2015 Porsche 911 Turbo S: Drive a new car everyday | Ceramic Pro 9H Permanent Coating | XPEL Ultimate |

Nope, tested all self healing properties and usual test any PPF would endure. I think its safe to say XPEL holds up to a bit more extreme conditions than any nano-coating due its thickness. Any sort of warranty issue from the film can be covered through XPEL (warranty process), and if it is because of the nano coating (not likely since its microscopic) i would warranty it as well. (if warrantying is required)

Dont you?
 
KoshiL said:
Nope, tested all self healing properties and usual test any PPF would endure. I think its safe to say XPEL holds up to a bit more extreme conditions than any nano-coating due its thickness. Any sort of warranty issue from the film can be covered through XPEL (warranty process), and if it is because of the nano coating (not likely since its microscopic) i would warranty it as well. (if warrantying is required)

Dont you?
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You provide a warranty with Ceramic Pro 9H installations?

Can you post the verbiage, please?

I was asking if the 10 year warranty on the Xpel is voided due to not following the installation guidelines?

Can you please post the portion of the Xpel warranty that applies?

Interesting information. Looking forward to the reply.
 
Its all available on online.

Im going to abide by forums rules and not directly link products to the forum.

Yes i do provide warranty on installs, materials, and product if it is not to the customer's satisfaction. It wouldn't make sense to only cover portions of the product installation.
 
KoshiL said:
Its all available on online.

Im going to abide by forums rules and not directly link products to the forum.

Yes i do provide warranty on installs, materials, and product if it is not to the customer's satisfaction. It wouldn't make sense to only cover portions of the product installation.
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I cannot find any information on the Ceramic Pro 9H via a Google search

Can you cut & paste the information or PM me a link?
 
The reason we advise against installing paint protection film over products such as Opti-Coat and cQuartz is that they severely reduce the adhesion of the film to the paint. Based on the photos of the installation gel beading up on the surface of the Porsche hood, it is very clear that the paint's surface energy has been significantly lowered, meaning that this is the case with 9H as well.

The reduction in adhesion causes several problems. The most obvious is when the product lifts over time or especially when/if hit with high pressure water. The more troubling issue it causes is where the film simply doesn't do it's job of stopping stone hits. You see, the adhesive is an integral part of the protective nature of paint protection film. What I mean by that is the adhesive needs to be fully bonded to the paint to ensure that stone impacts do not distort the film past its maximum elongation. Anything that reduces the surface energy of the paint also reduces the adhesion. See the problem here?

Just to be sure everyone is clear, I am NOT saying there is anything wrong with applying a sealant such as these on TOP of the film. That is a completely different issue. Sealants such as these are completely fine for use on the film's clear coat and provide the same benefits to the film that they provide to a painted surface. My remarks above are only directed at the issue of applying the sealant to the paint BEFORE installation of the film.

Hope this helps.

Tim Hartt
Chief Operating Officer, Founder
XPEL Technologies Corp.
 
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The more troubling issue it causes is where the film simply doesn't do it's job of stopping stone hits. You see, the adhesive is an integral part of the protective nature of paint protection film. What I mean by that is the adhesive needs to be fully bonded to the paint to ensure that stone impacts do not distort the film past its maximum elongation. Anything that reduces the surface energy of the paint also reduces the adhesion. See the problem here?
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wow, yeah that's a crucial bit of info you are providing. thanks for coming in to clear that up as it's a question a lot of people seem to have.
 
Great explanation Mr. Hart

Thank you for chiming in with your expert opinion

If a painted surface has a "coating" on it, the best practice is probably to remove the coating via abrasive polishing to ensure proper bonding
 
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Another reason I love this forum. Great info and knowledge to be gained.
 
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