before they are installed, but after firestone/bridgestone had that big debacle several years ago, they've tried to keep better control on how old the rubber is allowed to get, both pre and post production.
 
Very simple. If they cracked you didn't get them completely clean. Tuff shine tire cleaner is far more effective than any APC. Always follow the manufacturers instructions especially when dealing with coatings.
 
conquistador said:
Very simple. If they cracked you didn't get them completely clean. Tuff shine tire cleaner is far more effective than any APC. Always follow the manufacturers instructions especially when dealing with coatings.
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+1 I have Tuf shine on my truck for 4 months now and they still look great, with that said you need to use their tire cleaner. thats all there is to it. Tuf shine tire cleaner is the most effective tire cleaner I've ever used
 
I've also seen where people need to use TarX or Tarminator on brand new tires to completely remove the release mold. Then clean with APC or TS Tire Cleaner.

4 coats does sound like a little much. For multiple coats you might try applying the next coat before the previous coat completely dries and is still tacky so they can have a chance to bond together rather than sitting on top of each other. Just a thought.
 
aim4squirrels said:
just speculative, but it's possible the new rubber is still outgassing from the manufacturing process. Keep in mind that new tire just got put under the stress of 35psi for extended periods of time for the first time on your car.

I don't know how long tires sit around in a warehouse before they are installed, but after firestone/bridgestone had that big debacle several years ago, they've tried to keep better control on how old the rubber is allowed to get, both pre and post production.
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tires have not even been mounted on the wheels yet. I did a full opticoat coating on the wheels and did everything before they were mounted and put on the car

conquistador said:
Very simple. If they cracked you didn't get them completely clean. Tuff shine tire cleaner is far more effective than any APC. Always follow the manufacturers instructions especially when dealing with coatings.
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If its that simple, then why has the tuf shine coating lasted perfectly fine on my 3 year old tires? I coated them 6 weeks ago. no cracking and still looks like I just applied it.

what is the correct process for prepping a NEW tire for this. the tire cleaner is not the issue im afraid. its getting a NEW tire prepped for this (removing the wax coating) which im sure any heavy duty cleaners are more than capable of. I do admit I may have applied too much product.
 
bumpity, bump!

I plan on coating my new tires with Tuf Shine Tire Clear Coat before they are mounted on wheels.

Could it be possible that the pressure of filling the tire with air for the first time causes the coating to "crack" or other adverse reactions?

Perhaps I should mount, and pressurize them before coating?
 
spiralout462 said:
bumpity, bump!

I plan on coating my new tires with Tuf Shine Tire Clear Coat before they are mounted on wheels.

Could it be possible that the pressure of filling the tire with air for the first time causes the coating to "crack" or other adverse reactions?

Perhaps I should mount, and pressurize them before coating?
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Absolutely mount the tires first. As long as you get the tires surgically clean you will have no issues. Make sure you use Tuff Shine cleaner. The OP had issues because he did not follow the manufacture directions by not using the cleaner.
 
conquistador said:
Absolutely mount the tires first. As long as you get the tires surgically clean you will have no issues. Make sure you use Tuff Shine cleaner. The OP had issues because he did not follow the manufacture directions by not using the cleaner.
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Thanks. That does make more sense. I think I will mount and balance the tires, then coat them, then install them myself. I'm not going to let anyone with a wrench around my truck!
 
spiralout462 said:
Thanks. That does make more sense. I think I will mount and balance the tires, then coat them, then install them myself. I'm not going to let anyone with a wrench around my truck!
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Take pics of each wheel to document condition before you let anyone attempt to mount them
 
The OP (me) did not have issues from lack of using their tire cleaner. I just put it on too thick. Unless there is something special in the cleaner that aids in bonding, there's 100% no reason why you can't use any other tire cleaner, so long as the tire is clean. Its not like all of the sudden tuf shine came out with the world best or strongest tire cleaner... It's just a very good tire cleaner much like many others on the market.
 
Better to mount them first then clean and coat them coz they'll get dirty and maybe the counting will get some scuffs during mounting if coated first..
IME:
- Pressure will not affect the coating, I deflate my coated tires from 42psi to 12psi for off-roading and inflate them back to 42psi with no issues.
- Any good tire cleaner / APC will do the cleaning job, Tuf shine cleaner is great but if you have good APC, no need to buy another product.. Just make sure you clean them good till you get white foam when spraying cleaner and scrubbing.
 
Sherif said:
Better to mount them first then clean and coat them coz they'll get dirty and maybe the counting will get some scuffs during mounting if coated first..
IME:
- Pressure will not affect the coating, I deflate my coated tires from 42psi to 12psi for off-roading and inflate them back to 42psi with no issues.
- Any good tire cleaner / APC will do the cleaning job, Tuf shine cleaner is great but if you have good APC, no need to buy another product.. Just make sure you clean them good till you get white foam when spraying cleaner and scrubbing.
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Thanks for the reply!:xyxthumbs: I was curious.........
 
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